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#1 Mockduck OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue May 15, 2018 8:43 PM

Hello! I wanted to start a new and separate thread about the in-development Atari VCS that would focus on the latest information. My intention is to keep the original post updated so folks looking for a quick overview can find it.
 
This thread is not meant to provide an outlet for people to bash the current Atari company, nor insult people who might be interested in this mid-spec PC for your television. People are welcome to have their opinion, and we've certainly seen a lot of varying opinions on the legitimacy of the console, but ultimately time will tell. There's a massive thread here that has long served as a place for people to criticize the current Atari, and moderators have largely allowed the thread to be used as an anti-VCS rant and troll thread, so if you want to talk about how much you dislike the new VCS, or bash the people interested in it, please consider doing so there. 
 
The FAQ:
 
Who:
 
The new Atari VCS is being created by Atari Interactive, the current holders of the Atari license and brand, through a limited liability corporation called Atari Gamebox LLC. The company was renamed to Atari Interactive from Infogrames in 2003. Wikipedia Link
 
What:
 
The Atari VCS is aimed at bringing a blend of a PC-like experience and a multimedia home center to your television, similar to other current consoles on the market like the Playstation 4 and Xbox One. Atari claims it will provide both a modern and classic gaming experience in addition to being a place to watch video services and streamed content. 
 
The project began its public life in June 2017 under the name Ataribox, and the company initially intended to offer an IndieGoGo funding campaign in December of 2017. However, that funding campaign was halted at the last minute (PC Gamer Link) in order to further develop the console and controllers. At the 2018 Game Developers Conference, Atari Interactive gave attendees with press credentials an opportunity to view a model of the console and retro controller, but did not have video to display, nor allow for hands-on demonstrations. Shortly before the GDC began, Atari Interactive formally announced the now-renamed Atari VCS in a press release here.
 
In the March 19th announcement, the Atari VCS prototype was shared through promotional photographs, and the company mentioned that it would contain both a Classic Joystick with an updated 2600-controller-type look, and a Modern Controller, which looks similar in design and functionality to an Xbox-style controller. The company announced that it would have pre-order information in April.
 
In late April, Atari Interactive issued a new press release (here) announcing that an IndieGogo fundraising campaign would begin on May 30th, and feature a time-limited Atari VCS Collector's Edition that included a retro-inspired wood front. In addition to the Collector's Edition, the company has said it will offer for pre-order the Atari VCS Onyx, which looks similar to the Collector's Edition, but has a black "Vader"-like front. 
 
The company claims the VCS is being designed in California by Atari. Atari has partnered with AMD to provide a custom Radeon Graphics Technology processor (x86) for the VCS which will offer 4k resolution, HDR, 60 FPS content, onboard and expandable storage options, dual-band WiFi, Bluetooth 5.0, and USB 3.0 support. The company claims it will provide a complete list of product specs with the pre-sale on May 30th. The company stated in a GDC FAQ that the console will have an, "x86 PC architecture with a proprietary Linux OS that will allow for a flexible content mix and give customers access to interact with the whole internet. This means more games, media and streaming content, as well as communication with other PCs and the ability to fully customize the experience." The company has also said they believe the console will offer Steam and other Linux-based storefront support.
 
The VCS will also include the compilation Atari Vault, currently available for PC, which features more than 100 classic games, both Atari arcade games and 2600 games.
 
The console is compatible with most standard PC and bluetooth controllers. From the IndiGoGo page:

 

USE YOUR OWN PERIPHERALS AND ACCESSORIES

 

Atari VCS provides universal peripheral connectivity, so it also works just as well with your other PC input devices, including:

  • Bluetooth and USB game controllers
  • Mouse and Keyboard
  • External Storage
  • Webcams
  • Microphones
  • External Speakers
  • Headphones

The listed tech specs are (from the IndieGoGo page):

 

