beardman32 Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) Whatever, sell your game and then go away. We all know that is exactly what's gonna happen here. You can go back to being self important somewhere else. As others have put it so elegantly, you're just a douche that found a rare game and your looking to brag and then sell it. You joined AA just to advertise and maybe pump up the potential final sale price. We have all gone threw this song and dance with people just like you many times over and it's always the same broken record. This isn't the first rodeo for any of us either. Good luck with the sale. Sooner the better. Whatever, sell your game and then go away. We all know that is exactly what's gonna happen here. You can go back to being self important somewhere else. As others have put it so elegantly, you're just a douche that found a rare game and your looking to brag and then sell it. You joined AA just to advertise and maybe pump up the potential final sale price. We have all gone threw this song and dance with people just like you many times over and it's always the same broken record. This isn't the first rodeo for any of us either. Good luck with the sale. Sooner the better. As I mentioned before and to clarify i'm a big collector myself and i'm 100% keeping this game unless someone can beat my expectations of a price. I'm giving an opportunity for someone who may appreciate this game more than me to have a chance at it. I'm not looking to make a quick buck like you describe. It's sad to see someone like you get so salty on other people's finds. "Sell your game sooner the better" just proves to me that your a childish person that can't enjoy seeing other people happy. You just don't want to accept this news so you want to get rid of me fast. I mean who are you to even comment or tell me what to do? I'm sorry but your nobody so take your tears somewhere else. The more you write the more you show Atari Age how pathetic you are. I'm not here to cater to your needs or please you. I don't have to prove anything to you professor. Edited August 19, 2018 by beardman32 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardman32 Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 You have no clue what you are talking about on this matter. Everything about that statement is false. You would know that if you had a clue but you don't. Sorry I tried to come off politely with you, but sadly this is just a bad case of butt hurt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Combat Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Thank you Rom Hunter! Yes I believe it's in the top 3 rarest Atari 2600 games for sure. I can say it's either this or Birthday Mania on the #1 list along with red sea crossing and gamma attack going for second and third. I suppose Extra Terrestrials is the rarest in my opinion as no copies were ever sold before or advertised and also because of the unorthodox way of selling them door to door. Birthday mania is also very scarce as well but was advertised on local news papers back in the day and about 300 copies were apparently made with currently two collectors who are in possession of a copy today. Other rare games like Gamma attack are unpredictable because the producer never came out and not much information released, so at anytime it's possible for a bunker to be found somewhere in someone's basement with multiple copies just like Air Raid (17 boxed copies were found). Extra Terrestrials and Birthday Mania are verified that only a hundred or so copies were ever made in the beginning so they are the rarest for sure Congrats on the find. I didn't know 17 boxed air raids were found if so I want one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Wonder007 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Interesting find, how much do you want for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardman32 Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 Congrats on the find. I didn't know 17 boxed air raids were found if so I want one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Wonder007 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 For the record, I would put Birthday Mania, Gamma Attack, Gauntlet, Monogrammed Space Chase and Ultravision Karate before Extra Terrestrials in terms of core rarity. What makes this game unique is that half of the games are owned by a museum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 For the record, I would put Birthday Mania, Gamma Attack, Gauntlet, Monogrammed Space Chase and Ultravision Karate before Extra Terrestrials in terms of core rarity. What makes this game unique is that half of the games are owned by a museum. For the record has a monogrammed copy of Space Chase ever been found? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Wonder007 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Yes, one of the Digital Press folks has one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Wonder007 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 And, I have one too thanks to a good friend of mine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardman32 Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 Congrats on the find. I didn't know 17 boxed air raids were found if so I want one. Yes supposedly from what I heard one person many years back claimed like Tim Atwood who found all those sealed stadium events that he found a box full of CIB Air Raid (17 of them). Although no confirmation or evidence was provided suddenly the same year 4-5 copies of the game sold online and in private auctions. The price of the game became very debatable and dropped dramatically because of this 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardman32 Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 Interesting find, how much do you want for it? Please private message all offers. Right now I'm taking best offers until something convinces me. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardman32 Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 For the record, I would put Birthday Mania, Gamma Attack, Gauntlet, Monogrammed Space Chase and Ultravision Karate before Extra Terrestrials in terms of core rarity. What makes this game unique is that half of the games are owned by a museum. I understand where you're coming from but that's sort of the same story with a gold Nintendo world championship cart and something like a NES earthbound prototype. In core rarity NES earthbound is rarer but what people see as iconic and memorable of when you think of NES is Nintendo world championship. Same story here with Extra terrestrials, there may be other things that are "rarer" but this game is iconic and there is a reason why it's on the top 5 the list of rarest Atari 2600 games. Mainly its method of distribution door to door, its confirmation of copies by producer and the restriction of solely being sold in one town in Ontario makes it extremely rare. Also the museum holds half the copies like you mentioned. Another interesting thing is that no copies have ever been sold in the world or ever been recorded unlike Red Sea crossing or even Birthday Mania which I believe have recorded sales. It was discovered in 2012 and it's a whole new unique game not a variant or title change or monogrammed game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardman32 Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 For the record, I would put Birthday Mania, Gamma Attack, Gauntlet, Monogrammed Space Chase and Ultravision Karate before Extra Terrestrials in terms of core rarity. What makes this game unique is that half of the games are owned by a museum. Like Karate has the same identical game by a different producer that is very cheap (Froggo games) so it's just a variant, Atlantis II again same game but the numbers are different (variant), Gauntlet a copy in 2012 sold for $600 and multiple copies sold for $3000 in early 2000's, Air Raid multiple CIB copies found, Gamma attack some say is still debatable because people still believe it's a homebrew as no information was officially released. In my opinion Birthday Mania and Extra terrestrials are the "rarest" as they have the most information behind them and least copies owned and sold. