82-T/A Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Getting rid of some stuff, really just don't need or want this stuff anymore. Shipping is costly, I know... but give it a look: http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5575378759&campid=5338273189&customid=&icep_item=273439023932&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg&toolid=11111 Copy/Paste from the eBay auction: Hi! I'm selling my Compaq DeskPro XL 566 Workstation. STATS: Pentium 66-MHz Processor 16-MBs RAM 1.44mb Floppy SCSI 512mb Hard Drive SCSI CD-ROM Drive Sound Blaster 16 Compaq 2mb SVGA Card 56k Compaq Modem Onboard BNC / Ethernet Card I originally purchased this computer on eBay a year or so ago. I purchased it to teach my 7 year old how to take apart and put together a basic older computer. I picked this one because I had always been a fan of these computers, the styling, etc. This was sort of their "hay day." When I purchased the computer, it was not running. Battery was dead, and the hard drive had been wiped, this losing the super complicated BIOS configuration software (which gets loaded onto the hard drive). We disassembled the computer down to every last screw, cleaned everything with dish soap (minus the computer components, obviously), used compressed air on the digital parts, and re-assembled everything. My daughter and I spend several weeks searching for the original Compaq Configuration Software, downloaded it on to two bootable 1.44 floppies (which will be included) and installed the necessary BIOS software. We installed DOS 5.0, and loaded GeoWorks, Norton Utilities, and other tools and software. Computer is READY TO GO to install any DOS games you want, install Win 98 SE, whatever!! WHAT YOU GET: Everything shown in the computer (basically, the computer) Special VGA cable (pin difference on Compaq side, compatible with all VGA monitors) Note, computer has almost no fading or discoloration from the sun, it's in much better condition than nearly all the ones I've seen on eBay. Also... I installed a brand new CMOS battery. Thanks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxpressed Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Nice machine! That Sound Blaster CT1740 is worth $50 by itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82-T/A Posted September 2, 2018 Author Share Posted September 2, 2018 Yeah, it really is a nice machine. I hope I'm not asking too much. I think I paid $100 + another $20 for shipping. It was more for the experience for my daughter, but in the end, it turned out really nice. I just don't want to "give it away." I have a BRAND NEW KAYPRO 8088 that I'm also going to be selling either tonight or tomorrow. I paid $500 for it on eBay to relive my childhood, but then I got my own working, so I don't need it anymore. I don't think I can justify selling it for $500... but I'm thinking $350. I would rather it go to someone who's going to take care of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 You’re underpricing the Compaq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82-T/A Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 You’re underpricing the Compaq. You really think so? I'm not sure it'll even sell at this price. What do you think you'd sell it at? I mean, I do like it... just don't have the need or room for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 I'd think if you were underpricing it, it would be gone already. With the current market climate, people are usually pretty quick to jump on better-than-usual deals. I would have considered it but I already have a 166mhz Pentium machine. Not much use for a 66mhz unfortunately, outside of making it a DOS-only machine (I have Windows 95 on mine). Anyway, best of luck on the sale. Hopefully it goes to a good home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxpressed Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 I just noticed that this is an EISA bus system. That EISA video card is pretty cool. (EISA is a 32-bit bus that competed with IBMs Micro Channel Architecture.) Theyre not too common, the technology having been supplanted by PCI. Kind of neat to see an early Penguin with it. You may want to add EISA to the description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82-T/A Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 I'd think if you were underpricing it, it would be gone already. With the current market climate, people are usually pretty quick to jump on better-than-usual deals. I would have considered it but I already have a 166mhz Pentium machine. Not much use for a 66mhz unfortunately, outside of making it a DOS-only machine (I have Windows 95 on mine). Anyway, best of luck on the sale. Hopefully it goes to a good home. I've also got a P2 that I use for everything above that, and then a 386 SX-25 that has a Cyrix DLC-40 processor on it (so like a 486 SX-16 comparable) for everything below that. Really just don't have a use for it... but it was fun messing with. I just noticed that this is an EISA bus system. That EISA video card is pretty cool. (EISA is a 32-bit bus that competed with IBMs Micro Channel Architecture.) Theyre not too common, the technology having been supplanted by PCI. Kind of neat to see an early Penguin with it. You may want to add EISA to the description. You're right, I just updated it. You can't see from the picture I posted, but there are actually two PCI slots, and 4 EISA slots. One of the EISA and PCI slots are shared (you probably remember how they used to do that). So the graphics card is actually a PCI, and the modem is also a PCI card. The only thing I have in the EISA slots is the Sound Blaster 16. Oddly enough, one of the EISA slots has a little extra connector (with 4 pins). If you look at the slot where the SB-16 is plugged into, you'll see it. It's really weird... not sure what that would be used for. I assume it provides extra power, but don't know any cards that would make use of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxpressed Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Perhaps the extra slot is the EISA extension? The SB is a regular 16-bit ISA card, so perhaps the extra slot is what makes EISA EISA. I mistook the processor card for the video card. I was wondering why a fan was pointed at it. According to the white label, it seems as though you could swap a 486 board with your Pentium board, if you could find one. Pretty cool to use this setup with a 486! