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#1 Albert OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:30 AM

We know that not everyone cares about paying extra for a box when buying new homebrew games. We've updated eight of our latest games for the 2600 and 5200 so you can now buy them without the box. These games still come with a high-quality label and manual, but the box is now optional. Here are the games:

2600_Anguna_CartAndManual.jpg 2600_Assembloids_CartAndManual.jpg 2600_Draconian_CartAndManual.jpg 2600_Drive_CartAndManual.jpg 2600_PankyThePanda_CartAndManual.jpg 2600_SpaceCactusCanyon_CartAndManual.jpg 2600_SuperCobraArcade_CartAndManual.jpg 5200_Ratcatcher_CartAndManual.jpg

Here's a list of the games:Click on any of the above images or links above to learn more about each game!

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Posted Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:36 AM

Cool!  The boxes are well worth it though!

 

Thanks Al!



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Posted Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:58 AM

I absolutely love the design of the Draconian manual



#4 Albert OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:59 AM

I absolutely love the design of the Draconian manual


Yes, Nathan did a great job with that! :D

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Posted Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:43 AM

Al, you forgot Star Castle Arcade.



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Posted Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:45 AM

I did that one a while ago..   

 

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Posted Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:50 AM

I did that one a while ago.

I must have missed that. That or I have forgotten something again. :)



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Posted Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:20 PM

I absolutely love the design of the Draconian manual

 

 

Thanks - it was fun to do. :) Darrell gave me a lot of free reign with it.



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Posted Tue Aug 28, 2018 2:22 PM

That's a great idea, and makes me want to get some homebrew cartridges now. I'm not a box-saver and the notion of not wanting to destroy someone's heartfelt bespoke work kept me from jumping in. Yay for choices!



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Posted Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:09 PM

We know that not everyone cares about paying extra for a box when buying new homebrew games. We've updated eight of our latest games for the 2600 and 5200 so you can now buy them without the box. These games still come with a high-quality label and manual, but the box is now optional. Here are the games:


Sorry to bother: What are the boxes closest of becoming sold out?

Im planning buying a few AA games and might start with those.

Thank you!

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Posted Tue Aug 28, 2018 5:36 PM

We know that not everyone cares about paying extra for a box when buying new homebrew games. We've updated eight of our latest games for the 2600 and 5200 so you can now buy them without the box. These games still come with a high-quality label and manual, but the box is now optional. Here are the games:

Click on any of the above images or links above to learn more about each game!

 

Speaking of boxes, PM sent.



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Posted Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:31 AM

This is interesting. Funny, because I would think part of the hobby -- a big part -- would be the boxes. For me, it is. However, when money is tight, perhaps it is the way to go. 



#13 Thomas Jentzsch OFFLINE  

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Posted Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:34 AM

That's a matter of perspective. I am sure for people who are collecting, the box is a major part. But not so much for people who are more focused on playing the games or developing new ones.



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Posted Fri Aug 31, 2018 1:36 AM

This is great! Would be cool to have all the boxed titles available as both loose or CIB when it's restock time :)



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Posted Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:33 AM

Something people should know. Having boxes pre-made  can be a risky investment. 50,100, or more boxes can be made, and you do not know how many and how fast you are going to sell. The game may only sell 20-30 units right away, and may sell slow like 1 every few months. May take years to sell off the remaining stock. Anyone manufacturing and selling cartridge most likely not invest in ordering more after. Other things involved is extra time and labor involved with packaging, and storage of unused stock.  Pretty sure Albert does not want extra stuff cluttering up their homes. Does having the extra nice printed box really increase sales enough to make it worthwhile? Many people want to get the game at the lowest price possible.



#16 Albert OFFLINE  

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Posted Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:36 AM

I do sell many boxed copies of games, but you are right, I will generally be sitting on piles of boxes for some time.  I still have unused boxes I printed for games back in the early 2000s.  The more games I print boxes for, the more I need to store and organize, and they do take up a fair bit of space (even in their unfolded state).  



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Posted Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:47 AM

I understand why collectors want a boxes, if they are willing to 'pay extra', I can see it.  For people like me, a box would have ended up in the garbage.  When I bought my 5200 Tempest cartridge a month or so ago, it didn't come with one either, I noticed, but didn't miss it.



