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#1 RandyFemrite OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu May 31, 2018 6:28 PM




#2 rayik OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu May 31, 2018 9:04 PM

+1

I have both OSSC and Frameister XRGB mini and picture is really nice through either one.

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Posted Fri Jun 1, 2018 2:32 AM

I picked up this combo recently and am blown away by the picture. Doom looks bad to me (regardless of which upscaler) but hoping to find a setting that will enhance the picture to crt quality or close, anyway.

 

For future ref, here's where I got my SCART

Version without "RCA / PHONO Audio Breakout whilst still maintaining audio through SCART"



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Posted Fri Jun 1, 2018 5:50 AM

Yeah I got the retrogamingcables scart lead.
The Jag has extremely clean RGB and looks awesome on my 17" JVC DTV or my OSSC.

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Posted Fri Jun 1, 2018 9:00 PM

Apparently there is a bit of controversy concerning the CSYNC Jaguar cable from retrogamingcables.

https://shmups.syste...Jaguar#p1319255

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Posted Sat Jun 2, 2018 12:44 AM

Oh great...
*switches off Jag*

I'll be sending that sucker back today so it doesn't blow my shit sky high.
That leaves me with RF...

Edited by Gummy Bear, Sat Jun 2, 2018 1:38 AM.


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Posted Sat Jun 2, 2018 3:47 PM

I’ve bought two these and very happy with each. This is actually the sync-on-luma cable Wolff is using in video.
I originally bought it for the “no buzz” feature (sound system was buzzing with Blue Lightening cranked using RGC scart) but happy to find out safe for my Jag with flawless picture.

https://www.ebay.com...872.m2749.l2649

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Posted Mon Jun 4, 2018 5:28 AM

I don't think our jags were in any danger. Just our hugely expensive crt monitors or ossc's :)

Thanks for the heads up though man.
I was oblivious.

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Posted Wed Jun 6, 2018 6:58 AM

Yeah the csync line needs 680 Ohms resistor and 220uF cap, which I mentioned in the other thread on that subject. But yeah, you can get amazing picture quality from the Jaguar with optimal timing in the OSSC. Here are some lossless screen caps I took while developing the OSSC timings:

https://i.imgur.com/WLrZGSk.png

 

https://i.imgur.com/PU5WG3L.png

 

https://i.imgur.com/GUZL71s.png



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Posted Fri Jun 8, 2018 12:20 AM

Hmm, this is the cable I have; https://www.ebay.co....tm/251393709151



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Posted Fri Jun 8, 2018 5:01 AM

Hmm, this is the cable I have; https://www.ebay.co....tm/251393709151

 

Open both ends and check to see if he put a resistor and cap on the csync line, if not, you should add it yourself if you're able to use a soldering station. If not, don't use it any more, inform the seller he needs to add series 680 Ohms resistor and series 220uF cap on the csync line for proper attenuation. If he tries to argue, then he's someone not to do business with again. This has been thoroughly 'vetted' information.



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Posted Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:07 PM

Anyone with experiences of a PAL Jaguar using Framemeister? 



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Posted Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:57 AM

Open both ends and check to see if he put a resistor and cap on the csync line, if not, you should add it yourself if you're able to use a soldering station. If not, don't use it any more, inform the seller he needs to add series 680 Ohms resistor and series 220uF cap on the csync line for proper attenuation. If he tries to argue, then he's someone not to do business with again. This has been thoroughly 'vetted' information.


I emailed the seller and he said that the latest revision he was working on would have this fixed, so I have several unplayed Jag games sitting in a box until I can order another cable...

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Posted Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:59 AM

I’ve bought two these and very happy with each. This is actually the sync-on-luma cable Wolff is using in video.
I originally bought it for the “no buzz” feature (sound system was buzzing with Blue Lightening cranked using RGC scart) but happy to find out safe for my Jag with flawless picture.
https://www.ebay.com...872.m2749.l2649

Apparently dorito_bandito no longer sells this cable.

