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Wonder if Pentium-IV systems will ever be popular again?


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#26 Keatah ONLINE  

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Posted Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:45 AM

Old CS1 explanation is good. What we're dealing with are basically brand names and parts binning.

 

Since the difference in microprocessors is usually hard-coded and fact-based, wikipedia does a good job explaining the differences. Celerons typically have less cache, and some features disabled on purposes to create a low-end market, or, rather, not to disturb the high-end market. In other words, give a reason to have a high-priced product. Celerons may have things like turbo-boost, and AES, hyperthreading, VT-d, and more, deactivated. Slower bus.. The transistors are there, but turned off. And today's Pentium bears little resemblance to the Pentium 60 and 66 from back in the day.

 

Intel has main 5 tiers of X86 today:

https://en.wikipedia...wiki/Intel_Atom

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celeron

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium

https://en.wikipedia...wiki/Intel_Core

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xeon

 

..ranging from lowest to highest in performance. And things to consider when shopping aren't all that different from the old days. Clock speed, cache, # of cores, special instruction sets like MMX, and integrated graphics.

 

My P3 rig is really a P-III Celeron, 1400MHz with 256K L2 cache and 32K L1 cache, 100MHz bus.

If it were a "real" P3 it would have a 512K cache and a 133MHz bus.

 

I specifically chose that to keep with the 100MHz BX chipset bus and overall system + memory stability. It was the right choice.



#27 JBerel ONLINE  

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Posted Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:07 PM

This is really simple. Look at it this way....If you need that extra push over the cliff, what do you do? Say you're on 6 on your computer. Where can you go from there? You put it at 7. Exactly. One better.

 

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#28 OLD CS1 OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:45 PM

I totally dig the "Ataribox" setting on that rig, though I think it might be an optimistically high setting.



#29 Flojomojo OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:59 PM

Poor AMD. AtariBox™ is going to be the final nail in their coffin!

#30 Serguei2 OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:19 PM

One day, my Sony Vaio will become a retro computer.



#31 save2600 OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:48 PM

One day, my Sony Vaio will become a retro computer.


And yet, at the same time... nobody will care. :lol:

 

 

Spoiler

 



#32 Serguei2 OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:23 PM

Seriously. Pentium IV is not so memorable because ...

 

- The graphic looks the same like today.computers

 

- Most all games can also run on newest computers, unless they won't run on win 10.

 

- The audio is almost the same as newest computers.

 

Unlike 1980s computers, you can't tell which computer is used from screenshots.


Edited by Serguei2, Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:12 PM.


#33 Keatah ONLINE  

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Posted Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:53 AM

One day, my Sony Vaio will become a retro computer.

 

And one day it may become useful again for basic tasks and its ability to work off-line.



#34 Keatah ONLINE  

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Posted Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:54 AM

Unlike 1980s computers, you can't tell which computer is used from screenshots.

 

..because resolution and color depth and standardization.






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