Jump to content

Photo

Any MSX love?


62 replies to this topic

#1 VicViper OFFLINE  

VicViper

    Dragonstomper

  • 609 posts
  • Location:Rochester NY

Posted Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:10 PM

In the market for an MSX2, any other users on here? Im planning on grabbing a Panasonic A-1 since they are so abundant on Ebay, and because i don't plan on using a floppy drive. Gonna grab an SD cart from MSX Cartdridge shop as well.



#2 eebuckeye OFFLINE  

eebuckeye

    Stargunner

  • 1,083 posts

Posted Sat Jan 20, 2018 3:17 PM

I like the MSX!  I have the two US only MSX models (really meant as music computers) and a Megaflashrom SCC+ SD.  The MSX has thousands of games and I would like to get a MSX2 that works good in the US.



#3 artrag OFFLINE  

artrag

    Dragonstomper

  • 984 posts

Posted Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:05 PM

I've an MSX Turbo-R Panasonic A1GT
Using an SD cart is highly recommended

#4 VicViper OFFLINE  

VicViper

    Dragonstomper

  • Topic Starter
  • 609 posts
  • Location:Rochester NY

Posted Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:31 PM

I like the MSX!  I have the two US only MSX models (really meant as music computers) and a Megaflashrom SCC+ SD.  The MSX has thousands of games and I would like to get a MSX2 that works good in the US.

What models where released in the US? I tried finding the info and couldn't find them.



#5 nanochess OFFLINE  

nanochess

    Processorus Polyglotus

  • 5,386 posts
  • Coding something good
  • Location:Mexico City

Posted Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:34 PM

The Japanese MSX2 can work just fine in US, these are NTSC and even thought A.C. hardware is for 100 V.A.C it works just fine with 127 V.A.C.

 

Of course connecting video only thru composite or components as the RF modulator is calculated for Japanese TV.



#6 towmater OFFLINE  

towmater

    Dragonstomper

  • 528 posts

Posted Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:35 PM

I've just finished an rgb->scart cable for my Sony F1-XDJ. I have an 2xsd-based 512 megaram mapper, which turns out to be very confusing to use, as it emulates a variety of things, cartridge rom goes one place, a:, b: the cartridge's files, c: is a Gotek 720kb. I typed b: but accidentally hit b* and it ran the first program that it found with b in it, on another drive - so even the dos is confusing.

 

I still haven't figured out how to run SpaceManBow.



#7 carlsson OFFLINE  

carlsson

    Metagalactic Mule

  • 6,796 posts
  • Location:Västerås, Sweden

Posted Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:41 PM

If I understand correctly, Yamaha released the CX5M and perhaps one more model in the US as music computers but possibly they were alone on the market.

 

Personally I'm getting by with a Philips VG-8235 which is a rather common MSX2 model over here, though designed for European conditions and power then.



#8 VicViper OFFLINE  

VicViper

    Dragonstomper

  • Topic Starter
  • 609 posts
  • Location:Rochester NY

Posted Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:53 PM

The Japanese MSX2 can work just fine in US, these are NTSC and even thought A.C. hardware is for 100 V.A.C it works just fine with 127 V.A.C.

 

Of course connecting video only thru composite or components as the RF modulator is calculated for Japanese TV.

My understanding is this is a bad idea. Should use a step down transformer.



#9 JamesD OFFLINE  

JamesD

    Quadrunner

  • 8,158 posts
  • Location:Flyover State

Posted Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:15 PM

I had a Turbo R.  Cool machine



#10 spacecadet OFFLINE  

spacecadet

    River Patroller

  • 2,705 posts

Posted Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:25 AM

I've wanted an MSX for a while. Problem for me is they're a little expensive for what they can do. I've played a lot of emulated MSX games on the PSP, and the original MSX really does feel about ColecoVision level. MSX2, maybe more like NES, but the games aren't quite as good. And an MSX2 machine is like $200 minimum. If you can get one of those A-1's for less than $200 shipped, might be worth going for. My understanding is that they're like the lowest of the MSX2's, though. Not much RAM, VRAM or whatever, might not support all games without upgrades.

 

Turbo R's, forget it. Like $700! At that point, I'd rather just play on emulation.



#11 917k OFFLINE  

917k

    Chopper Commander

  • 145 posts
  • Location:West Coast, USA

Posted Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:36 AM

I just purchased a Panasonic FS-A1WSX expanded to 512k but I am new to MSX. What SD card options do you recommend?

 

Thanks



#12 artrag OFFLINE  

artrag

    Dragonstomper

  • 984 posts

Posted Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:25 AM

This is a solid all in one solution
https://www.msx.org/...lashROM_SCC+_SD

You can use as flash cartridge and as SD disk at the same time.
It includes the SCC audio chip and mapper for konami and recent homebrew games, and additional psg chip to avoid any balancing problem between scc and psg, and it can emulate a floppy disk by its .dsk file.
It can also include up to 512kB of ram expansion.

Edited by artrag, Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:34 AM.