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 What part of Ontario did you find this if I can ask. I'm not sure if Syd ever mentioned where his donated copy came from and as others have mentioned I've forgotten the original story years ago. Very saddened by Syd's passing. I had always wanted to visit his museum one day but never had the time to venture up there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Gamma attack some say is still debatable because people still believe it's a homebrew as no information was officially released. False. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardman32 Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 False. I clearly said some say, not that it's proven or it's a fact. Are you still here? haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardman32 Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 What part of Ontario did you find this if I can ask. I'm not sure if Syd ever mentioned where his donated copy came from and as others have mentioned I've forgotten the original story years ago. Very saddened by Syd's passing. I had always wanted to visit his museum one day but never had the time to venture up there. Hey Atari Leaf yes looking at the forums I see you were very actively involved a few years back regarding this game. I think the original producer or someone who knew him had a copy he was about to throw out and donated it to syd (i'm not sure at all). I found this game near Brantford, Ontario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Cade Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) This "make offers until my expectations are met" is bullshit. Name a price... I mean, I am not a buyer anyway, so ignore me, but that just seems like a shitty way to buy or sell something. Is that how high-priced collectibles are commonly sold? Basically a blind auction with a reserve? What's to say someone doesn't just price-drive and say "well, someone else offered me a million dollars, how about $1.1 million?" Or is it just so the seller can shit on people and belittle their offers and make themselves feel superior? Other than that- Nice find! Edited August 19, 2018 by R.Cade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 I clearly said some say, not that it's proven or it's a fact. Are you still here? haha So the original programmer coming forward, him releasing all the games relevant paper materials from the the games original release, selling of his personal copy and prototype of Gamma Attack as well as re-releasing the game after the first copy was found in the wild, selling off the leftover original unused labels, ect. is all unproven? Gotcha. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Hey Atari Leaf yes looking at the forums I see you were very actively involved a few years back regarding this game. I think the original producer or someone who knew him had a copy he was about to throw out and donated it to syd (i'm not sure at all). I found this game near Brantford, Ontario. Thanks for the reply that seems to make sense and line up since that's where Syd's museum was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Combat Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Yes supposedly from what I heard one person many years back claimed like Tim Atwood who found all those sealed stadium events that he found a box full of CIB Air Raid (17 of them). Although no confirmation or evidence was provided suddenly the same year 4-5 copies of the game sold online and in private auctions. The price of the game became very debatable and dropped dramatically because of this I have only seen a couple cib air raids sell on ebay in the past 10 years so if new in box were found one would have surfaced by now. I'm sure a sealed box or two of stadium events have been found its not that rare but sells for 20 to 40k range because the hoard of Nintendo collectors, they need a holy grail too even though there's probably a couple hundred copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardman32 Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 This "make offers until my expectations are met" is bullshit. Name a price... I mean, I am not a buyer anyway, so ignore me, but that just seems like a shitty way to buy or sell something. Is that how high-priced collectibles are commonly sold? Basically a blind auction with a reserve? What's to say someone doesn't just price-drive and say "well, someone else offered me a million dollars, how about $1.1 million?" Or is it just so the seller can shit on people and belittle their offers and make themselves feel superior? Other than that- Nice find! Well this isn't something you drop by the super market and decide to pick up. This is one of the rarest Atari 2600 games ever made with no recorded sales, prices and currently I'm the only collector in the world that owns it. As I mentioned as well I want to keep this game unless I hear offers that are higher than my expectations and can't refuse. I'm not sure what your trying to get at with what you wrote but the price is determined by what someone wants to pay for it. I'm here to see who pays the highest, simple as that Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardman32 Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 So the original programmer coming forward, him releasing all the games relevant paper materials from the the games original release, selling of his personal copy and prototype of Gamma Attack as well as re-releasing the game after the first copy was found in the wild, selling off the leftover original unused labels, ect. is all unproven? Gotcha. Like I mentioned I only said what other people believe. Also if the producer as you say re-released the game and has extra labels sitting around don't you think the value drops? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardman32 Posted August 19, 2018 Author Share Posted August 19, 2018 I have only seen a couple cib air raids sell on ebay in the past 10 years so if new in box were found one would have surfaced by now. I'm sure a sealed box or two of stadium events have been found its not that rare but sells for 20 to 40k range because the hoard of Nintendo collectors, they need a holy grail too even though there's probably a couple hundred copies. Yea I understand, i wasn't entirely talking about Ebay many were sold off privately in auctions as well. That's why a lot of people had second thoughts about the game and got worried that there may be more copies stashed somewhere. Like Racketboy also says the price and quantity is very debatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Cade Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) Well this isn't something you drop by the super market and decide to pick up. This is one of the rarest Atari 2600 games ever made with no recorded sales, prices and currently I'm the only collector in the world that owns it. As I mentioned as well I want to keep this game unless I hear offers that are higher than my expectations and can't refuse. I'm not sure what your trying to get at with what you wrote but the price is determined by what someone wants to pay for it. I'm here to see who pays the highest, simple as that Thank you! I think eBay will get you the highest price and it would be quite a spectacle. You'd have an article on every gaming site and more... But, only if it's a "real" auction. No super-high starting bid and no reserve. That would be a non-story just like the hundreds of other auctions like it where people want $50k for an Apple IIe. Edited August 19, 2018 by R.Cade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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