rasch_C Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 From the files of "what grinds my gears"..... I've been seeing a trend as of late, typically when advertising old game consoles for sale. Whether it be an NES, or a 4-switch Woody listed as "Launch Edition" in the for sale title. This term is a recent term within the gaming community stemming from the generations and limited editions of Xbox and Playstation consoles. I do not believe it really has any merit in retro. Just the resellers using the current buzzwords to market their wares. I may be OK with the term being used in the retro realm under specific guidelines (what are those when we are talking about speculators and resellers, right?). But when, as I saw today by me, a 4-switch Woody is listed as "Launch Edition" I have to laugh. That version is at least 2 or 3 years into the console's lifespan. If anything were to be considered "Launch Edition", it would have to be the Sunnyvale Heavy-sixer - the version that came out when that platform actually "launched". Discuss....... -Allen Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I think there was a similar topic a few years back. I agree, in retro terms, "launch edition" didn't exist. I'd be ok with an early model first generation having that attached to it, like you said, a Sunnyvale heavy would be ok. But several iterations in, not so much. In modern consoles, and especially games, they seem to be made in WAY to much quantity. I see many still available months, or even years later, at the same, or even cheaper price. That shows the average person doesn't care, yet launch of special edition stuff keeps getting pumped out in to much quantity. Surprised scalpers can't usually keep the price up on this stuff. Anyhow, it has to be something special for me to even consider, otherwise, I just want the game or console, and typically don't care about the extra fluf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eltigro Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 It seems to be automatically put into many Ebay item descriptions/titles or something. That alone has made me absolutely hate the term. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari_Bill Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Same for me. Drives me up a wall. I constantly see 4 switchers and Juniors listed as launch edition and it just makes me nuts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 I like when ebay calls any console from the 80s forward launch edition. I guess I forgot it said that on things like the NES and N64 right on the box in really tiny print. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osgeld Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) It seems to be automatically put into many Ebay item descriptions/titles or something. That alone has made me absolutely hate the term. its not automatic, its one of the predefined selections you can use if you are too lazy I typically ignore them cause if your too lazy to type a sentence I am not going to beleive anything else you put in ... much like those listings which are a effin wikipedia article on the system and doesnt tell you squat about that specific unit I will bust some balls on bin or best offers on them though, last one was some dude asking 50 bucks (free shipping) on a 4 switch 2600 and had it listed as a 6 switch launch edition, my note went something like.... "Here's my best offer since its neither a 4 switch or launch edition model, and your description says nothing of the console's functional state or anything else relevant" ended up getting it for 18 bucks shipped, worked perfectly fine Edited September 1, 2018 by Osgeld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaperman Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) Even in retro game terms, the first iteration of a console is generally made of significantly better stuff than the cost-cutting variations that follow it. But it's an overused term that's so watered down with bullcrap that it's not even worth searching for. 'rare' is my most annoying ebay term. Or the term 'mint' as it's used to describe even loose games in various states of decay. Edited September 1, 2018 by Reaperman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eltigro Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Yeah... well I mean, automatic in that it suggests that one automatically when you start typing something in and people use it. I've had it do that to me before, but I caught it and deleted the "Launch Edition" part before posting. And you'd probably love my listings... I sometimes think I give too much detail. I've even included pics of the insides of consoles in listings before. Haven't seen anyone else do that. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasch_C Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) ... much like those listings which are a effin wikipedia article on the system and doesnt tell you squat about that specific unit Not to derail my own topic, but YES! Thia is so classic and also an annoyance. Too much damn boilerplate (wikipedia, and otherwise). So much about terms and conditions, payment expectations, Wikipedia quote about the item, etc. And MAYBE a single sentence about the specific item they are selling. Do you even know what your are selling? Put a little effort in if you want to have my interest to buy it. -Allen Edited September 2, 2018 by rasch_C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derFunkenstein Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 It seems to be automatically put into many Ebay item descriptions/titles or something. That alone has made me absolutely hate the term. That's what ruined it. The only system that has come out with a "launch edition" (that I remember, anyway, though there are probably others) is the Xbox One, and I think they called it Day One Edition or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 L@@K a RARE Launch Edition WOW! