Zap! Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Well I finally got around to installing my Sophia RGB mod on my Atari 800XL last night, seemingly without any problems (composite still works). The problem is that I need an RGB DB9 to SCART cable for my PVM. I sent Retro Console Accessories a message, but no response yet. What are my options if I do not want to make my own cable? eBay came up totally empty. Any other good online stores familiar with this? I would gladly pay one of you experts to make one if Retro Console Accessories doesn't get back to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zap! Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 This is proving to be very difficult. Someone please name your price and take my money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Have you tried checking with retrogamingcables.co.UK yet? I think they sell some scart to pvm cables. Mitch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zap! Posted March 21, 2018 Author Share Posted March 21, 2018 Have you tried checking with retrogamingcables.co.UK yet? I think they sell some scart to pvm cables. Mitch Yes. They finally got back to me with the following reply: Thank you for your enquiry Unfortunately I’m not doing custom cables Best regards Robert fletcher www.retrogamingcables.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Which monitor do you have? Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zap! Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 Which monitor do you have? Mitch I have a Sony PVM, with SCART attached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I understand that part. Which model Sony PVM do you have? There are quite a few of them. Also if you can, post a pic of the RGB port. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zap! Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 I understand that part. Which model Sony PVM do you have? There are quite a few of them. Also if you can, post a pic of the RGB port. Mitch The PVM model number is PVM-20M2U and it has BNC ports. However, a BNC to SCART (like this cable was added, so it's a standard SCART connection now to the monitor. The connection of the Sophia (on my Atari 800XL) is a DB9. It looks exactly like the end of an Atari 2600 or Sega Genesis controller (9 pin, female). If you need a pic I can take one. So I would need a DB9 male to SCART. I have a .PDF of what a SCART to DB9 would look like attached. Thank you, Zap! SCART_DB9.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I hate to say this, but it is time to get your DIY hands dirty. I'd build you a cable and ship it, but I don't have the a/v equipment to test on. Get SCART cable. Cut cord. Get DB9 extension. Cut cord. Strip internal wires. Study the pinouts and label the individual wires accordingly. You will need a multimeter to test. NEVER ASSUME THAT COLORS WILL BE THE SAME ACROSS DIFFERENT CABLES, EVEN FROM THE SAME MANUFACTURER!!! Place a large heat shrink over the cable sheaths and smaller heat shrinks over the individual wires. Strip ends of smaller wires and solder together. Push the heat shrink tubes over each solder joint and heat with a lighter. Next place the large heat shrink tube over the entire splice to secure everything together. Heat and enjoy your new cable! Tools needed: Soldering iron. 60/40 fine diameter rosin flux solder (do not get "lead free" - it is brittle and much more difficult to work with for hand jobs). Multimeter for testing traces. Assorted heat shrink tubes or electrical tape (heat shrink is highly recommended). SCART cable. DB9 extension cable. Diagonal cutters. Wire stripper. Pro tip: For testing female connections with a meter, you can stick a paperclip or component lead into the pin hole. If your cables come shielded, you can slip a length of wire and aluminum foil under the large shrink tube to maintain the shield for isolation and noise suppression. Shielded cables are recommended for audio / video applications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Got it, I thought you were looking for a SCART adapter for your PVM. You want a custom video out to SCART adapter. Your PDF diagram is slightly confusing, it would help if it was labeled. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zap! Posted March 22, 2018 Author Share Posted March 22, 2018 I hate to say this, but it is time to get your DIY hands dirty. I'd build you a cable and ship it, but I don't have the a/v equipment to test on. Get SCART cable. Cut cord. Get DB9 extension. Cut cord. Strip internal wires. Study the pinouts and label the individual wires accordingly. You will need a multimeter to test. NEVER ASSUME THAT COLORS WILL BE THE SAME ACROSS DIFFERENT CABLES, EVEN FROM THE SAME MANUFACTURER!!! Place a large heat shrink over the cable sheaths and smaller heat shrinks over the individual wires. Strip ends of smaller wires and solder together. Push the heat shrink tubes over each solder joint and heat with a lighter. Next place the large heat shrink tube over the entire splice to secure everything together. Heat and enjoy your new cable! Tools needed: Soldering iron. 60/40 fine diameter rosin flux solder (do not get "lead free" - it is brittle and much more difficult to work with for hand jobs). Multimeter for testing traces. Assorted heat shrink tubes or electrical tape (heat shrink is highly recommended). SCART cable. DB9 extension cable. Diagonal cutters. Wire stripper. Pro tip: For testing female connections with a meter, you can stick a paperclip or component lead into the pin hole. If your cables come shielded, you can slip a length of wire and aluminum foil under the large shrink tube to maintain the shield for isolation and noise suppression. Shielded cables are recommended for audio / video applications. I actually have the tools need in that list, except for the spare SCART and DB9, and also shrink tubes. I probably could do this, but always thought professional cables were better, or so they claim. Like Mitch says though, the diagram is confusing. On the SCART end for example, are 5 fused 7 together? 