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#1 BeeryMiller OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jan 6, 2018 7:17 AM

I was just going through some old newsletters and found some comments I posted on TI-ECHO back in 1994 with the response of others.  All I can say is wow, was I ever wrong.

 

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#2 BeeryMiller OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jan 6, 2018 7:18 AM

This is from the OTIUG Newsletter.



#3 Ksarul OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jan 6, 2018 8:40 AM

What is also interesting is that all of the folks in that post are part of the community--over 20 years later!  :)



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Posted Sat Jan 6, 2018 11:55 AM

Ah yes, I recall that period of time, and the proverbial 'last straw' that elicited a good portion of my rant.  I'm glad the predictions were wrong among other things ;)


Edited by InsaneMultitasker, Sat Jan 6, 2018 11:59 AM.


#5 OLD CS1 OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jan 6, 2018 11:58 AM

Were you working for Gartner in the 90s?  They have predicted the death of the desktop computer every year. :)



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Posted Sat Jan 6, 2018 3:49 PM

This is from the OTIUG Newsletter.

 

Oh god, that was me that put that together. I'm so sorry!



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Posted Sat Jan 6, 2018 7:18 PM

 

Oh god, that was me that put that together. I'm so sorry!

 

No issue.  I'm a bit surprised I wrote such a note at the time.  I was just looking at some newsletters that were in jpg format on whtech and clicked one, and there I was.

 

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Posted Sun Jan 7, 2018 4:28 PM

If you all knew what I am talking sometimes, you would panic-stricken run away. Screaming out loud. :-D :-D :-D



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Posted Sun Jan 7, 2018 7:53 PM

awesome.... 

 

23 years later....



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Posted Mon Jan 8, 2018 7:41 AM

Interesting to see Tim's comments on feeling unappreciated for software work, in light of the recent meltdown and exile of a new member who didn't find responses to his liking.  I remember reading a letter to the editor of MICROpendium in the early 90s from a programmer, lamenting his slow sales, and angrily pointing out that the community would have to depend on "freeware from retirees" from here on in.

 

It's been thus for quite a while - when the user base is this small and diverse, you'd better be doing what you do for its own sake, and your own jollies, because that's all you're guaranteed.

 

As for the rest, I don't think anyone can blame a "psychic" for not seeing how accessible the internet was about to become, and how much that was gonna change our lives.  :) 



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Posted Mon Jan 8, 2018 8:15 AM

It's been thus for quite a while - when the user base is this small and diverse, you'd better be doing what you do for its own sake, and your own jollies, because that's all you're guaranteed.

 

Exactly. This is how I designed TIImageTool - it is intended as a tool that, in the first place, is helpful for me and contains all features I deem to be useful. I just once diverted from this path by adding CF7 compatibility, even though I do not have any CF7, and in the end I got the impression that the additional work did not really pay off because only few people using TIMT would also use it for CF7.

 

I think the same view applies for the overall MAME project as well, even though the user base is much bigger (in particular for the arcade part).



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Posted Mon Jan 8, 2018 8:35 AM

As for the rest, I don't think anyone can blame a "psychic" for not seeing how accessible the internet was about to become, and how much that was gonna change our lives.  :)

 

I was concerned.  At the point the Internet was becoming commercially available I had been on-line for about six years or so.  I told my best friend at the time, "we're just not ready as a society for these kinds of mass connections."



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Posted Mon Jan 8, 2018 9:22 AM

 

 "we're just not ready as a society for these kinds of mass connections."

I believe this is true - even today - but more-so over how those connections have been implemented under certain services. (Social Media)



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Posted Mon Jan 8, 2018 9:49 AM

 

Oh god, that was me that put that together. I'm so sorry!

 

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Posted Mon Jan 8, 2018 10:38 AM

Interesting to see Tim's comments on feeling unappreciated for software work, in light of the recent meltdown and exile of a new member who didn't find responses to his liking.  I remember reading a letter to the editor of MICROpendium in the early 90s from a programmer, lamenting his slow sales, and angrily pointing out that the community would have to depend on "freeware from retirees" from here on in.