Specification* Measurement 
Unit Dimensions    14.5" x 5.3" x 1.6"
Unit Weight     3 lbs.
Materials    Plastic, Metal, Wood
Operating System    Linux OS based on Ubuntu (Linux Kernel 4.10)
Compatible Systems    Linux
Power    Low TDP architecture - Less Heat & Noise
Connections    HDMI 2.0, 2.4/5GHz Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 5.0, Gigabit Ethernet, 4xUSB 3.0
External Inputs    Classic Joystick, Modern Controller, Microphone
Storage    32GB eMMC, external HD, SD card 
RAM    4GB DDR4 RAM UPDATED: On 7/15/18 in an interview on Medium.com, System Architect Rob Wyatt confirmed they were updating it to 8 GB RAM. See Misc. for the link.
Memory    32GB eMMC
CPU    Bristol Ridge A10
GPU    Radeon R7
HDCP      Integration HDCP 2.2
Second Screen (Screencasting)      Yes
Cloud Storage    Yes. Additional Service Offering
Required Internet Connection    Not for classic gaming but required to access all features 
Cross Game Chat    Skype, Discord, etc.
Voice Commands    4-front facing mic array
Subscription Needed?    No. Includes cloud and other services.
Live Streaming    Yes with Twitch.tv
Mouse & Keyboard Support    Yes

 

The controllers are both Bluetooth and USB-C connected. The Classic Joystick and Modern Controller are being developed in partnership with Power A, a third-party provider of controllers, accessories, and power units for most modern consoles. 

 

On June 27th, 2018, Atari announced that they have contracted Rob Wyatt and his company Tin Giant to provide platform architecture support. 

 

When:

 

Updated 6/30/18: The campaign has ended (sorta) with $2,985,205 raised. HOWEVER, the campaign has shifted into an InDemand project on IndieGoGo, meaning that people can still back the project indefinitely. After an initial large number of people backing, the remainder of the campaign struggled to get much backing at all, indicating that the pool of those interested and willing to back the project went in at the start, and Atari struggled to convince others to back for the remainder of the campaign. The listed timeline for the project remains unchanged.

 

Updated: The May 30th IndieGoGo launch happened, and quickly hit its extremely-low flexible funding goal of $100,000. The campaign has so far raised more than $2 million. There is a limited-time offer (until 6/4/18) of a $199 black "Onyx" console with no accessories, and a $299 limited-time (6/11/18) Collector's edition featuring a wood grain version with a classic controller. Other packages are available, and the controllers both classic and modern are available separately.
 

Update 6/25/18: With four days left in the campaign, Atari has raised a little more than $2.9 Million from a little more than 11,000 backers. While there was a lot of interest and backing activity in the first week, the number of backers slowed dramatically, and has remained very low.

The IndiGoGo campaign will last for about a month, until about 7/1. 

 

The IndieGogo page lists a July 2019 delivery date for backers, and has a Q2 2019 "Pre-Orders Arrive" date on the page's timeline. 
 
Where:
 
The IndieGoGo page can be found here.
 
Links to AtariVCS official sites
 
Facebook
Twitter
Instagram
YouTube
Web Site
 
Why:
 
Atari Interactive stated in a FAQ provided to the press at GDC:
 
What makes the Atari VCS different from Nintendo’s NES or SNES Classic retro consoles? Or even the Ouya? Also, why do we need another microconsole?
 
The Atari VCS is a completely new Atari device designed for today’s living room that will include PC and online entertainment-driven features that distinguish it from these other products. Atari VCS will of course serve up lots of classic content. But it will do and play much more, and can complement other “retro-boxes” or “microconsoles” that consumers may already have in their homes.
 
Why release a new console after a twenty year pause in a market now dominated by Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft?
 
The original Atari 2600 Video Computer System reinvented the home entertainment experience more than 40 years ago by transforming our relationship with our TVs. We saw an opportunity to do that again with a new Atari VCS that brings PC versatility to the living room.
 
How:
 
There is a lot of community speculation as to the legitimacy of Atari's plans, but it is likely the company is hoping to garner enough interest that it can raise the necessary funds during the IndieGoGo campaign to build and deliver the console. The company has stated the console will offer both classic Atari in addition to more modern gaming, along with streaming media network support. While the company used GDC to communicate with various game development companies, few announcements have so far been made outside of the intention to release Jeff Minter's Tempest 4000, which arrives this summer to other consoles.
 
