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#26 Greg2600 OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Dec 7, 2017 9:08 AM

In a full room setting, 27 inch is the smallest IMO.  The smaller ones are for a desk.



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Posted Thu Dec 7, 2017 5:09 PM

 

:roll:

 

Yeah, that's baloney.  There's arcade machines from the early to mid 90's with still functioning monitors.  Especially some of the Japanese stuff with Nanao and Toei brand monitors.  They can still look new, and they saw tremendous duty cycles every day.  not just 20-30 hours per week.



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Posted Thu Dec 7, 2017 5:23 PM

I'm working on eventually setting up the game/classic computer room with each system on its own TV.  That means 13", of course.  Fortunately, JVC makes an excellent one that takes NTSC and PAL and is 13" and has S-video!  (Thanks, Bryan!!).  So I don't mind a small screen; the old pixels look finer on a small screen, anyway.  Not to mention, a 13" color TV strictly for Atari use in my childhood bedroom was like a new crown jewel, so I'll always have a sweet spot in my heart for a quality 13" color CRT.  The JVC is amongst the best.

 

But up to about 20" is fine for me, unless: (1) You are sitting a long way from the set, OR (2) you are playing light gun games.

 

My 35" Trinitron (must be 200lb) finally died (suspect "flyback" doo-hickie upon Google "research" but don't know), and I am NOT going to get another.  I'm getting too old to move this shit.  I'd had it in the same spot for years, and I was a stronger man when I put it there.  I nearly killed myself in the process of its disposal.  I still have a 32" Sony Wega (it does not move often!) that I can use for light gun games, but I don't play those much anymore (who does?).  From now on, I'm not even going to TRY to pick up any CRT TV greater than 27" set, as Duck Hunt and Hoagan's Alley (etc) play pretty well on a 27"..  As an aside: WHY ARE SONY CRT SETS SO MUCH HEAVIER THAN ANY OTHER BRAND (of the same size)?  You'll even notice this on the smaller sets!

 

But to each his own.  I do like the smaller sets, for both light weight and the nostalgia.



#29 Gabriel OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Dec 7, 2017 8:19 PM

Ideally, I'd want a 25" or 27" CRT for things up to the NES era.  I played on a 25" during my childhood. 



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Posted Fri Dec 8, 2017 12:40 AM

 

:roll:

 

I guess you've had better luck with the tubes in your CRTs than I've had with the ones in mine.  :ponder:



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Posted Fri Dec 8, 2017 4:59 AM

 

Yeah, that's baloney.  There's arcade machines from the early to mid 90's with still functioning monitors.  Especially some of the Japanese stuff with Nanao and Toei brand monitors.  They can still look new, and they saw tremendous duty cycles every day.  not just 20-30 hours per week.

 

90's? I have functioning CRT's from the 70's.



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Posted Fri Dec 8, 2017 5:35 AM

Well, 90-00 CRTs have really cheap parts. Likely the tubes are fine, but the tuner goes out.

I got TVs from the 70s and 80s that are fine, but most my stuff from the 90s crapped out in a few years.

Monitors are a different beast, as they typically don't have tuners anyways, especially arcade cabs.

Just to bad so few want to learn to fix the things, and fewer want to share the knowledge of how. I've asked, and the typical response is usually something to the extent of "you shouldn't" or "blah blah flyback capacitor, and you'll kill yourself" really? I'd assume someone smart enough to ask at least has some base knowledge and tools. Sounds a lot more like "I don't know, but want to sound like I do" to me.

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Posted Fri Dec 8, 2017 11:40 AM

13-20" is the ideal IMO, that's what 8/16-bit developers were designing their games for. Text boxes in Final Fantasy don't take up half the screen because kids had bad eyesight in the 80s.



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Posted Fri Dec 8, 2017 12:07 PM

13-20" is the ideal IMO, that's what 8/16-bit developers were designing their games for. Text boxes in Final Fantasy don't take up half the screen because kids had bad eyesight in the 80s.

 

 

That's too big.  What you really need is an 8" PVM. 



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Posted Fri Dec 8, 2017 12:27 PM

I have one of the last CRT that were on sale in my neck of the wood, an Ascent 23" that I've bought at Zellers in 2005 as an upstair TV for watching the news or general TV while eating supper... It has Components/S-Video/Composite/75ohms/Antena input and still works great for classic console except, supposedly, for Lightguns since it's a flat screen tube. It's way to big to be use as a monitor for my classic computers though.

 

I still use my old A1080 for those. I would like to use my new LCD 19" HP monitors but none of the cheap upconverter (rgb & hdmi) that I bought give me a usable picture on them. I also have a quite dirty 1702 that I got with an equally dirty and bad shape C64 that I'm bringing back to life. 

 

The 1702 as a non-functional front composite input and its chroma/luma input are so oxidized that they barely take the signals in. The tube seems in good shape though so I may be able to bring it back to full fonctionnality after I finish with the C64 (I'm waiting for the cap for it from digikey).



