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#1 cbmeeks OFFLINE  

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Posted Fri Feb 2, 2018 9:31 AM

Hello all.  I hope I'm not OT here but I'm finding it difficult to find a place devoted to early PC (8088 - 80486) hardware and games.

 

So, I'm slowly building a vintage 386.  I have a motherboard that has 16 bit ISA slots only.  My CPU is an AMD 386 @ 40Mhz.  

 

I also have a standard 3.5" (1.44MB) floppy as well as a 5 1/2" floppy drive.  

 

Now I'm at the point where I'm looking for some type of ISA (8bit?  16bit?) disk controller.  It's been a LONG time since I've built a computer this old.  I remember there are IDE cards, EIDE cards, etc.

 

I'd like a real hard drive and not use a SD or CF.  But I may go that route because it's hard to find small drives that aren't used and with problems.  I would also hate to buy a 1TB drive and only use 512MB.  lol

 

So, in summary:

 

Hard drive (preferred) in the 512MB to 2GB size.  But I may use CF.

3.5" floppy

5 1/2" floppy

IDE CD-ROM (optional)

 

Oh, didn't they make controller cards that had I/O ports too?  I'm going to need those, obviously.  Especially serial.

 

Any suggestions on what card(s) I should get?  Brand names?  Types?  Etc.

 

Thanks for any suggestions!



#2 carlsson OFFLINE  

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Posted Fri Feb 2, 2018 10:19 AM

Although it is mainly intended for 8-bit ISA slots, I would get an XT-IDE which is a modern homebrew card that you may find on Tindie, possibly also eBay and other places. I'm not sure it would support ATAPI CD-ROM but then again most other IDE interfaces you can find probably will not as well.



#3 82-T/A OFFLINE  

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Posted Fri Feb 2, 2018 5:11 PM

Hello all.  I hope I'm not OT here but I'm finding it difficult to find a place devoted to early PC (8088 - 80486) hardware and games.

 

So, I'm slowly building a vintage 386.  I have a motherboard that has 16 bit ISA slots only.  My CPU is an AMD 386 @ 40Mhz.  

 

I also have a standard 3.5" (1.44MB) floppy as well as a 5 1/2" floppy drive.  

 

Now I'm at the point where I'm looking for some type of ISA (8bit?  16bit?) disk controller.  It's been a LONG time since I've built a computer this old.  I remember there are IDE cards, EIDE cards, etc.

 

I'd like a real hard drive and not use a SD or CF.  But I may go that route because it's hard to find small drives that aren't used and with problems.  I would also hate to buy a 1TB drive and only use 512MB.  lol

 

So, in summary:

 

Hard drive (preferred) in the 512MB to 2GB size.  But I may use CF.

3.5" floppy

5 1/2" floppy

IDE CD-ROM (optional)

 

Oh, didn't they make controller cards that had I/O ports too?  I'm going to need those, obviously.  Especially serial.

 

Any suggestions on what card(s) I should get?  Brand names?  Types?  Etc.

 

Thanks for any suggestions!

 

Real simple. If your motherboard does not ALREADY HAVE the 40pin IDE connector on it, then you need to get yourself a 16-bit ISA IDE controller. It will look like this: 

 

tans_ts5188_ide_multi_io_controller_card

 

 

 

They typically come with COMM ports, PARALLEL PORTS, and maybe even a Joystick port. It'll also usually come with a FLOPPY controller. If you already have one, then scratch that. But make sure you look on your motherboard and see if you already have one of those IDE ports on the motherboard. It would look like the one in the upper-right corner (note, one next to it is FDD)

 

If you know that you don't want more comm ports and already have a floppy port, then you can just get a simple IDE controller. 

 

And it would look very simply, just like this:

 

 

s-l1000.jpg

 

 

 

Honestly, just searched eBay... this is what you want. It really doesn't get much more simple than this. Card, software, etc... it's all you need:

 

https://www.ebay.com...GE/232619625994

 

Here's a picture of it:

 

s-l1600.jpg

 

 

 

 

Now, as far as storage, you CAN get an SSD drive. They have things called "Disk On Modules" and they sell them for dirt cheap. Here's one for $14 bucks. It's 512mb, really all that you could possibly want (it's what I use). It's a tiny little DOM, has a power connector, and plugs right into the IDE port.

 

https://www.ebay.com...LC/221178581875

 

You CANNOT go wrong with this. There is nothing nostalgic about drives crashing and slow loading. This will go as fast as your motherboard's 16bit bus can handle. 

 

 

s-l1600.jpg

 

 

Anyway, I really love this stuff. I may not check back this thread that often, but if you need / want any help, please feel free to reach out to me in PM and I'll come back and post in here. I was born in the late 70s, and grew up through the 80s and 90s... so everything from 8088 to 80486 was what I grew up with.


Edited by 82-T/A, Fri Feb 2, 2018 5:14 PM.

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#4 Keatah OFFLINE  

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Posted Fri Feb 2, 2018 8:57 PM

VOGONS is probably the best place for vintage computing.






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