discgolfer72 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 just picked up a new apple //c and I have to use the command (open apple +control+reset) to get a floppy disk to load up I seem to remember that my old one (sold it 3 years ago) as soon as I would power it on it would boot the disk as long as one was in the drive is it some setting I'm missing or am I looking at the unit failing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 What does it do when you DON'T do those commands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discgolfer72 Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 What does it do when you DON'T do those commands? turns on get the beep and boots to black screen with dos or basic didn't look to close I'm at my shop now and didn't spend much time with it this morning before I left showed no disk activity at all until I used command Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discgolfer72 Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 ok home now it boots and looks like its got prodos on boot after trying a few more floppy discs ones that look legit(not hand written label's) boot auto on power up anything that's on a bootleg (hand written label) requires me to open apple+ control+ reset to get them to run ,and upon power up I get no disk activity at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Well it's odd for you to get *no* disk activity only on bootlegs, but then have them work fine if you manually boot. Do you really mean no activity, as in no spinning, nothing? Or does it spin and then just kick you to a prompt? The latter is pretty normal. I don't know (or remember) all the technicalities, but Apple II bootlegs were never bit-perfect. They were cracked, and the crack often involved doing something to the boot sectors to get them to work on regular disks. So a lot of them don't auto-boot. At least a lot of mine don't. I probably wouldn't worry if it's only happening on handmade disks. Unless you're really just getting no spinning of the disk or anything; that would be weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discgolfer72 Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 (edited) Well it's odd for you to get *no* disk activity only on bootlegs, but then have them work fine if you manually boot. Do you really mean no activity, as in no spinning, nothing? Or does it spin and then just kick you to a prompt? The latter is pretty normal. I don't know (or remember) all the technicalities, but Apple II bootlegs were never bit-perfect. They were cracked, and the crack often involved doing something to the boot sectors to get them to work on regular disks. So a lot of them don't auto-boot. At least a lot of mine don't. I probably wouldn't worry if it's only happening on handmade disks. Unless you're really just getting no spinning of the disk or anything; that would be weird. I get no red light and cant hear anything spinning (why I was concerned ) but now I'm back home ive pumped 50+ disks thru it (testing all the software that I got) and so far one or 2 disks have failed to load (ugg one being side b of Oregon trail ) so I'm guessing everything is working good enough still though only the factory disks load auto Edited January 7, 2018 by discgolfer72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamgroot Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 All that means is that there is no boot code in track 0 sector 0. You can install a boot sector by using Copy II+. But a lot of times the disks that don't boot are just data disks. And especially the back sides of floppy disks, more often than not, you will find the disk will boot to Dos on the front side and the back side does not boot. In those cases, boot the front of the disk, flip the disk and do a CATALOG to see if there are any files on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discgolfer72 Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 A+ thank for the info everyone just finished testing 200 disks on it lol still going strong so I think I'm good ended up with 22 not useable as is (data only , blank , or just dead ) out of the 200 ps while I'm here any sd /usb floppy options for the 2 c did some searching and info is spotty on here to get one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byte Knight Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 ps while I'm here any sd /usb floppy options for the 2 c did some searching and info is spotty on here to get one The Floppy Emu is the best way to go, as you also get a HD mode: https://www.bigmessowires.com/floppy-emu/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discgolfer72 Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 The Floppy Emu is the best way to go, as you also get a HD mode: https://www.bigmessowires.com/floppy-emu/ thanks got one on the way lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted January 7, 2018 Share Posted January 7, 2018 Booting a Floppy Emu on a IIc is a whole other can of worms: https://www.bigmessowires.com/2017/04/02/bootstrapping-apple-c-with-floppy-emu/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discgolfer72 Posted January 7, 2018 Author Share Posted January 7, 2018 thanks got my eye on a 2e as well so ill probably1 end up using the emu on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discgolfer72 Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 (edited) just got my floppy emu in its soo nice seems like the best floppy emulator for any system I own (not had a chance to mess with the nanopeb yet tho) easy to navigate stupid fast to load glad I bought it Edited January 12, 2018 by discgolfer72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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