2, 4, and 6 all together too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 I wouldn't worry about the scart end, you can find pinouts for it all over the internet. I would be more concerned about the db9 side. Mitch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zap! Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 OK, so I ordered the SCART cable and DB9 extension cable, along with heat shrinks. I will attempt this myself, but I'm not feeling too confidant with that diagram and without a video. Mitch, what I mean is look at pin 4 on the DB9. It's going into pin 11 on the SCART, but what is going on with pin 9 (SCART side)? Do I connect 9 and 11 together? Also, look at common shield on DB9 side. So many things are fused together...And where does 9 lead to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Where did you get the diagram? Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zap! Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) Where did you get the diagram? Mitch It's in this thread, about the Sophia mod (which gives your Atari 8-bit that new, DB9 cable that makes it RGB capable). I can't quite remember what page it's on, but it was posted toward the middle I think. Edited March 23, 2018 by Zap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Hmm, I can't seem to find a decent pinout in that thread after a quick skim. By the way, you may want to consider using a SCART male connector instead of cutting up a SCART extension. It would look cleaner. https://console5.com/store/scart-plug-21-pin-male-cable-connector.html Mitch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zap! Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) After writing to Cool Novelties, they are now selling the DB9 to SCART cable that I need. I just ordered one, from the UK. Too bad I already ordered the SCART and DB9 that I was going to make my own cable with. Oh well, I can still practice on it I guess, since it will be at least two weeks or more before the real cable arrives from Europe. Here's the cable: https://coolnovelties.co.uk/coolnovelties/atari-800-1200-65xe-130xe/307-atari-sophia-rgb-mod-board-to-scart-cable-0705693506395.html Edited March 24, 2018 by Zap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Glad you found what you needed. Mitch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+chicgamer Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Sorry I didn't see this sooner, or I would have recommended Retro Access. https://retro-access.com/ Here's a link to the Sophia cable they have: https://retro-access.com/products/db9-to-scart-for-atari-5200-sophia-board 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zap! Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 Sorry I didn't see this sooner, or I would have recommended Retro Access. https://retro-access.com/ Here's a link to the Sophia cable they have: https://retro-access.com/products/db9-to-scart-for-atari-5200-sophia-board I tried them, they are out of stock. In fact every single item they sell is out of stock. They have gone completely MIA, and I even wrote to them with no response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zap! Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 Glad you found what you needed. Mitch Well, my fear has come true. The cable which they made was untested, and it didn't work. I posted about it here and haven't gotten any solutions yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARKHEFFNER Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Let me know if anybody can locate the DB 9 cable to Scart cable for Atari 5200 Sophia board ? Retro Access is always TB announced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Is the 5200 version different from the 8-bit versions when it comes to the DE9 pinout of the cable? Like Zap! wrote the other year, he provided Cool Novelties with the different pinouts so they have two versions of the cable depending on which board revision you have. Rev A: https://coolnovelties.co.uk/coolnovelties/atari-800-1200-65xe-130xe/309-atari-sophia-rgb-mod-board-revision-a-to-scart-cable-0705693506401.html Rev B: https://coolnovelties.co.uk/coolnovelties/atari-800-1200-65xe-130xe/307-atari-sophia-rgb-mod-board-revision-b-to-scart-cable-0705693506395.html If ordering from the UK is not an option for you, I haven't checked other solutions. At least Cool Novelties seem to charge less than 1/3 of what Retro Access does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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