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#1 Coolcrab OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:15 AM

I'm looking into getting a flashback portable. I assumed that it didn't support paddles, but I noticed that it does have kaboom built in. Am I missing something? (I googled but nothing)

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Posted Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:50 AM

I'm looking into getting a flashback portable. I assumed that it didn't support paddles, but I noticed that it does have kaboom built in. Am I missing something? (I googled but nothing)

 

It does not support paddles and won't in the 2018 version either. We have a candidate design for an onboard paddle, but it might not make it in until at least the 2019 model. As with all Flashback models, you can play paddle games with the joystick (or, in this case, the d-pad). It's not ideal, but it does work.



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Posted Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:18 PM

Ah ok! I bought one for homebrews testing but paddle games with dpad sounds horrible. :P

Perhaps you could do something like the game boy volume wheel as a paddle?

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Posted Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:25 PM

Dpad works terribly.  It's too fast.



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Posted Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:28 PM

And not accurate from what I saw on YouTube.

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Posted Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:34 PM

Any joystick or d-pad is horrible with a paddle- or spinner-based game, period. I don't even like mice or touchscreens in place of paddles/spinners. 



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Posted Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:37 PM

I grew up with a PC and breakout so I can live with a mouse. But I do agree that paddles are much better. And that's coming from somehow who touched one for the first time in his life last year :P

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Posted Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:39 PM

It does not support paddles and won't in the 2018 version either. We have a candidate design for an onboard paddle, but it might not make it in until at least the 2019 model. As with all Flashback models, you can play paddle games with the joystick (or, in this case, the d-pad). It's not ideal, but it does work.


How about a larger display? If the 2019 model has a larger display and onboard paddle, then this will be a winner.:)

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Posted Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:08 AM

How about a larger display? If the 2019 model has a larger display and onboard paddle, then this will be a winner. :)

 

The 2018 model will not have a larger display. It's too early to say anything about the 2019 model since the 2018 would have to be produced, etc., before any work begins on that.

 

Based on what I'm seeing with the improvements and additions made to the 2018 model, it will still likely be worth the upgrade for those with 2016 or 2017 models. I agree there was less of a compelling reason to upgrade from the 2016 to the 2017 model because most of the changes were relatively minor tweaks, but there's some more substantive changes for 2018.



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Posted Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:36 PM

I agree there was less of a compelling reason to upgrade from the 2016 to the 2017 model because most of the changes were relatively minor tweaks, but there's some more substantive changes for 2018.

2016 vs 2017 differences:

smaller screen (2017)

different D-pad (2017)

10 extra built-in games (2017)

an accessible battery on back (2017)

one game works on 2017 that was modified to work on the 2016

 

Am I missing anything Bill?



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Posted Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:29 AM

2016 vs 2017 differences:

smaller screen (2017)

different D-pad (2017)

10 extra built-in games (2017)

an accessible battery on back (2017)

one game works on 2017 that was modified to work on the 2016

 

Am I missing anything Bill?

 

The UI/UX is a bit different. For instance, the TV Type switch is no longer persistent. Also, not all 2016 portables had the larger screen as far as I know. 



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Posted Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:45 PM

 

The 2018 model will not have a larger display. It's too early to say anything about the 2019 model since the 2018 would have to be produced, etc., before any work begins on that.

 

Based on what I'm seeing with the improvements and additions made to the 2018 model, it will still likely be worth the upgrade for those with 2016 or 2017 models. I agree there was less of a compelling reason to upgrade from the 2016 to the 2017 model because most of the changes were relatively minor tweaks, but there's some more substantive changes for 2018.

 

I would like to see them just merge the FB and FB portable, which would basically be the 2018 flashback portable with SD card, controller ports and optional HDMI output to TV. A 4" diag screen would also be nice.



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Posted Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:37 PM

 

The UI/UX is a bit different. For instance, the TV Type switch is no longer persistent. Also, not all 2016 portables had the larger screen as far as I know. 

I forgot about the constant scroll at the bottom of the menu screen on the 2017 unit (www.atgames.us scroll).



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Posted Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:25 PM

Based on what I'm seeing with the improvements and additions made to the 2018 model, it will still likely be worth the upgrade for those with 2016 or 2017 models. I agree there was less of a compelling reason to upgrade from the 2016 to the 2017 model because most of the changes were relatively minor tweaks, but there's some more substantive changes for 2018.

 

Any chance you can elaborate on the "more substantive changes for 2018" ?


Edited by thetick1, Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:26 PM.


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Posted Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:15 AM

 

Any chance you can elaborate on the "more substantive changes for 2018" ?

 

Not yet. I should be getting an early test unit today to try out some of the new features.



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Posted Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:28 AM

Any chance that the 2018 version will have a cart slot? Or we will be able to put one in like the flashback 2?

It would be good competition agains the retron 77. Especially if you could do an Atari on a chip with HDMI



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Posted Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:38 AM

Any chance that the 2018 version will have a cart slot? Or we will be able to put one in like the flashback 2?

It would be good competition agains the retron 77. Especially if you could do an Atari on a chip with HDMI

 

No cart slots on the Atari side. However, expect something arguably better across the line.



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Posted Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:28 AM

What can be better than cart slots? :P



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Posted Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:50 AM

What can be better than cart slots? :P

 

An SD card slot!  This will allow you to play any compatible Atari 2600 game on the Flashback console (not to be confused with the portable).  This would be the Holy Grail of Atari flashbacks if it actually happens!



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Posted Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:59 AM

Idk, might as well get a retropi then. These carts need using :P

 

An SD card slot!  This will allow you to play any compatible Atari 2600 game on the Flashback console (not to be confused with the portable).  This would be the Holy Grail of Atari flashbacks if it actually happens!

 



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Posted Mon Feb 12, 2018 1:43 PM

The Only thing better than a cart slot would be an SD slot, IF it had Harmony style compatibility...But the Only thing Better than that would be an SD Slot PLUS a Cart Slot!!!

 

 

I can DREAM right?



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Posted Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:33 PM

The Only thing better than a cart slot would be an SD slot, IF it had Harmony style compatibility...But the Only thing Better than that would be an SD Slot PLUS a Cart Slot!!!

 

 

I can DREAM right?

YES! YES! YES! Make it so!!!



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Posted Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:27 AM

YES! YES! YES! Make it so!!!

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