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#1 --- Ω --- OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Apr 14, 2018 6:10 PM

I was wondering if any TI historians out there have an answer for this question...

 

Who or what is responsible for the WHITE on BLUE display used in many programs & utilities?

 

Did the TI-Writer default settings set the standard?  Was it another program?

 

Regardless or the answer, I've always liked that color combination on the TI.



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Posted Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:53 PM

It seems like a logical choice as they work so well together.  Though I have to say I became rather attached to light blue on dark blue :roll:  (no nonchalant whistling or kicking dust emoticon.)



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Posted Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:03 PM

I've never liked the white/gray on blue. Before the F18A, my childhood TI was used with that RF modulator and a 13" TV.

There was too much bleed. I've always preferred cyan background with black text, as in TI BASIC.

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Posted Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:41 PM

I've always preferred cyan background with black text, as in TI BASIC.

 

No joke, this is my command line prompt.

 

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Posted Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:44 PM

Ok, OLD CS1, consider yourself copied!

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Posted Sat Apr 14, 2018 8:52 PM

 

No joke, this is my command line prompt.

 

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LOL which is why RXB does the same thing as TI Basic edit mode but in RXB  program mode.



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Posted Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:19 PM

I tried it Ohm/Omega's way.

 

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Eh, I dunno. :)



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Posted Sat Apr 14, 2018 9:27 PM

I tried it Ohm/Omega's way.

 

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Eh, I dunno. icon_smile.gif

 

It's great!  Highly legible, but not blinding at night time.



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Posted Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:32 PM

I always liked the black on green that is the default when BASIC programs run.  Also the white on blue of the E/A.  And finally the black on brown/yellow of the Adventure games.  Those colors have influenced my color choices in quite a few editors of the years.  I also like green or amber on black defaults from systems like the Apple ][ and IBM BASIC and DOS.



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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:49 AM

It's great!  Highly legible, but not blinding at night time.


What is this 'night time' you speak of? Do you mean engineering time?

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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:55 AM

Seems like many of the old standby programs such as Funnelweb, DM1000, Archiver and others chose cyan/white and it worked on my TV. so that's what I chose for my own utility/business programs. Except my darkroom timer was something on black for reduced screen illumination (with a saved Preferences file to change that if one wanted).

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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:35 AM

Interestingly, when I used Extended Basic the first time, I found it "professional" to let the background stay on cyan instead of turning green. Maybe I thought that this green backdrop was done as a favor to beginners, so that they could see that the program is executing - but I was not a beginner anymore... (just my thoughts from those days; I was 13 years old  :-D  ).

 

I also quickly accepted the white on blue style of Editor/Assembler; it looked nice on the TV, less bright. But maybe our experiences differ with the TV system, PAL vs. NTSC.



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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:10 AM

when i use SecureCRT for my SSH network device sessions, i changed the terminal to green-on-black pretty quick- it's WAY easier on my eyes.

 

although i am intrigued now to change my command prompt to black-on-cyan ;)



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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:45 AM

when i use SecureCRT for my SSH network device sessions, i changed the terminal to green-on-black pretty quick- it's WAY easier on my eyes.

 

although i am intrigued now to change my command prompt to black-on-cyan ;)

 

There is a trick to using a different font in the command line, too.  I have used TI and Amiga fonts before, but none of the CBM fonts seem to work for me. Fun stuff.

 

My SSH sessions are cyan on black. Easy on the eyes.



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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:05 AM

Interestingly, many default settings for Linux shell windows have a dark background, which I find uncomfortable. I rather use a neutral white background with black characters, just like here in the forum.

 

On the contrary, I found the dark background with bright letters cause nasty afterimages.

 

(Bad thing is that some setting for highlighting seem to assume you have a dark background, e.g. outputting yellow text on my white background)



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Posted Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:56 PM

I like white on blue for 40-column stuff, but not so much for 80 columns.  For 80 columns I prefer blue on white.

 

Black on gray is easiest on my eyes for the 3x7 font of the 64-column editor in fbForth 2.0 (and TI Forth before it).  The white on black of the original TI Forth 64-column editor was horrible—especially, with the RF modulator.  It was nearly impossible to read.  The eye strain would make my head hurt.

 

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Posted Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:53 AM

 

No joke, this is my command line prompt.

 

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Is there a trick to getting Command Prompt to recognize the font?  I downloaded the font and edited the registry to make it a 'default' but it didn't show.  

 

I got my fonts from 99er.net, if that helps.



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Posted Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:35 AM

They have to be a particular format with particular parameters. I am really not certain on the specifics, nor am I certain where I got my font but I will make it available for you to try out.  It might be as simple as all characters must have exactly the same width.



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Posted Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:57 AM

Cool, that gets me in the right direction.  i can google what Command Prompt requires in regards to that and go from there.

 

If you get some time and can shoot me your font, that's cool too.  :)

 

Thank you!



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Posted Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:04 AM

aha, it looks like maybe they need to be monospaced.  i'll dig into this as i have some time (haha) at work.

 

https://www.techrepu...command-prompt/



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Posted Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:59 PM

I poked around the font and found it was sourced here:

 

http://www.dreamcodex.com/fonts.php



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Posted Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:29 PM

I poked around the font and found it was sourced here:

 

http://www.dreamcodex.com/fonts.php

excellent, thanks!  i downloaded the font, but havent had a chance to monkey with it yet.  i think ill subject my home pc to the change before my work one- itd take me forever to get my work machine back up (but i do have a spare).






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