 

It's been thus for quite a while - when the user base is this small and diverse, you'd better be doing what you do for its own sake, and your own jollies, because that's all you're guaranteed.

 

As for the rest, I don't think anyone can blame a "psychic" for not seeing how accessible the internet was about to become, and how much that was gonna change our lives.  :)

 

I think just about everyone has a mini meltdown or such every once in a while.  I had some stuff going on a few years ago in my life (illness, moving twice in six months, etc) that caused a short term meltdown.  Ksarul talked some sense into me, though :)    Just tells me folks here are human, and we need affirmation, and being here for each other for those that they've known for quite a long time is almost part of the job description.  About the new member that abruptly left, I can't even begin to speculate what they might have going on in their life.



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Posted Mon Jan 8, 2018 11:04 AM

Interesting to see Tim's comments on feeling unappreciated for software work, in light of the recent meltdown and exile of a new member who didn't find responses to his liking.  I remember reading a letter to the editor of MICROpendium in the early 90s from a programmer, lamenting his slow sales, and angrily pointing out that the community would have to depend on "freeware from retirees" from here on in.

 

It's been thus for quite a while - when the user base is this small and diverse, you'd better be doing what you do for its own sake, and your own jollies, because that's all you're guaranteed.

 

As for the rest, I don't think anyone can blame a "psychic" for not seeing how accessible the internet was about to become, and how much that was gonna change our lives.  :)

 

With the vintage computing hobby, you should definitely have a large amount of motivation on your own to do things. Positive feedback from anywhere will be elusive and rare.

 

What's fun (sort of) is how more than half my co-workers are younger than some of the computer magazines I own. Oi. ;) #GetOffMyLawn #InMyDayWeHad4KandLikedIt!



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Posted Mon Jan 8, 2018 11:34 AM

Yeah, many of the people I work with could biologically be my kids.  It's strange talking to people who have no concept of the internet before social media, computers before PC and Mac, music and games as physical media, etc.  I try to stay open minded but I definitely feel that old guy's temptation to just burrow into my nest of familiar stuff and let the rest of the world go by.  



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Posted Mon Jan 8, 2018 3:28 PM

lol, as probably one of the youngest (I'll be 40 this year), i always try to keep it in check.  :)

 

i really want to be more involved on a technical level with the TI hobby, but it just isn't in the cards for me right now.  I will still continue to be a cheerleader, tho!



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Posted Mon Jan 8, 2018 7:36 PM

Interesting to see Tim's comments on feeling unappreciated for software work, in light of the recent meltdown and exile of a new member who didn't find responses to his liking.  I remember reading a letter to the editor of MICROpendium in the early 90s from a programmer, lamenting his slow sales, and angrily pointing out that the community would have to depend on "freeware from retirees" from here on in.

 

It's been thus for quite a while - when the user base is this small and diverse, you'd better be doing what you do for its own sake, and your own jollies, because that's all you're guaranteed.

 

As for the rest, I don't think anyone can blame a "psychic" for not seeing how accessible the internet was about to become, and how much that was gonna change our lives.  :)

Context is everything.  I don't feel that the historical snips give a good sense of situation back then.  IMHO, the recent meltdown and exile has little in common with the past.   Users had abandoned ship for the PC and other venues.  Hardware and software sales had slowed considerably, the repair situation was in dire shape, people whose livelihood was linked to the TI were either feeling a lot of pressure from those that remained or were threatening to leave.  What I and many others did for fun was under assault by the consumers who didn't understand (or didn't care to understand) that this was our hobby, too.

 

Thankfully, 20+ years later the ugliness has disappeared and has been replaced by the desire to learn, have fun, and make social connections with people interested in the TI as a vintage hobby.   The current resurgence is pushing the Ti capability envelope without the pressures that existed back then.  It is a good time to enjoy the hobby.



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Posted Mon Jan 8, 2018 7:57 PM

I look at a lot of those predictions in a similar light as you akin to, what was at the time, the looming Y2K apocalypse that was not so because people took action to prevent it.



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Posted Mon Jan 8, 2018 10:42 PM

:-)

 

(And yes, you can buy them on redbubble).

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