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#1 DavidMil OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:54 PM

I'm looking for a number 3 key cap for my 1200XL.  Best had the plunger assembly, but is out of number '3' caps.  I'm willing to pay (so long as it's

not too high).  There was a time when my oldest son was a teenager that I would have traded him for one.  But those days are 30 years past now...

 

Thanks,

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#2 Paul Westphal ONLINE  

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Posted Wed Jul 18, 2018 10:56 PM

I will look.

#3 bob1200xl OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:16 AM

There are a couple of variations in 1200XL keyboards - can you post a few pictures of the top and bottom of the board?

 

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Posted Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:15 PM

These are some of my 'donor' keyboards. The picture doesn't show very well, but you basically have dull or shiny keytops with white of yellow lettering.

 

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Posted Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:13 PM

There are a couple of variations in 1200XL keyboards


I seriously never knew this. The 1200XL was officially on the market for, what, less than a year? Very surprising that there could be multiple keyboard styles in such a short lifespan.

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Posted Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:34 PM

I figured the yellowing was because of the age and sunlight.  But I have seen dull and shiny ones.  I've actually seen ones with different springs in them as well.  Mostly early vs late runs of the 1200XL.



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Posted Thu Jul 19, 2018 6:36 PM

I figured the yellowing was because of the age and sunlight.  But I have seen dull and shiny ones.  I've actually seen ones with different springs in them as well.  Mostly early vs late runs of the 1200XL.

 

Huh. Me too. Now I need to take a closer look at my 1200XL keyboards and compare.



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Posted Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:08 PM

I figured the yellowing was because of the age and sunlight.

Ditto



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Posted Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:50 PM

I have 3 1200XL's but they are all identical keyboards, I had no idea there were multiple types either. As to missing key caps, on of my keyboards is a salvage, but instead of saving it for parts, I decided to mate it to my extra 1200XL mobo, which was also originally for parts, but seeing how rare 1200XL's are, I decided to save both, and now I just need a case. But anyway, I had to repair two keys on it, and I used 2 key caps from a parts 600XL keyboard I have, and though they don't match mechanically, I modified used hot glue to attach them to the 1200XL keyboard. So two keys are textured, but it's a working keyboard and doesn't look too bad.Using hot glue for the job, it's reversible if I ever come across proper key caps. Below is a picture of the keyboard and a link to the thread I did covering it's restoration. See starting at post #10 for more pictures and descriptions. No, that "V" key cap is not an upside-down "A" it's just glare! ;)

 

http://atari.boards....restoration-101

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Posted Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:50 PM

Are they all Mitsumi?

 

Edit: typo.


Edited by Kyle22, Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:51 PM.


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Posted Thu Jul 19, 2018 9:55 PM

Mine is a Mitsumi also.  Here are the pics...

Besides getting some new plungers from Best I also got a new Mylar and 11 new aluminum covers for the function keys. 

David

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Posted Thu Jul 19, 2018 10:45 PM

I ordered a complete set of aluminum covers for one of my 1200XL keyboards too, I haven't installed them yet though. They will be installed at the very last, after I'm done with any mods, upgrades or repairs, to avoid them getting scratched.



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Posted Fri Jul 20, 2018 8:29 PM

I can't tell at this point what Atari did and what time/exposure did, but there are some changes in the keyboards.

 

They are all mitsumi.

 

Some have short, black flat cables. These seem to be older and usually have dull caps, although your k/b seems to have white letters.

 

The newer k/bs have longer grey cables and white keys.

 

At any rate, I can send you a keycap and you can decide how close we got... pick a color!

 

Bob



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Posted Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:00 AM

I'm going to have to get back to you tomorrow on the color.  Under white light they appear to be white, but under yellow light (warm white fluorescent)

lights they appear very slightly yellow.  So tomorrow I'm going to take this keyboard outside and look at it under sunlight.  I'll let you know tomorrow.

 

Thanks so much!

DavidMil  



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Posted Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:36 AM

I have a 1200XL keyboard question, guys. Do the keycaps simply pull straight up with a typical key-puller? Or is there some trick to get them off? I've made due cleaning my keyboards with alcohol wipes through and around the keys but never removed them. If I can pull them without damage that would be good to know!



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Posted Sat Jul 21, 2018 5:37 AM

They pull straight off, but be careful not to break the plunger.

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Posted Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:08 AM

I always remove the PCB and pry the plunger side with my trusty curved-nose  tweezers. It gives you a much better leverage than working from the keycap side. (for me, anyway)

 

You ought to be able to clean and lube the keys without removing the cap...

 

You can remove a broken keystem with a probe after you drill out the center of the stem. Then, you can re-use the cap.

 

Bob

 

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Posted Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:15 PM

I can't tell at this point what Atari did and what time/exposure did, but there are some changes in the keyboards.

 

They are all mitsumi.

 

Some have short, black flat cables. These seem to be older and usually have dull caps, although your k/b seems to have white letters.

 

The newer k/bs have longer grey cables and white keys.

 

At any rate, I can send you a keycap and you can decide how close we got... pick a color!

 

Bob

 

Ok, I took the keyboard outside to see what it looked like under sunlight.  I am happy to report that the keys are white, or maybe a tiny bit

yellow...  I'm going to assume ( a terrible thing to do) that these keys were once white and have yellowed a bit with age.  So I will pick

WHITE.   What would you like me to do next?

 

Thank you,

DavidMil



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Posted Sat Jul 21, 2018 3:37 PM

Are the keys shiny, or dull?

 

PM me your address and stuff.

 

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Posted Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:38 PM

These two keys are white and almost white, believe it or not. Photos just don't capture it.

 

I can send you both and you can pick the best match.

 

Bob

 

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Posted Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:35 AM

Are the keys shiny, or dull?

 

PM me your address and stuff.

 

Bob

 

Definitely shiny. 

 

David



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Posted Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:43 PM

I want to thank bob1200xl for sending the keycaps.  I'm happy to report that I've installed the missing keycap and the keyboard looks and

works great!

 

Thank you bob1200xl!

David



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Posted Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:44 PM

You're welcome.

 

I have many, many 1200XL parts if any more of you AA folks need something.

 

PM me.

 

Bob






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