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamchevy Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) That's what ruined it. The only system that has come out with a "launch edition" (that I remember, anyway, though there are probably others) is the Xbox One, and I think they called it Day One Edition or something like that. I really dislike the Term “Day one Edition”. I get it, you got it on day one! Oh I thought maybe you bought it on day 2? That’s so much different. Oh, I get it. It’s so I can expect it to be a piece of crap that needs 3-4 2gb updates to be a decent game. Or that I cheaped out and didn’t get the “Limited Super Special Collectors only Edition”. It’s only $100 to $200 dollars more. Oh wait one day you will include all the DLC and I can get the “Complete Edition”. Why didn’t I get this version on Day One? How many times are you going to sell me the same game? Oh wait, someday it’ll be in 3D HD 16k in Virtual Reality with 27 channel surround sound and you can sell it to me again!! Edited September 2, 2018 by adamchevy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 In a world in which you can wait a bit to get "game of the year edition" for less than half price with lots of extras, "day one edition" seems like the sucker's choice. See also: many versions (let's not encourage "editions") of windows. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Microsoft_Windows_versions 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 !SNIP! Why didn’t I get this version on Day One? How many times are you going to sell me the same game? Oh wait, someday it’ll be in 3D HD 16k in Virtual Reality with 27 channel surround sound and you can sell it to me again!! I see a similar trend in some home-brewers' games, especially one-hit wonders who wish to milk more dough out of collectors pockets for their star title. -dZ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I thought we already had complete editions. They just were called Game of the Year releases as they came with every piece of DLC already included for a reduced price on a one disc. It's like you almost need to wait and see how a $60 game plus another $30-50+ in DLC goes because a year or a little less later you can get the GOTY release for $40. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 If the use of the launch edition term bothers you on ebay, you can flag them for false or misleading title. It would have to be the exact same packaging and the exact same electronics inside as the ones sold on the day the system launched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasch_C Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 If the use of the launch edition term bothers you on ebay, you can flag them for false or misleading title. It would have to be the exact same packaging and the exact same electronics inside as the ones sold on the day the system launched.That's nice in theory. But in actual reality, with regards to ebay specifically, it has been found to not work. eBay does not care, as long as they're raking in more profits. You would think they'd want to abide by their own ToS and not have so many blatant counterfeit goods being sold on their platform for example. You could flag everything that a seller stated is a "photocopied manual" or "reproduction cart", where obviously the seller is not the copyright holder. eBay does not do jack. If they do not care about the above stated example, they certainly would not care about the more insignificant example of "Launch Edition" in the title for virtually everything. -Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 If they do not care about the above stated example, they certainly would not care about the more insignificant example of "Launch Edition" in the title for virtually everything. I would imagine that proving "false or misleading description" is a lot easier and requires less effort that proving "copyright infringement." Just because they are slow to address one does not necessarily mean the same for the other. They may not care either way, but I do not think that one follows the other. -dZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeeperofLindblum Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Honestly, I always found it funny how you can still find "Day One" editions like years after their release. Seems kinda telling right? I'm all for the "Complete" ones, but I wish they wouldn't attach all the review scores on them like the Horizon Zero Dawn Complete. Thankfully, that one has a reversible cover that shows the same art but without all the words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 The funniest thing is that the "Intellivision II" was not even the "launch" console. It was the cost-cutting follow-up to the original "Master Component." -dZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+thanatos Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 I think I hate "Holy Grail!" More than "Launch Edition". 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamchevy Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 I think I hate "Holy Grail!" More than "Launch Edition".I agree X2! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Yeah we all know the holy grail was lost when that nazi stooge and Dr Jones fought over it before it and her fell into a crack in the ground almost a 100 years ago now. Seriously though I really hate that term. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Yeah... well I mean, automatic in that it suggests that one automatically when you start typing something in and people use it. I've had it do that to me before, but I caught it and deleted the "Launch Edition" part before posting. And you'd probably love my listings... I sometimes think I give too much detail. I've even included pics of the insides of consoles in listings before. Haven't seen anyone else do that. lol Not sure I'd want my consoles un=necessarily disassembled. Unless you think you can do it an anti-static environment and put the screws back in so they don't cut new threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 L@@K a RARE Launch Edition WOW! Yes. Like I care I'm the first guy in town with a new game. Probably 99.99% of the people in my town don't even know I purchased a new game. The "glow" and "spotlight" are all internally generated in your head and seeded by marketing departments. You are the flunky. Like I got a new iPhone the other day and it is quantifiably better than the earlier "launch editions" or previous iterations. Naturally. And guess what? I didn't have to camp-out for 2 days in line. I do however thank those suckers paying more than I did.. for beta-testing it for me.. for helping develop the ecosphere so I don't have to mire in tedium. I just just go and use it and be done and done. And I don't chase after special colors or artwork or whatever. There is always something better around the corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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