In regard to development, Atari stated in its GDC FAQ, "Atari will publish, verify and deliver first and third party game IP and other software through the proprietary Atari VCS UI. Users will also have a “sandbox” with the ability to bring a wide variety of outside and “homebrew” content to the platform."
 

Atari has this to say from its IndieGoGo page regarding developer submissions:

 

There are a few steps to getting your game submitted and ready for sale on the Atari VCS. Below is a high-level preliminary overview of the key steps in submitting your game for distribution: 

 

We will ask you to complete and sign the online agreement; once we have the business items out of the way, you will need to tell us all about your game. We will need to know the standard details for the title – things like game type, languages, release date, ratings, etc. via the online submission form.  Once the product information has been supplied, you can upload the latest build of your game to the Atari VCS submissions portal.

 

After you submit your game, we will review and test your game for compatibility, and check that it is working correctly on the platform. We will also review your game to be sure it contains no objectionable content such as pornography, hate speech, offensive content, malware, illegal, libelous material or content that you do not have rights to. The Atari VCS team will work to move through this process as quickly as possible and will notify you when your game is approved for release. From there, and if approved, the game will be distributed to legions of new fans across the globe!

 

Since the console is Linux-based with a standard x86 architecture, USB 3.0, and Bluetooth support, it is likely that the modding community will be able to make use of the hardware as well. From the IndieGoGo page they say:

 

Access the Linux Sandbox, add more storage via cloud or USB, run multiple operating systems at once, load Homebrew games or customize your own unique platform. 
 
I will endeavor to keep this original post updated, and would again encourage people to not use this thread to serve as another place to bash Atari and the new VCS. I have also attached some press release images and the GDC FAQ. The current Press Kit including images not linked below can be found here. Thanks!

 

Miscellaneous updates and info:

 

Atari Connected Devices COO Michael Arzt did a pretty interesting (and long!) video interview with Gamertag Radio here for Episode 767, published June 3rd, 2018.

 

A newly-released Q&A on Medium.com comes from recently-hired System Architect Rob Wyatt. It's got some interesting info for people looking to get into the tech detail, how open the console can be, how it can be used, and how people can develop/release their games on it:

 

On other controller support: 

 

"To ease the burden for applications using game controllers, the AtariOS will have standardized controller support which includes a built-in controller remapping tool. This tool will allow you to remap physical controller buttons to logical standardized buttons, remap analog inputs and apply curves to get the exact response and feel you want, as well as allow for the “lefty” joystick that some have asked us for. This tool will let you use any controller and the applications always see a standard controller with your own button mapping. The button mapping data can be stored per controller, per user and/or per game and can also be exported and shared with other users."

 

Possible AR/VR Support:

 

"Not much to say at this time, other than we have AR/VR plans but it will be an after-launch feature. More info to come on this somewhere down the road."

 

On development for it:

 

"We won’t have dedicated development hardware. You won’t need it. Any Atari VCS device can be a development kit. All you will have to do is sign up to our developer program, download the SDK and start creating. If you don’t want to develop in native code then common game engine platforms will be available for the VCS.

 

To get an application into the Atari Store there will be a few technical requirements and rules as to what is permissible. As with other curated stores indecent and offensive material will be prohibited. All content will be appropriately age rated and subject to parental controls to ensure users of all ages only see decent and quality applications. Atari is a neutral partner and we have no say in what applications get developed or when an application gets released, you are free to develop any application you like as long as it’s within our guidelines.

 

At this time the developer program is not open yet and it will come online in the coming months. If you have an application in mind you can start today, make sure it runs on Linux at HD resolution using standard runtime libraries, the changes from this to the AtariOS will be minimal and mostly related to application startup and application packaging. In the very near future we will release documentation on the AtariOS which will detail all the runtime components we support as well as libraries for Linux that mimic the AtariOS."

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Edited by Mockduck, Mon Jul 30, 2018 3:54 PM.