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Posted Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:18 AM

He is in the process of making a new batch as we speak. Hopefully he can chime in here with more info.



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Posted Thu Jun 21, 2018 10:20 AM

Awesome, guy I bought mine from said the same thing, but wasn't sure when he'd get some finished.



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Posted Mon Jun 25, 2018 3:59 AM

Oh great...
*switches off Jag*

I'll be sending that sucker back today so it doesn't blow my shit sky high.
That leaves me with RF...

Well, that turned out to be quite an ordeal...

Sent my original csync cable back to RGC for them to make safe.

Got it back 2 weeks later and it worked great!... as long as it was plugged straight into my monitor. It was no longer detected by my Hydra SCART switch. :(
Which meant my Jag had to sit in the middle of the floor all sad and lonesome instead of on my shelves with the other consoles.

Told RGC about this and he suggested swapping the cable for the composite video as sync version.
So I got my 3rd cable, and it worked great!... until I tried it on the big TV via the OSSC; where an annoying buzz presented itself.

At this point I decided to give it up as a bad job and bled a load of money onto ebay for the official Jag Peritel cable (y'know the one: it's as thick as your leg) which works great!...

It actually does!
Picture and sound are perfect. And no buzz.


But of a shame about RGC in this case.
I have 6 other consoles on those shelves, all with RGC cables and they are all great.
Just a lack of testing on the Jag ones I think.

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Posted Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:09 AM

All I can find on ebay (US one) right now are these; https://www.ebay.com...5wAAOSwPGpafVtnand I'm pretty sure they'd "Brake" the Jaguar.  :P



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Posted Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:48 PM

I use the same setup: OSSC + retrogamingcables Scart cable. It's awesome even on a modern 40" LED TV. I love crisp pixels.



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Posted Mon Jul 9, 2018 3:29 AM

Well, that turned out to be quite an ordeal...

Sent my original csync cable back to RGC for them to make safe.

Got it back 2 weeks later and it worked great!... as long as it was plugged straight into my monitor. It was no longer detected by my Hydra SCART switch. :(
Which meant my Jag had to sit in the middle of the floor all sad and lonesome instead of on my shelves with the other consoles.

Told RGC about this and he suggested swapping the cable for the composite video as sync version.
So I got my 3rd cable, and it worked great!... until I tried it on the big TV via the OSSC; where an annoying buzz presented itself.

At this point I decided to give it up as a bad job and bled a load of money onto ebay for the official Jag Peritel cable (y'know the one: it's as thick as your leg) which works great!...

It actually does!
Picture and sound are perfect. And no buzz.


But of a shame about RGC in this case.
I have 6 other consoles on those shelves, all with RGC cables and they are all great.
Just a lack of testing on the Jag ones I think.

RGC decided to go with composite video and a sync stripper for the way they do 'csync' now. I do not understand why he went that route when all you need is 680 ohms and a 220uF cap on the actual csync line. I was able to get Retro-Access to switch to the 680 + 220uf combo, so at least there you can get a proper csync cable if you're inclined to give them a try.


Edited by Karbuncle, Mon Jul 9, 2018 3:30 AM.


#21 Gummy Bear OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Jul 9, 2018 7:05 AM

I'm completely happy with my official peritel cable.
Also happy that my Jag cable odyssey has ended... :)

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Posted Thu Aug 9, 2018 11:10 AM

Still looking for an available cable, but ran into this on Amazon;  https://www.amazon.c...rds=scart cable

 

Anyone try one of these?  I ask because I have a Genesis with SCART as well as my Jaguar, and probably will eventually set up a couple more consoles this way.



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Posted Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:03 AM

Still looking for an available cable, but ran into this on Amazon;  https://www.amazon.c...rds=scart cable
 
Anyone try one of these?  I ask because I have a Genesis with SCART as well as my Jaguar, and probably will eventually set up a couple more consoles this way.


I used to have one of those before I got my Hydra.
It's a great little thing. Very solid build and fully isolates all feeds.

I would have kept it, but I needed more inputs.





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