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#1 ave1 OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:12 PM

Here's a presentation of my latest adapter discovery for the 5200. In it I discuss bohoki's PC to 5200 adapter as well as some of the unsuccessful attempts by a couple different 5200 forum members here on Atariage in the early 2000s to get Playstation to 5200 controller adapters manufactured. Enjoy:

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Posted Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:50 PM

That Namco shirt looks staff issued, did you work for them at some point?



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Posted Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:58 AM

That Namco shirt looks staff issued, did you work for them at some point?


No, I bought it in September at a toy and video game show in central Ohio (from my buddy and fellow Columbus Atari fan, Gary Carnucci).

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Posted Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:01 PM

Thanks for posting this Steve.



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Posted Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:41 PM

I was pretty astounded that it worked!

 

I was playing my 5200 earlier today with a PS2 Hyperkin controller, and I noticed something.  On Galaxian, after losing a life the red light on the adapter goes out until your ship reappears on the screen (and at that point it lights back up again).  Then I have to press the center analog button so the left thumbstick is able to be used again. 

 

This was not happening in other games I had tried, so that's kinda interesting. 

 

Good to be hearing from you, David. :)


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Posted Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:30 PM

I was pretty astounded that it worked!

 

I was playing my 5200 earlier today with a PS2 Hyperkin controller, and I noticed something.  On Galaxian, after losing a life the red light on the adapter goes out until your ship reappears on the screen (and at that point it lights back up again).  Then I have to press the center analog button so the left thumbstick is able to be used again. 

 

This was not happening in other games I had tried, so that's kinda interesting.

 

Thanks for heads up, just ordered that same Innovation PSX/N64 to 15 pin Gameport adapter; an uncommon item.

 

I bought a pair of the PC to 5200 adapters you mentioned here on Atari Age a while back. Bohoki was clearing out older stiff wire versions. Ordered a couple miniature Arcade buttons for the start button, connector holders and a project box. Maybe might put it together this weekend.

 

15 pin Gameport PC to 5200 adapters - http://atariage.com/...s/#entry3821602

 

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Edited by CRTGAMER, Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:37 PM.


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Posted Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:43 AM

I thought about doing a project box - but I've got about 15 other things that are calling me, so it'll have to wait.  

 

Glad you hear you ordered the Playstation to PC adapter.  They will eventually be quite hard to find...



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Posted Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:25 PM

Nice.  I got playstation 1 gey controllers thumbstick working on pacman and few others.  Great for pole position.  But the playstation ultra racer controller with big round knob does not work like it should or with analog for that matter.  And got a NES Beeshu Zoomer flight stick working on pole position also.  Not the smoothest but works.


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Posted Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:02 AM

There are now 3 ways to get the Playstation controllers working on the 5200. The 1st two only let the Playstation thumbstick work like a digital d-pad, and don't get the PS1 Ultraracer/NeGcon/steering wheels working at all. The third option offers full analog compatibility (thumbsticks are analog on the Dual Shock and N64 controllers, and the PS1 racing controllers are compatible). It also works well for controlling the digital games like Pac-man.

1) Plug in two adapters together: Tototek Playstation to Genesis/Megadrive controller adapter and the Masterplay Clone (made by Atariguy1021 here at Atariage). This gives two button- not just one- compatibility. My fifth Wired-Up Retro YouTube video shows how to do this in detail.

2) I believe you can still get a Playstation to Atari controller adapter off the "Kipper2k" website that can be plugged into the Masterplay Clone. With these two adapters plugged in together you should get digital control. I haven't tried it myself, but it is likely to work. I think this may only give one button compatibility.

3) Plug in the Innovation Smart Joy Emulator Adapter (Playstation and N64 to PC 15 pin controller adapter) into The PC 15 pin to Atari 5200 controller adapter (made by bohoki here at Atariage). This gives full analog controls and two button support in the 5200 games as well as nice d-pad control in the digital games like Pac-man. This is the best option.

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Posted Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:44 AM

I have the tototek adapter.

 

I am uploading my take as we speak.  Will post soon.


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Posted Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:21 AM

 

I used a playstation controller, nes controller, and beeshu zoomer  flight stick.


Edited by 0078265317, Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:28 AM.


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Posted Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:52 PM

i am envious of your amount of space to play video games



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Posted Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:16 PM

That is nothing.  My frineds have twice as big house.



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Posted Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:46 PM

It is really a pretty big space... and it's good to see you are still enjoying your 5200 with the NES controller.  I definitely like playing the games with all the compatible NES controllers, just like you do.  Lots of fun.



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Posted Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:30 PM

Playstation works also with tototek adapter.  And the zoomer is great almost like a stearing wheel.  Except once in a while after playing for a while it heats up and the colors go funky as seen at 17 minutes and 53 seconds to 18 minutes and 11 seconds.


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Posted Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:44 PM

Is my Atari going bad?  Color changing is not normal.



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Posted Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:16 PM

Is my Atari going bad?  Color changing is not normal.

If that's not the game itself changing to preprogrammed "screen-saver" colors, then I suppose there might be something wrong with your 5200.  Not sure whether Pac-Man has the screen saver feature or not. . .

 

I have a quick question on the Zoomer flight yoke. Is there a way to tell if it's giving analog driving in Pole Position or basic digital steering?  I couldn't tell in the video...



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Posted Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:53 PM

All nes controllers are digigtal are they not?  And as for the colors ZYLON repaired my unit.  And it was fine but shortly after that I complained of the same effect in jungle hunt.  He said probably a little dusty or just the game as you said.



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Posted Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:01 AM

Okay, that makes sense.

Regarding analog on NES, there is an Arkanoid paddle that's truly analog. Kinda wondering if the Zoomer also has true analog...

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Posted Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:36 AM

:_( Sadly, my 5200 gets very little use (none in the past 3 months).  My original joystick just plain SUCKS!  The Masterplay Clone looks interesting to me as it would would with my Wico Ball, but me being a tad of a cheapskate and the 5200 not being my primary system, I don't want to spend more on an adapter than I did on the 5200 itself with all the cartridges combined.  



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Posted Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:02 PM

Okay, that makes sense.

Regarding analog on NES, there is an Arkanoid paddle that's truly analog. Kinda wondering if the Zoomer also has true analog...

 

That is what he said.  But could still be going bad.  I mean before it was just snow and no picture so he fixed something.  But not sire why the colors are changing.  Somebody else here had a similar issue once if I remember.



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Posted Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:38 PM

Here was one thread on similar issue.

 

http://atariage.com/...00-color-shift/



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Posted Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:30 AM

Here was one thread on similar issue.

 

http://atariage.com/...00-color-shift/

 

This thread mentions joust game as green landings to start with and then becomes brown after 5 minutes.  I just got a copy of joust yesterday in the mail from amazon and same thing.  Thr ground is brown.  But the rest is green.  Except after 2 or 3 minutes does not change to brown.







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