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#1 Tempest OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Nov 8, 2017 9:47 AM

What's the status of the Incognito v2?  Is there a projected release date?



#2 slx OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Nov 8, 2017 12:58 PM

Lotharek does not seem to be in the habit of publishing estimated release dates, so just set a web alert on his page  and wait for happy news ;)



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Posted Wed Nov 8, 2017 2:11 PM

Only been waiting eight months for my developer's prototype, but I'm starting to think it was never posted.



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Posted Wed Nov 8, 2017 2:23 PM

I'd be happy with the first incognito re issued with the memory glitch fixed...

I keep missing the package deals and specials..or offerings completely... my absences always coincide with all the tasty good stuff....


Edited by _The Doctor__, Wed Nov 8, 2017 2:25 PM.


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Posted Wed Nov 8, 2017 3:13 PM

Only been waiting eight months for my developer's prototype, but I'm starting to think it was never posted.

 

Such a missed chance....



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Posted Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:39 AM

I'd be happy with the first incognito re issued with the memory glitch fixed...

 

Hi.  What's this memory glitch?  Oh no!



#7 flashjazzcat ONLINE  

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Posted Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:54 AM

 

Hi.  What's this memory glitch?  Oh no!

 

The cartridge control area at $D5xx is "write-thru" and hits the IORAM (memory reserved for use by the BIOS and PBI HDD driver) which shares the same address space. This means - for instance - that SpartaDOS X can take a hard disk partition off-line simply by writing to its own cartridge banking register. The partial fix was to simply move critical data out of this RAM region, but but it's hardly ideal and other cartridge types have the potential to cause troubles. Told Candle about it many months ago but I haven't heard from him since March or thereabouts, so presumably there's no interest in fixing it.



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Posted Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:37 AM

Fixing it would be awesome, in fact all the people who stumble on it are very interested in having it fixed....If there were a reason or some way to exploit the glitch I would suggest making it a toggle and allow both modes of operation if possible with modification(within the cpld? or other method?). The reason why I say that is in keeping with seeing what a thing can do approach to the Atari, great things can come from happy accidents or planned uses that sometimes get forgotten.


Edited by _The Doctor__, Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:39 AM.


#9 flashjazzcat ONLINE  

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Posted Sun Nov 12, 2017 1:32 PM

...I would suggest making it a toggle and allow both modes of operation if possible with modification(within the cpld? or other method?). The reason why I say that is in keeping with seeing what a thing can do approach to the Atari, great things can come from happy accidents or planned uses that sometimes get forgotten.


No, it just needs fixed. Nothing good can come out of this unintended behavior, believe me. The RAM is supposed to be completely invisible to the OS unless the PBI device is selected. That said, I never heard any complaint regarding adverse side-effects of the bug since the workaround was implemented.

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Posted Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:56 PM

Only been waiting eight months for my developer's prototype, but I'm starting to think it was never posted.

 

 

Well, that is going to be fun, when it turns out that the new version of incognito will not run your awesome alternate bios, and people start to complain about that. 

 

Your alternative BIOS is considered as the first and only suitable BIOS, so in case someone involved in the project reads this: don't miss that boat please.


Edited by ProWizard, Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:57 PM.


#11 mytek OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:19 PM

Your alternative BIOS is considered as the first and only suitable BIOS, so in case someone involved in the project reads this: don't miss that boat please.

 

I second that  :thumbsup: .

 

But do keep in mind that missing the boat isn't through any fault of Jon's ;) .

 

- Michael



#12 mimo OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:15 AM

I could be tempted to sell my original Incognito if there is any interest 



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Posted Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:19 AM

I could be tempted to sell my original Incognito if there is any interest 

 

I would be interested in your incognito



#14 AtariGeezer OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:11 AM

Since the incognito's are going for $200 - $250 on ebay,  I might have to sell my spare as my motorcycle needs new tires soon...



#15 mytek OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:55 PM

Since the incognito's are going for $200 - $250 on ebay,  I might have to sell my spare as my motorcycle needs new tires soon...

 

You might regret that when the tires wear out once again, which they inevitably will. Whereas the Incognito's value will continue to increase, and is always usable by simply picking up a 2nd 800 to install it in.

 

But with that said, enjoy the motorcycle with it's fresh set of tires  :) .



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Posted Mon Aug 20, 2018 5:44 PM

 

You might regret that when the tires wear out once again, which they inevitably will. Whereas the Incognito's value will continue to increase, and is always usable by simply picking up a 2nd 800 to install it in.

 

But with that said, enjoy the motorcycle with it's fresh set of tires  :) .

That's why I use  the qualifier "Might" :)  It would be very hard to part with...



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Posted Mon Aug 20, 2018 5:46 PM

I misplaced mine, need another Incognito as I am doing development work on PLATOTerm.

 

-Thom



#18 ebiguy OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Aug 21, 2018 12:11 AM

Anyone knows what are the features of this new Incognito ?

What are the differences compared to the v1 ?



#19 slx OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:21 AM

Anyone knows what are the features of this new Incognito ?
What are the differences compared to the v1 ?


SD instead of CF for storage AFAIK.


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Posted Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:49 PM

CF cards last so much longer, I wish they'd consider not changing it,

 

I mean a CF-SD adapter costs less than 10 dollars and occupies the same space....

 

Unless some super great additions are being added just fix the known errors and start churning them out full steam!


Edited by _The Doctor__, Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:49 PM.


#21 Faicuai OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:24 PM

CF cards last so much longer, I wish they'd consider not changing it,
 
I mean a CF-SD adapter costs less than 10 dollars and occupies the same space....
 
Unless some super great additions are being added just fix the known errors and start churning them out full steam!


Dead-on !!!

These shit-crap SD cards fall apart rather quickly, either on the read / write lock tab (whic just falls off) or the actual plastic tab that separate front-end connectors (they just brake).

Incognito DOES NOT need SD_card support, CF-cards are much sturdier, support a very long insert-extraction life-cycle and have all the assets to surpass SD cards capacity by a really large margin (not that it matters too much for 8bit SW, though).

Incognito meeds CARTDRIDGE-banking emulation support (to load any .car or rom image), more flash-rom space for holding entire SDX image + GUI, pin-header for enabling / disabling external add-ons and a pre-configured Cable-ribbon adapter to hook up legacy stuff to its PBI port, presto At least, that would be a start....




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