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#1 pacman000 OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Feb 5, 2018 12:46 PM

 

Somewhat dull, but interesting. Jack seems very matter-of-fact. Wish he would've emphasized the ST's advantages a bit more.



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Posted Tue Feb 6, 2018 8:02 AM

Best part is when he shake hand with host and he walk out of studio, right at end of video! :D

Host kept laughing since Jack suppose to wait for outro to end :) 



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Posted Wed Feb 7, 2018 4:42 AM

Wish he would've emphasized the ST's advantages a bit more.

 

What advantages?  Besides being cheap, its advantages were all *potential* advantages, with very little software to exploit it.  Don't get me wrong, I lusted after it, still love the ST, but I remember going into the computer shop and looking at the software shelf (and a small one at that), and thinking "that's it?"

 

Our dealer didn't have anything to really show it off until he got a copy of Sundog, then King's Quest.  That's when he started moving units.  Until then, it just sat at the TOS screen in low res-- I think he was embarrassed to boot ST BASIC for me to play with.



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Posted Thu Mar 1, 2018 6:27 PM

 

Somewhat dull, but interesting. Jack seems very matter-of-fact. Wish he would've emphasized the ST's advantages a bit more.

The host emphasised it enough at the opening credits where he tells us the Mac should prepare to do battle AKA get ass-raped by the $800 ST with colour AKA the Macbasher/Jackintosh lol.

 

Also it is important to remember JT jetted into London the same day and was off to the airport or another press related duty in the UK. Did Commodore top brass or that little Golem Irving Gould ever come on any UK show at all to explain their piss poor 11 month delay for a PAL Amiga 1000 release? nope. In 1986 Micro Live were STILL using an NTSC Amiga 1000 in 1986 to demonstrate Marble Madness lol.



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Posted Wed Mar 7, 2018 4:57 PM

 

What advantages?  Besides being cheap, its advantages were all *potential* advantages, with very little software to exploit it.  Don't get me wrong, I lusted after it, still love the ST, but I remember going into the computer shop and looking at the software shelf (and a small one at that), and thinking "that's it?"

 

Our dealer didn't have anything to really show it off until he got a copy of Sundog, then King's Quest.  That's when he started moving units.  Until then, it just sat at the TOS screen in low res-- I think he was embarrassed to boot ST BASIC for me to play with.

 

It is unfortunate the ST didn't really launch with demos or similar stuff that were already known to help sell the 8-bit computers before..

 

I'm assuming in 1985 there was not even a MIDI sequencer software ready for the ST.. 



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Posted Wed Mar 7, 2018 6:22 PM

 

It is unfortunate the ST didn't really launch with demos or similar stuff that were already known to help sell the 8-bit computers before..

 

I'm assuming in 1985 there was not even a MIDI sequencer software ready for the ST.. 

 

Yes, a few years later (1989), I was working at a store named Compucentre in Metrotown Mall (in Vancouver).  We sold everything--C64's, Macs, Apple //e, Compaq, IBM PS/2, Atari and Amiga.  Even NES, Atari 7800, TurboGrafx, SMS and Genesis consoles.  All of the salespeople had their niches... mine was the ST.  I had the Snowman video, and that combined with promises of IBM and Mac compatibility (had the CP/M and C64 emulators, too) helped me sell a fair number of them.  I wish I had a few more demos because I sure got sick of that Snowman demo.  LOL



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Posted Wed Mar 7, 2018 6:26 PM

 

Yes, a few years later (1989), I was working at a store named Compucentre in Metrotown Mall (in Vancouver).  We sold everything--C64's, Macs, Apple //e, Compaq, IBM PS/2, Atari and Amiga.  Even NES, Atari 7800, TurboGrafx, SMS and Genesis consoles.  All of the salespeople had their niches... mine was the ST.  I had the Snowman video, and that combined with promises of IBM and Mac compatibility (had the CP/M and C64 emulators, too) helped me sell a fair number of them.  I wish I had a few more demos because I sure got sick of that Snowman demo.  LOL

 

LOL ..   Great memory and thanks for sharing!   The late 80s were awesome for choice.  

 

I was on the younger side so my experience was the sadness of watching the Atari software shelves slowly shrink to nothing every time we visited the mall.  But tons of good memories actually using the ST (and 8bit) with Dad! 



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Posted Wed Mar 7, 2018 6:30 PM

 

LOL ..   Great memory and thanks for sharing!   The late 80s were awesome for choice.  

 

I was on the younger side so my experience was the sadness of watching the Atari software shelves slowly shrink to nothing every time we visited the mall.  But tons of good memories actually using the ST (and 8bit) with Dad! 

 

Yeah, it made me sad too.  Our manager would order less and less, but it was still available to order so I had to make sure I talked to everyone who was looking at that wall.  I had that list memorized!  I actually ordered a lot of software for myself that I never ended up using (just because it was cheap/on clearance)... especially for the Atari 8bit.  I didn't own a floppy drive at the time, so it was complete speculation.  Bought a C compiler that I sold 5 years ago that was still in shrinkwrap, for instance.



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Posted Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:30 PM

 

It is unfortunate the ST didn't really launch with demos or similar stuff that were already known to help sell the 8-bit computers before..

 

I remember cool demos running on the ST in store, but I suspect it may have been a little bit later. 



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Posted Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:32 PM

 

Yes, a few years later (1989), I was working at a store named Compucentre in Metrotown Mall (in Vancouver).  We sold everything--C64's, Macs, Apple //e, Compaq, IBM PS/2, Atari and Amiga.  Even NES, Atari 7800, TurboGrafx, SMS and Genesis consoles.  All of the salespeople had their niches... mine was the ST.  I had the Snowman video, and that combined with promises of IBM and Mac compatibility (had the CP/M and C64 emulators, too) helped me sell a fair number of them.  I wish I had a few more demos because I sure got sick of that Snowman demo.  LOL

 

Man - there's a name I haven't heard since the 1990s! I used to love going in there to drool about computers I couldn't afford and consoles with cartridges I couldn't afford. LOL

 



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Posted Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:43 PM

 

Man - there's a name I haven't heard since the 1990s! I used to love going in there to drool about computers I couldn't afford and consoles with cartridges I couldn't afford. LOL

 

Yeah I don't think I would have been buying much there if I hadn't been working there.  The employee discount is all that made the cartridges somewhat affordable!  I usually wait until things were on clearance before I bought them.



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Posted Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:45 PM

 

Yeah I don't think I would have been buying much there if I hadn't been working there.  The employee discount is all that made the cartridges somewhat affordable!  I usually wait until things were on clearance before I bought them.

 

I was trying to figure out when it closed and came across an abandoned website still in existence! 

 

http://pages.interlo...us_side_800.htm






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