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Posted Fri Dec 8, 2017 12:32 PM

What do you think is the best size CRT TV for playing pre nes games ? if you didn't own one and wanted to purchase one what size would you buy ?

 

This is an question that can only be answered by the person using it.  There are just too many factors to account for to choose "the best size".

 

1 - How far are you going to be from the monitor?

2 - How much room do you have to devote to a CRT based TV set?

 

But then I think of these things as well...

 

3 - How much money will the old tank cost?

4 - These things are getting older, will you be able to get it repaired if it stops working (affordably)?

5 - Is the cost to benefit ratio really worth the hassle?  Time playing games divided by hassle & expense.

 

To me the answer is NO SIZE.



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Posted Fri Dec 8, 2017 12:40 PM

 

This is an question that can only be answered by the person using it.  

 

Jim doesn't do answers, only questions.



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Posted Fri Dec 8, 2017 9:22 PM

BTW what was the largest crt ever made back then?  How many inches?



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Posted Sat Dec 9, 2017 12:55 AM

BTW what was the largest crt ever made back then?  How many inches?

 

 

 

I don't know what the ABSOLUTE biggest was, but I had a friend about 10 years ago who had one of these big 40" Sony Trinitron badass bastards......

 

Trinintron XBR800.jpg

 

https://docs.sony.com/release/specs/KV40XBR800spec.pdf

 

It was absolutely, positively, the HOWITZER of the outgoing CRT era.  It did 1080i  (I remember playing PS2 Gran Turismo 4 in pseudo 1080i on it) and it had a built-in subwoofer that would shake the wall boards.

 

(1) It cost $3500+, 10 years ago.

(2) It weighs in at a svelte 300 lbs (!!!)

(3) I'm too old to struggle with stuff like this now

(4) The stuff is too old now and the caps are probably all ready to blow, even if you found a working one.

 

I used to think about looking on those Craiglist search engines (they used to be on there!) and hitching up the covered cargo trailer and taking a road trip to get one.  NOT ANYMORE!  But I really did want to do this, at one time.

 

In my opinion, it was the end-all-be-all large CRT television!    Whew, it was nice, right before the other technologies took over.  In a day when you can get a 55-inch 4K LED-backlit LCD for $299 on Walmart Black Friday, it is hard to think about the end of the CRT and the semi-shit that came in between.

 

Remember the rear-projection crap with the plastic screens?   Remember the "DLP" (digital light processing or something) with the $250 bulb that would go out?   And then there's the plasma, and I can't remember what happened to those, but they kind of slowly faded.  I can't remember the disadvantage, because I never knew anybody that had one.

 

I But the KV40XBR800 is the biggest of the end of an era.  Just make sure you have about 4 NFL Linebacker friends to help you load/unload and move it!



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Posted Sat Dec 9, 2017 2:24 AM

Good topic, recently I have been using a larger lcd and my games are not as fun as with my smaller 13in crt. I'm thinking 19 in might be the sweet spot.

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Posted Sat Dec 9, 2017 5:57 AM

I don't know what the ABSOLUTE biggest was, but I had a friend about 10 years ago who had one of these big 40" Sony Trinitron badass bastards......
 
attachicon.gifTrinintron XBR800.jpg
 
https://docs.sony.com/release/specs/KV40XBR800spec.pdf
 
It was absolutely, positively, the HOWITZER of the outgoing CRT era.  It did 1080i  (I remember playing PS2 Gran Turismo 4 in pseudo 1080i on it) and it had a built-in subwoofer that would shake the wall boards.
 
(1) It cost $3500+, 10 years ago.
(2) It weighs in at a svelte 300 lbs (!!!)
(3) I'm too old to struggle with stuff like this now
(4) The stuff is too old now and the caps are probably all ready to blow, even if you found a working one.
 
I used to think about looking on those Craiglist search engines (they used to be on there!) and hitching up the covered cargo trailer and taking a road trip to get one.  NOT ANYMORE!  But I really did want to do this, at one time.
 
In my opinion, it was the end-all-be-all large CRT television!    Whew, it was nice, right before the other technologies took over.  In a day when you can get a 55-inch 4K LED-backlit LCD for $299 on Walmart Black Friday, it is hard to think about the end of the CRT and the semi-shit that came in between.
 
Remember the rear-projection crap with the plastic screens?   Remember the "DLP" (digital light processing or something) with the $250 bulb that would go out?   And then there's the plasma, and I can't remember what happened to those, but they kind of slowly faded.  I can't remember the disadvantage, because I never knew anybody that had one.
 
I But the KV40XBR800 is the biggest of the end of an era.  Just make sure you have about 4 NFL Linebacker friends to help you load/unload and move it!


40" was about the max that could fit in a normal door frame, depth wise. Even my old Panasonic Gao 36" would leave me about 1/2" on each side when going through the door while moving. We even had to pass it througn a window once because the front door of my apartement was non standard...




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