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#1 shadowman01 OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:33 AM

Last  Friday my Jaguar finally arrived and it is really a nice console. I am using it with Composite  cable now and the Image quality is allright. But I am aming to improve  Image quality.

 

So I am thinking of getting either some S-Video or RGB Scart cables  for my Jaguar.

 

As I European Guy getting Scart would be the most  logical  choice  because SCART is very common in Europe under normal circumstances.

 

Atari Stuff is rather scare in Europe though so  the only way to get cables is the order them online. If i can only find the stuff online I can get any cable I want.

 

Scart cables seem to be more expensive then SV Video so I wonder if getting  RGB SCART is really worth the extra Money when playing on Sony Trinitron CRT?

 

What do you  guys think?



#2 Austin OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:19 AM

Yes, just go for the SCART cable.

https://www.retrogam...uk/atari-jaguar

#3 Gummy Bear ONLINE  

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Posted Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:23 AM

Scart all the way.

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Posted Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:30 AM

+3 for SCART. I'm fine w/s-video on systems that don't support RGB without a mod, but hey if you can get pure RGB with just a cable, why not?



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Posted Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:07 AM

S-VIDEO!!!!

Nah just pulling your leg :D

 

SCART every time. 



#6 Gummy Bear ONLINE  

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Posted Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:03 AM

The Jag's RGB output is very clean as well.
The kind of clarity that you have to do RGB bypass mods on other machines to get.

No jailbars, no moire banding.
Clean.

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Posted Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:38 AM

if you are in Europe as you say and SCART is common then go for the SCART. I have never been able to experience SCART as I'd need to get the cable and an SCART adapter since we dont have SCARt here in the USA.

 

I have used composite to HDMI adapter on a 65 inch plasma and it looked pretty awesome. (tried that with my Jaguar and Saturn but need to try it with my Dreamcast and 3DO).

 

otherwise I have tried 3 different svideo cables for the Jaguar with a Sony Trinitron XBR CRT and it looks pretty nice and crisp with nice dark spots but I get checkerboarding on all of the systems (Jaguar, Saturn, Dreamcast, 3DO, Playstation1) and that pisses me off. Composite looks decent but more blurry around the edges vs the crispness of the svideo but it doesn;t have checkerboard which is a beneficial trade-off



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Posted Sat Sep 1, 2018 11:15 AM

If you can find the rgb for a reasonable price, to for that. Jag has an amazing image for an early 90's console.

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Posted Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:25 AM

Hey guys, I figured I'd post in this thread rather than start a new one.

 

I'm an American, and as far as I know there aren't any SCART compatible TVs that adhere to NTSC standards (if they are, I've never seen one). So I bought an S-video cable for my recently acquired Jag.

 

It doesn't seem to work. The picture is very wavy and the games are unplayable. 

 

The S-Video input on my TV works with my S-VHS player and 3DO, so there's nothing wrong there.  Is this likely a problem with the Jag or with the cable? I don't want to return the cable if it's not broken. 

 

EDIT:

To clarify, this is a CRT TV from the early aughts. 


Edited by Armond Poopson, Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:26 AM.


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Posted Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:41 AM

Hey guys, I figured I'd post in this thread rather than start a new one.
 
I'm an American, and as far as I know there aren't any SCART compatible TVs that adhere to NTSC standards (if they are, I've never seen one). So I bought an S-video cable for my recently acquired Jag.
 
It doesn't seem to work. The picture is very wavy and the games are unplayable. 
 
The S-Video input on my TV works with my S-VHS player and 3DO, so there's nothing wrong there.  Is this likely a problem with the Jag or with the cable? I don't want to return the cable if it's not broken. 
 
EDIT:
To clarify, this is a CRT TV from the early aughts.


That sounds like a PAL Jag and an NTSC TV.
Is your Jag PAL?
Welcome, by the way!

#11 Armond Poopson OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:16 AM

Nope, the Jag is NTSC. Bought it from a US seller and it works great through the RF port. Bu



#12 Mitch OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:15 AM

Is your svideo cable OEM or one of the cheap knockoffs?

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Posted Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:35 AM

Just as an FYI, SCART in the US is mainly used w/upscalers. Or if you have an RGB monitor, a SCART to BNC cable.



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Posted Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:42 AM

Yeah..can someone answer which Sync the Jaguar requires? I've seen where a Luma on sync cable was needed but then I see that retrogamingcables in the UK only offers what I assume is the cheaper cable with composite sync, and a the slightly more expensive cable using true C-sync.



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Posted Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:18 PM

The Jaguar doesn't require anything, it provides all three options. You need to look at what your monitor or upscaler requires.

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Posted Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:16 PM

The Jaguar doesn't require anything, it provides all three options. You need to look at what your monitor or upscaler requires.

 

Okay, but that doesn't explain why a composite sync cable seems to be the only one I can get working from it. I have tried c-sync cables that work on other consoles without issue, but using a c-sync from the jag doesn't even seem to make the scart switcher kick on. I wouldn't mind using a composite sync cable, except that all the ones I've used seem to put a nasty amount of buzz on the audio.

 

Forgot to mention that I've been trying to use the jag with my OSSC. My SNES, Genesis, Saturn, and Mastersystem all seem to work fine using a c-sync setup, but the jag...nope...


Edited by -^CrožBow^-, Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:17 PM.


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Posted Wed Oct 31, 2018 6:05 PM

I don't get it. How can you be using the same cable with both the Jaguar and other consoles? The video connector on the Jaguar is unique, no other console uses it. :?



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Posted Fri Nov 2, 2018 10:52 AM

I don't get it. How can you be using the same cable with both the Jaguar and other consoles? The video connector on the Jaguar is unique, no other console uses it. icon_confused.gif

Because I'm using one of these:

 

https://atariage.com...able-converter/



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Posted Sat Nov 3, 2018 2:22 PM

You should try a direct Jaguar cable instead of converters, and see if that resolves your issue.

 

My Jaguar SCART cable is CSYNC, not sync-over-composite.



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Posted Yesterday, 1:06 PM

Not sure if a new thread was needed, so I'm bumping this one.

 

I'm getting a RGB Scart cable from Retro Gaming Cables.

 

Regarding sync, I asked them which Scart cable I should buy.

 
 
Obviously I want the best possible IQ to go through my OSSC.

 

 

To my surprise, RGC answered this:

 

"I would recommend the non CSYNC version."

 

 

Huh???

 

Isn't CSYNC always better as long as the console is CSYNC capable (and the Jag is)?

 

I'm super confused now, I was pretty sure CSYNC was always the better option.

 

What you guys say?



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Posted Yesterday, 1:59 PM

Maybe the OSSC has a known incompatibility with C-sync from the Jaguar.

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Posted Yesterday, 9:04 PM

In my case, the issue is that the cables I've tried just don't seem to kick off the bainbridge switcher. It will flash briefly when using the cable from the Jaguar, but when using them on other consoles they work as they should. Again, the adapter I'm using could very well require a Luma Sync cable for the Jag, But I'm thinking I will just either modify one of the cables I have now to work or buy a scart rgb jag cable.






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