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#1 jim1174 OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:03 PM

I have noticed that there are companies making and selling controllers that look like the originals but are new. What brand did you try and do you think they are as good as the original ones?

#2 AtariBrian OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:49 PM

Have not tried any but no I don't think they would be as good as the originals . But a Best Electronics gold board are the highest of quality .



#3 Swami OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:08 AM

I have noticed that there are companies making and selling controllers that look like the originals but are new. What brand did you try and do you think they are as good as the original ones?

 

Hyperkin has made an optical version of the SNES mouse. That has to be better than the original ball mouse.

 

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Posted Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:14 AM

Have not tried any but no I don't think they would be as good as the originals . But a Best Electronics gold board are the highest of quality .


I've tried some of the newer reproduction CX-40s and never had one last more than a few months before they broke, but I do agree that the Best Electronics gold PCBs in an original CX-40 are a great choice. The dome contact for the button on them is a little stiff and clicky for my liking but the dome contacts for the joystick are very responsive and feel great. Best's silicone joystick boots are awesome too and really go a long way towards preventing control errors when your hands start sweating.

I really like the AtGames wired CX-40 reproductions too, they actually feel the best of any joystick of that style for my tastes, I've just never had one last more than a couple months before one of the tabs that press down on the membrane contacts inside the joystick snapped off. So in spite of my gripes over the button stiffness I've stuck with an original CX-40 coupled with a Best Electronics gold PCB and silicone boot for their reliability.

Edited by Jin, Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:16 AM.


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Posted Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:18 AM

The look and feel is so hard to replicate with the original Atari 2600 sticks, and I'm not even sure if it's worth trying to anymore. The original sticks are awfully stiff, and, while I think we like them for nostalgic reasons because that's what a lot of us were first exposed to joystick-wise, they're probably not the best design for use today. That's why I consider it a positive that the AtGames versions of the joysticks tend to be on the looser side, for more modern expectations.

 

Personally, I've been trying to track down a good Atari-standard (or even Genesis or PS1/2) compatible arcade-style stick (preferably with real arcade-style parts, not cheap, mushy equivalents). I can use my X-Arcade with the necessary adapters, but I'd like something less bulky. I actually like this, but not with shipping to the US being 50% the cost of the actual unit: http://amigakit.amig...roducts_id=1172 .



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Posted Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:25 PM

...That's why I consider it a positive that the AtGames versions of the joysticks tend to be on the looser side, for more modern expectations.

 

 

 

I respectfully disagree.  Might be my preference, but the looseness is what I don't like about the AtGames joysticks.  Try playing a game of H.E.R.O. and getting through some of the screens that require a tight control. 

 

That Arcade Evolution joystick looks nice! :)



#7 Bill Loguidice OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:34 PM

That Arcade Evolution joystick looks nice! :)

 

I'd pay that price if there were buttons on both sides. As it is, I can talk myself out of it because of the high cost of shipping.



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Posted Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:47 PM

 

I'd pay that price if there were buttons on both sides. As it is, I can talk myself out of it because of the high cost of shipping.

 

Yea over $82 (Shipping is $22+ ) is bit too steep or a joystick in my opinion.



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Posted Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:24 PM

Agreed.  Its too costly, but like the way it looks and you can have the joystick in the left or right side.



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Posted Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:54 PM

2600-daptor.  I cannot say this enough.  Why bother with repro sticks when you can use the real thing.

 

http://www.2600-daptor.com/



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Posted Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:23 PM

Is it anything like this old USB repro I have laying around? I have no recollection where I snagged it.. but it's obviously not new since I've had it a few years. Works fine enough though for Stella or anything else I feel like using it for. 

 

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Edited by NE146, Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:24 PM.


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Posted Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:14 PM

2600-daptor.  I cannot say this enough.  Why bother with repro sticks when you can use the real thing.

 

http://www.2600-daptor.com/


I second this device.



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Posted Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:36 AM

Atgames wired flashback controllers are great.  They are my go to controllers. I have a tough time going back to my originals. Flashbacks are really smooth, so I can actually set them on a book on my lap or a table and play it like an arcade stick.

 

Sometimes the give of the stick is a bit 'too' much, but for most games it's perfect for me.



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Posted Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:39 PM

I have found and modified broken Atari controllers and repaired/modified them with mechanical micro switches. Those are generally pretty freaking cool. I also have NES pads made to work with the VCS and 7800. Those are the controllers that get used the most in my house, as the normal stick has a tendency to cramp my hands. 



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Posted Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:32 PM

Depending on the game, I normally use the analog stick or dpad on a PS2 dual shock with a PSX to Amiga adapter and the Seagull 78. I can reprogram the extra buttons to be directions for games where joystick up or down is something like jump or thrust or gear-shift. I can even use wireless PS2 controllers. I just got a motion controlled PS2 controller I going to test out soon. Sometimes I use a modified Sega Master Stick modded for the 7800 that has the big club stick replaced with a CX-22 stick.



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Posted Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:28 PM

Regular Genesis controllers or the Genesis arcade stick are what I end up using.  That arcade stick is great for Ms Pac Man. 

 

Don't have many paddle games, but need to clean mine up so that they work right anyway.



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Posted Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:48 PM

I have noticed that there are companies making and selling controllers that look like the originals but are new. What brand did you try and do you think they are as good as the original ones?

 

 

Don`t know if the thread-maker only wants answers about Atari VCS-2600 controllers or generally about clone controllers? So my answer is generally.

 

The most of my experiences with clone-controllers are bad. Mostly they feel cheap and steer not nearly as good as the original ones. But there are some exceptions. I can tell you two clones, which i really like.

 

First one is the "iBuffalo SNES gamepad" which has a USB-connector for using it on the PC with emulators. Looks and feels like my original SNES-controller. Good D-Pad and good buttons.

 

Second one is the "Hori N64 controller" which i also like as much as the original. It`s for using on the N64-console and it is smaller than the original Nintendo controller. Also it seems, that the analog-stick is more resilient, it also looks different. More like the analogstick of the Gamecube-controller. Only problem with these Hori controllers is, that they are now very expensive, which they was not back in time. Nevertheless, i also like the original Nintendo N64-controllers alot, the only problem with them is, that the analog-stick goes baggy when they are in heavy use. It can be repaired, but it`s a little bit nervy when this problem appears again and again after some time. Apart this, i really like the original N64 controllers.

 

So there are some great clones on the market, but this is the exception. Most time they are not good. Generally i prefer controller-adapters, which allows the using of the original controllers on another system and also often give the possibility to switch between different buttonmappings.


Edited by AW127, Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:01 PM.


#18 jim1174 OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:44 PM

My question was mainly about the 2600 controllers that look like the original but are new




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