Another Retropie question(MESS/Coleco tabletop)

[SiberianSpForces]

This is dealing with MESS and the Coleco tabletop games. The game set I have runs in MESS 64. I installed the MESS 2016 package and am wondering what bios I need to snag in order to play these. I've asked on the Pi forum and r/ReteoPie with no success. Figure I'd give it a shot here.

[Mr Robot]

You need the coleco.zip for MAME 0.174

 

This is the 0.194 version, I don't know if any changes have happened to the coleco driver in the last couple of years, give it a try. coleco.zip

 

Here's a link to the RetroPie WIKI with instructions on how to set it up/where to put roms and bios files.

 

https://github.com/retropie/retropie-setup/wiki/MESS

 

[mr_me]

If that is MESS version 0.64 it is very, very old. What version is MESS 2016; should be no older than version 0.170.

 

That coleco.zip file is for coleco vision rather than the tabletop games. The mame files for the coleco tabletops might be called cdkong.zip, cfrogger.zip, cgalaxn.zip, cmspacmn.zip, and cpacman.zip.

[Mr Robot]

Thanks mr_me, SiberianSpForces caught me out because he's asking for something that doesn't work on RetroPie! I'm guessing MESS64 would be the 64bit MESS for PC. Judging from this post.. a couple of years ago too!

 

http://www.handheldmuseum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2146&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60

 

The only MESS cores that get set up are :-

 

Colecovision (100% speed, driver: coleco)

CreatiVision (80-100% speed, driver: crvision, not added to the script yet)

Emerson Arcadia 2001 (100% speed, driver: arcadia)

Nintendo Entertainment System (100% speed, driver: nes)

Nintendo Gameboy (100% speed, driver: gameboy)

Sega Dreamcast VMU (100% speed, driver: svmu)

 

So you can see where I made my mistake!

[SiberianSpForces]

I didn't have any luck. Though I did notice there's a 3 line message that only pops up once a session when selecting one of the games. It's there for a split second, right before the loading prompt where you can hit a button appears.

[SiberianSpForces]

If that is MESS version 0.64 it is very, very old. What version is MESS 2016; should be no older than version 0.170.

 

That coleco.zip file is for coleco vision rather than the tabletop games. The mame files for the coleco tabletops might be called cdkong.zip, cfrogger.zip, cgalaxn.zip, cmspacmn.zip, and cpacman.zip.

IIRC, the MESS version I use is .161, I want to say it's the version that comes in the zip from Mr Robot's link. The zips for the tabletops are named like that.

 

Thanks mr_me, SiberianSpForces caught me out because he's asking for something that doesn't work on RetroPie! I'm guessing MESS64 would be the 64bit MESS for PC. Judging from this post.. a couple of years ago too!

 

http://www.handheldmuseum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2146&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60

 

The only MESS cores that get set up are :-

 

Colecovision (100% speed, driver: coleco)

CreatiVision (80-100% speed, driver: crvision, not added to the script yet)

Emerson Arcadia 2001 (100% speed, driver: arcadia)

Nintendo Entertainment System (100% speed, driver: nes)

Nintendo Gameboy (100% speed, driver: gameboy)

Sega Dreamcast VMU (100% speed, driver: svmu)

 

So you can see where I made my mistake!

That's the link I got them from. And that's a big "aw nuts" for it not being able to work.

[mr_me]

You can get the latest mame for Raspberry Pi here. It's compiled for current Raspbian versions so the current version might not yet be compatible with Retropie. Try version 0.188 or older with Retropie.

 

https://choccyhobnob.com/

[SiberianSpForces]

I know the rom set I have for MAME is for either .174 or .178.

[Mr Robot]

That MAME build on ChoccyHobNob won't work on Jessie, and won't work on RetroPie so it's a double no. It needs the GCC 6+ C Libraries from Stretch and the SDL used isn't compatible with the custom one used by RetroPie.

 

If you have the 174 or 178 mame romset you almost certainly have the right roms for lr-mess2016 but you will have to set it all up by hand, that means dropping out of retropie and configuring retroarch from the command line to get the right games running. Only then will you be able to see if they run at all, what the error is of they dont run.

 

I'd get the PC binary for MAME 0.174 0r 0.178, whichever one you have roms for and set it up on your PC so you can test your ROMS. Get a collection of all the ROMS that you want to run, that you have tested running, and move those to a pi and work through the retroarch setup.

 

From a PC you can use commandline options like -verifyroms and -listall to help you get the roms right.

[mr_me]

I was thinking the ChoccyHobNob pre-compiled mame v0.188 would work with Raspbian jesse. I think it was compiled under jesse. The question is where to find it, maybe contact ChoccyHobNob. You are correct the current version is compiled for raspbian stretch and retropie is not yet compatible with stretch. You could do a dualboot with Raspbian stretch and raspbian jesse/retropie but an older ChoccyHobNob mame should be possible.

 

https://github.com/ChoccyHobNob

Edited February 7, 2018 by mr_me

[SiberianSpForces]

The rom set works with MAME 2003 that came with the image. Aside from the NeoGeo games and some Capcom ones, I haven't got around to fiddling with FBA and the NeoGeo zip.