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Posted Tue May 15, 2018 9:30 PM

Just curious if an SDK has been officially mentioned .. not just rumored? I can't find a press release mentioning Steam.  I guess it is safe to assume Steamworks SDK  and any other Linux API ...gaming or otherwise.  I am seriously interested in this when it's $49 on clearance if it ever ships.


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Posted Tue May 15, 2018 9:38 PM

I will admit to be quite curious about this console.  I do like the design too.  It's a nice homage to the original.



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Posted Tue May 15, 2018 10:19 PM

I might be interested in one of their slick looking joystick controllers if this comes to fruition, and possibly buy a second, so I can hack it with a 9-pin port. :evil:

 

I'm not suggesting the prognosis is great at this time, but we may at least have an Ouya 2.0 on our hands. I did have fun with the first one. :P



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Posted Wed May 16, 2018 12:01 AM

So is this a steam streamer or can it run my steam games without using a different PC?

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Posted Wed May 16, 2018 2:52 AM

Atari should concentrate on the software offerings for this console. More and more these days I personally find more interest in that, the content, then I do the hardware. Future nostalgia grows from the software, too.

 

The hardware is just a means to an end. A NUC, STB, R-Pi, mid-range laptop, they are all in the same category. There is little excitement there. So their chance to shine will need to come from software.
 

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It will be interesting to see if this has the G-series Vega chip, the one with the active interconnects. Because that's intel's special gig with amd. Intel even built a mini-PC to show it off. And intel, furthermore, "stole" the amd engineer that came up with it.


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Posted Wed May 16, 2018 6:20 AM

Thank you very much for this thread.

The opening Post is perfect. Every information you need and so well organized and on point.

You are great, sir.



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Posted Wed May 16, 2018 7:11 AM

Just to clarify, it is being created by Atari Gamebox LLC.

 

https://www.bizapedi...amebox-llc.html

https://opencorporat...s/us_wi/A065515

 

This will limit the liability of Atari Interactive (Atari SA).

 

Current pricing in the news is $199 for just the base, no controllers.



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Posted Wed May 16, 2018 7:29 AM

Here is the link to the Indiegogo campaign for the Presale- https://www.indiegog...ore/coming_soon

 

 

For conversation sake- although completely speculative in relation to the console at the moment- but it is confirmed that Virt-U work for Atari now, as well as Atari bringing one of the founders of Ethereum onboard for Atari's Token project.

 

How that plays out with the console is anyone's guess. I'm thinking there will be a lot of surprised people when this all plays out.


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Posted Wed May 16, 2018 7:31 AM

Thank you for creating this.  I'm interested in seeing what comes of this, but I can't wade into that other thread anymore.. 



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Posted Wed May 16, 2018 9:32 AM

Just curious if an SDK has been officially mentioned .. not just rumored? I can't find a press release mentioning Steam.  I guess it is safe to assume Steamworks SDK  and any other Linux API ...gaming or otherwise.  I am seriously interested in this when it's $49 on clearance if it ever ships.

 
I have not heard nor seen mention of an SDK at this point. AtariVCS.com does have a link for developers in its Contact section to communicate with the company to learn more about the product, stating, "Be the first to learn more about our platform". This seems to indicate that a formal SDK is not yet available. Since Atari has said that as of GDC its final hardware specs were still being formalized, it is likely there will not be an SDK until that is decided.
 

So is this a steam streamer or can it run my steam games without using a different PC?


So far it looks like the intention is for the AtariVCS to run Steam natively, without needing a second PC. Whether it will also support Steam streaming remains unclear. In the GDC FAQ it states:

 

Will the Atari VCS support any current storefronts such as Steam? Will Atari announce its own proprietary storefront?

 

Atari VCS will allow users to engage with a wide assortment of applications and content available to Linux users. Atari anticipates Steam and other Linux storefronts will work on VCS, but obviously cannot guarantee universal compatibility with all third party applications.

 

Atari Connected Devices COO Michael Arzt told Robert Workman in an interview for comicbook.com

 

Arzt also mentioned the possibility of the Atari VCS working with other storefronts, like Steam. “Atari VCS will allow users to engage with a wide assortment of applications and content available to Linux users. Atari anticipates Steam and other Linux storefronts will work on VCS, but obviously cannot guarantee universal compatibility with all third party applications. Atari VCS will have a proprietary UI to browse, buy, stream, download, play and save content, including games, video, music, social and communication apps.”