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Posted Fri Aug 31, 2018 2:14 PM

Thanks Albert; you rock! Now I will be able to buy more homebrews in the future. :cool:



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Posted Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:24 PM

I am surprised somewhat by the response on the boxes, but am also glad about it (I will explain in just a moment). 

 

For me, the boxes are important. Not as investments, in hopes of capital appreciation, but instead because of nostalgia. Some of the artwork on Atari boxes is incredibly nostalgic for me. 

 

Just the other night, I wasn't playing any games, but reviewing my boxes and what is inside...the manuals, warranty slips, catalogs. In particular, I focused on Pitfall 2. That game is not just an impressive program...it's a spectacular project overall. I was reading through the diary in the manual, the tips from Crane, studied the box/art, read the marketing blurb on the back, all the while hearing the tune of the game in my head. It would not be the same without the box.

 

However, I do like to be reminded from time to time that it is the game most of all, and that I should not worry about boxes. Money can be tight for me, and simply put, lately, I can only get used games, no box, nothing else (ah, my beloved catalogs). So I do see that point of view, and am glad to see it...I know, by the way, we are talking about something a bit different here, in terms of home-brew products, but still, made me think about this other angle....


Edited by AAA177, Fri Aug 31, 2018 10:24 PM.


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Posted Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:15 PM

Boxes for old games? I want old games boxes, but assumed the early homebrew didn't have them. Skeleton! I really need to get + at some point.

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Posted Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:19 PM

Something people should know. Having boxes pre-made  can be a risky investment. 50,100, or more boxes can be made, and you do not know how many and how fast you are going to sell. The game may only sell 20-30 units right away, and may sell slow like 1 every few months. May take years to sell off the remaining stock. Anyone manufacturing and selling cartridge most likely not invest in ordering more after. Other things involved is extra time and labor involved with packaging, and storage of unused stock.  Pretty sure Albert does not want extra stuff cluttering up their homes. Does having the extra nice printed box really increase sales enough to make it worthwhile? Many people want to get the game at the lowest price possible.

 

I understand this for sure. That is why I made sure myself to say when it's "restock" time cause selling loose carts and being stuck with a storage issue for CIB copies would not be fun.



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Posted Sat Sep 1, 2018 6:25 AM

I do sell many boxed copies of games, but you are right, I will generally be sitting on piles of boxes for some time.  I still have unused boxes I printed for games back in the early 2000s.  The more games I print boxes for, the more I need to store and organize, and they do take up a fair bit of space (even in their unfolded state).  

 

 

 

I understand this for sure. That is why I made sure myself to say when it's "restock" time cause selling loose carts and being stuck with a storage issue for CIB copies would not be fun.

 

Maybe should consider some sort of generalized boxes with the Atari Age logo on it, and print up box labels, put them on them as orders come in.


Edited by peteym5, Sat Sep 1, 2018 6:56 AM.


#23 Albert OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Sep 1, 2018 12:07 PM

Maybe should consider some sort of generalized boxes with the Atari Age logo on it, and print up box labels, put them on them as orders come in.

 

I could do that, but I don't think I'd be very happy with the quality of the boxes.  

 

 ..Al



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Posted Sat Sep 1, 2018 1:34 PM

Something that anybody can do is order some of these. Including those who are obsessed with quality boxes and cases. 

 

https://www.ebay.com...56311839?chn=ps

 

https://www.mediashe...e-full-case-100

 

http://www.retrogame...oads/atari3.jpg

 

The 2600, 5200, 7800, and Jaguar cartridges can fit inside them. Atari 8-bit and LYNX cartridges probably be too small. 

 

You can print your own inserts! Can find small quantities on Ebay. Larger Businesses may order them in large quantities and sell them with the cartridges inside them. Probably best to do Google searching to find your desired Quantity.

 

From the experience with the Atari 8-bit games, sales are expected to be around 50 units. Not sure what is the expected average unit sales for the 2600 would be. Something that needs to be considered, don't want to see people getting stuck with unsold cases and boxes. 


Edited by peteym5, Sat Sep 1, 2018 1:48 PM.


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Posted Mon Sep 3, 2018 5:04 AM

Thanks for no box options on these great games. There was some talk a few years back about selling rom downloads in the store as well as physical cartridges. I would love to play the new games and support the developers, but Im not always interested in physical medium: what happened to that?




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