#13 discgolfer72 OFFLINE  

discgolfer72

    Moonsweeper

  • 270 posts

Posted Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:39 AM

My understanding is this is a bad idea. Should use a step down transformer.

yes and no

is it going to cause a problem 

probably not

most wall wart transformers are rated at 10-20% tolerance

so a  wall wart from japan rated at 100v  should be ok at 110/120 we pull from outlets here in the us

 

on the other had you are causing more strain on the wall wart   and  they will run hot  so  it can cause the brick to fail premature

i really only use my step down xformer  on my systems that have internal power supplies 

Saturn , PlayStation , etc 



#14 The Usotsuki OFFLINE  

The Usotsuki

    Stargunner

  • 1,947 posts
  • Also called "Licca"

Posted Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:06 AM

I'd love to be able to dig up an MSX, especially an MSX2, sometime.



#15 roland p OFFLINE  

roland p

    River Patroller

  • 2,448 posts
  • $23
  • Location:The Netherlands

Posted Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:44 AM

I have fond memories of the MSX. It was my favorite homecomputer. No special hardware but it had great games!

#16 ColorComputerStore OFFLINE  

ColorComputerStore

    Star Raider

  • 92 posts
  • Location:USA

Posted Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:02 PM

I lived in Japan for 14 years so MSX has a special spot for me. In my recent trip back, I picked up a bunch of sports games for MSX1. I'm selling them on eBay. If you want the link to my store, ping me. Also have 3 MSX2 machines. I am building a special power supply to run a Panasonic and Sony. The third MSX2 is also a Sony but takes a larger 3 pin supply. (grrrrrr). I tend to import a few MSX machines a month.

 

Good to see some love for MSX here.

 

Cheers



#17 Nebulon OFFLINE  

Nebulon

    Stargunner

  • 1,799 posts

Posted Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:47 PM

Cool machines (and great case designs too). 

 

I'm a big ColecoVision fan and MSX is definitely my idea of the evolution of that platform. 



#18 artrag OFFLINE  

artrag

    Dragonstomper

  • 984 posts

Posted Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:50 AM

Cool machines (and great case designs too). 
 
I'm a big ColecoVision fan and MSX is definitely my idea of the evolution of that platform. 

I agree and I did that path.
If the CV had had more ram probably it would have lasted much longer.

#19 Greg2600 OFFLINE  

Greg2600

    River Patroller

  • 2,913 posts
  • Location:NJ

Posted Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:11 AM

Cool system but too expensive to get into.  



#20 Bill Loguidice OFFLINE  

Bill Loguidice

    Quadrunner

  • 6,642 posts
  • Armchair Arcade Managing Director
  • Location:Burlington, New Jersey, USA

Posted Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:11 PM

I agree and I did that path.
If the CV had had more ram probably it would have lasted much longer.

 

The ColecoVision's problems were not its RAM or lack thereof, but the company behind it.

 

Until recently I had a very nice large and diverse MSX collection. In making the hard choice to keep a minimal collection, it had to go. Perhaps if it had a bit more English-centric content I would have kept one.



#21 carlsson OFFLINE  

carlsson

    Metagalactic Mule

  • 6,796 posts
  • Location:Västerås, Sweden

Posted Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:57 PM

MSX was reasonably affordable in 2008-2010, though already then more expensive than your run of the mill Commodore or Atari computer. Nowadays I fully understand if you find MSX way too expensive.

#22 artrag OFFLINE  

artrag

    Dragonstomper

  • 984 posts

Posted Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:48 PM

For those willing to give a try to an mx1 this is a web emulator with quite a lot of games to be selected by a menu

 

http://www.file-hunt...hp?id=uridium48

 

Uridium48 is the freeware version of a port done of mine

 

This is original mine instead

 

http://www.file-hunt...?id=deepdungeon

 

I've also developed the voice coder used in this Salamander patch

 

http://www.file-hunt...p?id=salamander


Edited by artrag, Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:53 PM.


#23 carlsson OFFLINE  

carlsson

    Metagalactic Mule

  • 6,796 posts
  • Location:Västerås, Sweden

Posted Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:30 PM

My latest haul: 7 assorted MSX1 and MSX2 games for a total of ~$38 at a local gaming flea market. No particularly interesting titles, but at affordable prices.

 

msx-20180127.jpg

 

From right to left:

 

Casio: Exciting Jockey

Casio: Exciting Baseball

Nidec-M: The Cockpit (MSX2)

HAL: Hole in One Special (MSX2) *

Takara/Toshiba: Real Tennis

Sony: Four Battle Mah-Jong

Square: Dragon Slayer

 

*) Now I've got four different golf games on the MSX, of which 3 from HAL and 1 from Konami


Edited by carlsson, Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:32 PM.


#24 eebuckeye OFFLINE  

eebuckeye

    Stargunner

  • 1,083 posts

Posted Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:30 AM

Is the Panasonic A-1 the best choice for price/performance for a MSX2 computer for use in the US?  I see it has 64k ram which is enough for all programs?



#25 artrag OFFLINE  

artrag

    Dragonstomper

  • 984 posts

Posted Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:58 PM

64K of RAM are fine only if you plan to use roms and megaroms. If you want to try msxdos based games and recent homebrews, you will need more ram (or a ram cartridge).

Actually msxdos2 will need 128KB minimum to start, but allows FAT16 and subdirctories.

msxdos1 will start with 64KB but uses FAT12 and no subdirectories.


Edited by artrag, Sun Jan 28, 2018 5:05 PM.





0 user(s) are browsing this forum

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users