 

 



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Posted Wed May 16, 2018 9:34 AM

Here is the link to the Indiegogo campaign for the Presale- https://www.indiegog...ore/coming_soon

 

 

For conversation sake- although completely speculative in relation to the console at the moment- but it is confirmed that Virt-U work for Atari now, as well as Atari bringing one of the founders of Ethereum onboard for Atari's Token project.

 

How that plays out with the console is anyone's guess. I'm thinking there will be a lot of surprised people when this all plays out.

 

Cool! I hadn't seen that link before. Will add to the OP.



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Posted Wed May 16, 2018 12:48 PM

All right, I can't believe I can't figure this out, but how do I Edit a post? I don't see any kind of Edit feature. Trying on both Chrome and Firefox.



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Posted Wed May 16, 2018 1:04 PM

All right, I can't believe I can't figure this out, but how do I Edit a post? I don't see any kind of Edit feature. Trying on both Chrome and Firefox.

Non-subscribers can edit posts up to one hour after they are created. Subscribers have up to 30 days. See here.



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Posted Wed May 16, 2018 2:27 PM

Non-subscribers can edit posts up to one hour after they are created. Subscribers have up to 30 days. See here.

 

Thanks. I am now a subscriber. I also changed my display name to finally have my AtariAge name match the gamer tag I use elsewhere. 



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Posted Wed May 16, 2018 2:33 PM

Thanks for subscribing!



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Posted Wed May 16, 2018 5:16 PM

It'd be interesting to know who says they won't buy the VCSii and who actually does.  I'll probably get one on the 30th (assuming they don'c change it) just so I have a box to put games on.



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Posted Wed May 16, 2018 8:23 PM

Data are skewed- everyone talking trash is denying that they will buy it, but they will buy it.


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Posted Wed May 16, 2018 8:38 PM

I agree that the other thread has outlived its usefulness, but there still has not been a good reason given for why the VCS should be released in the first place. As such, I think the theory that the people providing valid reasons for not considering it a target for purchase (including me) are somehow bluffing and will purchase it anyway seems rather silly to me. Exactly why would we do that if that basic question hasn't been answered? It's obviously up to Atari to come up with a reason (and preferably reasons) between now and the launch of the crowd-funding campaign. I'm skeptical they'll come up with something since they haven't come up with a single valid reason (for many of us) to date, but there's certainly always a chance.



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Posted Wed May 16, 2018 9:00 PM

I guess we will all see in 2 weeks eh?


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Posted Wed May 16, 2018 9:03 PM

I guess we will all see in 2 weeks eh?


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Yep. And if no good reason is given, it will no doubt remain status quo for both the skeptics and the true believers anyway.



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Posted Wed May 16, 2018 10:56 PM

I see this space pretty crowded. Between Retron77, Dreamcade Replay, DIY R-Pi, Intel x86 STB NUC, and existing traditional consoles like from MS, N, and Sony.. They're going to need to differentiate themselves (somehow) through software. I just don't see how, yet.

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Posted Thu May 17, 2018 12:27 AM

I will buy both versions.

The Onyx and the wooden Console.

The Onyx Console i will give my brother for use.



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Posted Thu May 17, 2018 4:34 AM

Thank you for creating this.  I'm interested in seeing what comes of this, but I can't wade into that other thread anymore.. 

 

I'm not optimistic at all about Ataribox but finding any new info in that other thread is such a chore. And I'm sorry, I try to keep a good sense of humor, but that "taco meme" was lame from the start and is just tiring now. It would be nice to have it contained to that thread.


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Posted Thu May 17, 2018 7:04 AM

 

I'm not optimistic at all about Ataribox but finding any new info in that other thread is such a chore. And I'm sorry, I try to keep a good sense of humor, but that "taco meme" was lame from the start and is just tiring now. It would be nice to have it contained to that thread.

 

That's because there is no "new info."






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