Shift838 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 I'm not real clear on how to calculate the required wattage of resistor required when wiring up a voltage divider. I know how to wire one up and I have tested it with 1/4 watt resistors. But I want to make sure I have the correct wattage. I wire up 12v --> 470ohm-->150 ohm --> ground | | 2.9v I'll get 2.9 volts from the circuit, exactly what I want. so do I need 1/4 or 1/2 watt resistors? well i'm not real clear. Any one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+FALCOR4 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Shift838, use the voltage drop across the 470ohm resistor for that calculation and the the node voltage at your takeoff node (2.9v) for the 15ohm resistor. So; (12-2.9)^2 / 470 = .18 watts. (2.9)^2 / 150 = .06 watts. If I did my math correctly. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgeld Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 (edited) how much current are you sucking though it http://www.bowdenshobbycircuits.info/r2.htm Edited April 8, 2018 by Osgeld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 What are you using the 2.9V for? It will measure as 2.9V if you measure it with a multimeter, but if you draw any appreciable current from it then it will upset the voltage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+FALCOR4 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Ah, good point! I assumed that is was in place and drawing current. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senior_falcon Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 You might consider using a voltage regulator instead of a voltage divider. With a voltage regulator you get a constant voltage regardless of the load. As noted above, a voltage divider will give a different output depending on how much current is drawn by the load. There are many possibilities; here are two 3 volt regulators: LP2950-30LP up to 100mA outputMCP1827S-3002E/AB up to 1.5A output The data sheets show the use of capacitors. In some applications the regulators are a little unstable and the caps control that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgeld Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 yea a divider is ok for making a reference voltage but anything but a tiny load and you start dealing with watts of power and the voltage will start going all over the place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift838 Posted April 9, 2018 Author Share Posted April 9, 2018 Shift838, use the voltage drop across the 470ohm resistor for that calculation and the the node voltage at your takeoff node (2.9v) for the 15ohm resistor. So; (12-2.9)^2 / 470 = .18 watts. (2.9)^2 / 150 = .06 watts. If I did my math correctly. Hope this helps. your math is right. That's what I came up with, but since I was not sure I wanted a few extra brains to help. So with those figures a 1/4 watt for each of the resistors should be sufficient, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgeld Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 your math is right. That's what I came up with, but since I was not sure I wanted a few extra brains to help. So with those figures a 1/4 watt for each of the resistors should be sufficient, correct? yes with no current draw on the 2.9v output Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed in SoDak Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) .18 is nudging close to .25, so a half-watter there might be better. Oversize current capacity doesn't matter in resistors, unless space is a concern. If the smaller one runs warm, upgrade it. For the 150 Ohm drawing .06, even 1/8-watt should be fine, or use what ya got in the bin. -Ed Edited April 9, 2018 by Ed in SoDak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apersson850 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 If you don't want to go all in with a voltage regulator, then adding a simple Zener diode to the circuit improves it too. Example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
senior_falcon Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 If you don't want to go all in with a voltage regulator, then adding a simple Zener diode to the circuit improves it too. Yep, that is a very good way to do it. Even easier than the voltage reg and should work just as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+FALCOR4 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Curious, to what circuit/device are you providing the 2.9v? I just want to make sure not to mislead you because what Osgeld and Stuart are saying as a caution are very true. For example, if you ground that node then your 470ohm resistor will have to dissipate .3 watts, that's a worst case scenario. It will be a toasty warm 1/4 watt resistor in that instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift838 Posted April 10, 2018 Author Share Posted April 10, 2018 I ordered 1/2 watts for the 470ohm just to be safe. the 2.9 volts is going to the SCART interface. it requires 1 to 3v of power to put the monitor in RGB mode. I did a recalculation and dropped the 150 ohm to a 100 ohm to pull the voltage down to about 2.1 volts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift838 Posted April 10, 2018 Author Share Posted April 10, 2018 Curious, to what circuit/device are you providing the 2.9v? I just want to make sure not to mislead you because what Osgeld and Stuart are saying as a caution are very true. For example, if you ground that node then your 470ohm resistor will have to dissipate .3 watts, that's a worst case scenario. It will be a toasty warm 1/4 watt resistor in that instance. 1/4 watt should be ok for the 100 ohm though I believe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdownita Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Not sure what you are trying to do but just in case: http://members.optusnet.com.au/eviltim/gamescart/gamescart.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift838 Posted April 10, 2018 Author Share Posted April 10, 2018 Not sure what you are trying to do but just in case: http://members.optusnet.com.au/eviltim/gamescart/gamescart.htm something similar but making a board to for the myarc Geneve 9640 to be able to hook up to SCART monitors and SCART Upscalers with standard cabling. No more soldering! you can read and see the final retentions of the prototype design that has been sent off this week to get made. here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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