RandyFemrite Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayik Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 +1 I have both OSSC and Frameister XRGB mini and picture is really nice through either one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Saturn Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 I picked up this combo recently and am blown away by the picture. Doom looks bad to me (regardless of which upscaler) but hoping to find a setting that will enhance the picture to crt quality or close, anyway. For future ref, here's where I got my SCART Version without "RCA / PHONO Audio Breakout whilst still maintaining audio through SCART" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gummy Bear Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Yeah I got the retrogamingcables scart lead. The Jag has extremely clean RGB and looks awesome on my 17" JVC DTV or my OSSC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyFemrite Posted June 2, 2018 Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 Apparently there is a bit of controversy concerning the CSYNC Jaguar cable from retrogamingcables. https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=62577&p=1319255&hilit=Atari+Jaguar#p1319255 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gummy Bear Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) Oh great... *switches off Jag* I'll be sending that sucker back today so it doesn't blow my shit sky high. That leaves me with RF... Edited June 2, 2018 by Gummy Bear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyFemrite Posted June 2, 2018 Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 I’ve bought two these and very happy with each. This is actually the sync-on-luma cable Wolff is using in video. I originally bought it for the “no buzz” feature (sound system was buzzing with Blue Lightening cranked using RGC scart) but happy to find out safe for my Jag with flawless picture. https://www.ebay.com/itm/ATARI-JAGUAR-RGB-SCART-CABLE-HEAVY-DUTY-INDIVIDUAL-SHIELD-COAX-PREMIUM-NO-BUZZ/332664867941?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gummy Bear Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I don't think our jags were in any danger. Just our hugely expensive crt monitors or ossc's Thanks for the heads up though man. I was oblivious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karbuncle Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Yeah the csync line needs 680 Ohms resistor and 220uF cap, which I mentioned in the other thread on that subject. But yeah, you can get amazing picture quality from the Jaguar with optimal timing in the OSSC. Here are some lossless screen caps I took while developing the OSSC timings:https://i.imgur.com/WLrZGSk.png https://i.imgur.com/PU5WG3L.png https://i.imgur.com/GUZL71s.png 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Hmm, this is the cable I have; https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251393709151 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karbuncle Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Hmm, this is the cable I have; https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251393709151 Open both ends and check to see if he put a resistor and cap on the csync line, if not, you should add it yourself if you're able to use a soldering station. If not, don't use it any more, inform the seller he needs to add series 680 Ohms resistor and series 220uF cap on the csync line for proper attenuation. If he tries to argue, then he's someone not to do business with again. This has been thoroughly 'vetted' information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+slx Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Anyone with experiences of a PAL Jaguar using Framemeister? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Open both ends and check to see if he put a resistor and cap on the csync line, if not, you should add it yourself if you're able to use a soldering station. If not, don't use it any more, inform the seller he needs to add series 680 Ohms resistor and series 220uF cap on the csync line for proper attenuation. If he tries to argue, then he's someone not to do business with again. This has been thoroughly 'vetted' information. I emailed the seller and he said that the latest revision he was working on would have this fixed, so I have several unplayed Jag games sitting in a box until I can order another cable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 I’ve bought two these and very happy with each. This is actually the sync-on-luma cable Wolff is using in video. I originally bought it for the “no buzz” feature (sound system was buzzing with Blue Lightening cranked using RGC scart) but happy to find out safe for my Jag with flawless picture. https://www.ebay.com/itm/ATARI-JAGUAR-RGB-SCART-CABLE-HEAVY-DUTY-INDIVIDUAL-SHIELD-COAX-PREMIUM-NO-BUZZ/332664867941?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 Apparently dorito_bandito no longer sells this cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyFemrite Posted June 21, 2018 Author Share Posted June 21, 2018 He is in the process of making a new batch as we speak. Hopefully he can chime in here with more info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Awesome, guy I bought mine from said the same thing, but wasn't sure when he'd get some finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gummy Bear Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Oh great... *switches off Jag* I'll be sending that sucker back today so it doesn't blow my shit sky high. That leaves me with RF... Well, that turned out to be quite an ordeal... Sent my original csync cable back to RGC for them to make safe. Got it back 2 weeks later and it worked great!... as long as it was plugged straight into my monitor. It was no longer detected by my Hydra SCART switch. Which meant my Jag had to sit in the middle of the floor all sad and lonesome instead of on my shelves with the other consoles. Told RGC about this and he suggested swapping the cable for the composite video as sync version. So I got my 3rd cable, and it worked great!... until I tried it on the big TV via the OSSC; where an annoying buzz presented itself. At this point I decided to give it up as a bad job and bled a load of money onto ebay for the official Jag Peritel cable (y'know the one: it's as thick as your leg) which works great!... It actually does! Picture and sound are perfect. And no buzz. But of a shame about RGC in this case. I have 6 other consoles on those shelves, all with RGC cables and they are all great. Just a lack of testing on the Jag ones I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 All I can find on ebay (US one) right now are these; https://www.ebay.com/itm/JAGUAR-OEM-03-08-X-Type-Parking-Brake-Rear-Cable-C2S51134/151701025066?fits=Make%3AJaguar&epid=1232651679&hash=item235215f12a:g:75wAAOSwPGpafVtnand I'm pretty sure they'd "Brake" the Jaguar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starcat Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I use the same setup: OSSC + retrogamingcables Scart cable. It's awesome even on a modern 40" LED TV. I love crisp pixels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karbuncle Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 (edited) Well, that turned out to be quite an ordeal... Sent my original csync cable back to RGC for them to make safe. Got it back 2 weeks later and it worked great!... as long as it was plugged straight into my monitor. It was no longer detected by my Hydra SCART switch. Which meant my Jag had to sit in the middle of the floor all sad and lonesome instead of on my shelves with the other consoles. Told RGC about this and he suggested swapping the cable for the composite video as sync version. So I got my 3rd cable, and it worked great!... until I tried it on the big TV via the OSSC; where an annoying buzz presented itself. At this point I decided to give it up as a bad job and bled a load of money onto ebay for the official Jag Peritel cable (y'know the one: it's as thick as your leg) which works great!... It actually does! Picture and sound are perfect. And no buzz. But of a shame about RGC in this case. I have 6 other consoles on those shelves, all with RGC cables and they are all great. Just a lack of testing on the Jag ones I think. RGC decided to go with composite video and a sync stripper for the way they do 'csync' now. I do not understand why he went that route when all you need is 680 ohms and a 220uF cap on the actual csync line. I was able to get Retro-Access to switch to the 680 + 220uf combo, so at least there you can get a proper csync cable if you're inclined to give them a try. Edited July 9, 2018 by Karbuncle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gummy Bear Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 I'm completely happy with my official peritel cable. Also happy that my Jag cable odyssey has ended... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Still looking for an available cable, but ran into this on Amazon; https://www.amazon.com/Hama-Scart-Video-Selector-Console/dp/B00006JAUZ/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1533834482&sr=8-15&keywords=scart+cable Anyone try one of these? I ask because I have a Genesis with SCART as well as my Jaguar, and probably will eventually set up a couple more consoles this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gummy Bear Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Still looking for an available cable, but ran into this on Amazon; https://www.amazon.com/Hama-Scart-Video-Selector-Console/dp/B00006JAUZ/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1533834482&sr=8-15&keywords=scart+cable Anyone try one of these? I ask because I have a Genesis with SCART as well as my Jaguar, and probably will eventually set up a couple more consoles this way. I used to have one of those before I got my Hydra. It's a great little thing. Very solid build and fully isolates all feeds. I would have kept it, but I needed more inputs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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