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82-T/A Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 Perhaps the extra slot is the EISA extension? The SB is a regular 16-bit ISA card, so perhaps the extra slot is what makes EISA EISA. I mistook the processor card for the video card. I was wondering why a fan was pointed at it. According to the white label, it seems as though you could swap a 486 board with your Pentium board, if you could find one. Pretty cool to use this setup with a 486! So, for the EISA slots... they basically double the number of pins. So the connectors are like the MCA Microchannel Architecture from the IBMs. If you look really closely, the connectors on the EISA (can't see in my pictures) have double the number of pins of standard 16-bit ISA cards. When 16-bit cards are inserted, it utilizes it just like it would be a 16-bit ISA slot. But when you put an EISA card into it, it makes use of the split pins and doubles the throughput. I did have an EISA memory card back in the day... and that had twice the number of pins. But yeah, the big card is the processor card. It can be swapped out for other processor cards... this is how Compaq made use of that case, and they'd just change the faceplate and swap the board. There's 16mb already embedded onto the processor card, but you could put upwards of 512mb I think... I just don't have any memory cards to put in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxpressed Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Thanks -- I've never seen an EISA board. You might also list it on Amibay (just a newsgroup with sales handled via Paypal). It's more Euro-centric than Vogons, but Vogons doesn't let you post eBay auctions anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82-T/A Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 Ah man... I just found my spare Roland Sound Canvas... the SCB 55, and it's mounted to a Sound Blaster 16 ASP (with the ASP chip)... all with jumpers... no PnP stuff, which means it requires absolutely no drivers to be loaded at start-up. Ugh... what do I do? I haven't used it in almost a decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxpressed Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Sell it. If you are talking about the Roland wave table card that attaches to the Sound Blaster, it is worth hundreds of dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxpressed Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 This CIB SCB-7 sold for almost $300, which may even be a little low. It would probably sell for $400 or more with a BIN. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Roland-Sound-Canvas-DB-wavetable-Daughterboard-scb-7-scd-10-Original-Box-Excellent-Condition-/323415489814?hash=item4b4d10bd16%3Ag%3AGXoAAOSwq9ZbgslV&nma=true&si=FYAXQ5afyp0JQYVq3xP84Dx218E%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82-T/A Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 This CIB SCB-7 sold for almost $300, which may even be a little low. It would probably sell for $400 or more with a BIN. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Roland-Sound-Canvas-DB-wavetable-Daughterboard-scb-7-scd-10-Original-Box-Excellent-Condition-/323415489814?hash=item4b4d10bd16%3Ag%3AGXoAAOSwq9ZbgslV&nma=true&si=FYAXQ5afyp0JQYVq3xP84Dx218E%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Yup... that's the one. I too have the box, software, and everything. I even have it mounted to a Sound Blaster 16 ASP CT-1790, non-PnP. I've also got a Yamaha Wave- board as well... the DB-50XG (has better heavy-metal sound samples). I don't use any of them because I've also got the 8-Bit Roland LAPC-1, which is the Sound Canvas, but supports native General Midi and MT-32 and all the other good stuff. I don't know if I'm prepared to sell it yet... I don't use it, but man.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxpressed Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 I have the Yamaha and a Diamond board that uses the Roland patches. I collect wavetable daughter boards and ISA cards with wavetable ROMs. While you decide whether to keep it, fire it up and play Duke 3D, Doom, and Descent with that great GM music! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82-T/A Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 I have the Yamaha and a Diamond board that uses the Roland patches. I collect wavetable daughter boards and ISA cards with wavetable ROMs. While you decide whether to keep it, fire it up and play Duke 3D, Doom, and Descent with that great GM music! Well, that's what I use the Roland LAPC-1 for! Hahah... I have a super-rare (doesn't mean good), Crystal MIDI daughter card, and also one made by IBM. If I can find them as I'm doing my clean-up... they're yours (free). But I have to find them first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 You really think so? I'm not sure it'll even sell at this price. What do you think you'd sell it at? I mean, I do like it... just don't have the need or room for it. I'd up it $50 - $100. DOS machines are continuing to gain interest.. and at about the same rate as the idea using a later Pentium or Pentium II to try and do DOS things. If that makes sense. Nice machine! That Sound Blaster CT1740 is worth $50 by itself. I thought those specific boards would be going for more. --- You can always sell anything you have right now, but you can't always play with it once it's sold. I suggest hanging on to it. And consider it part of your DOS/3.1/95/98 support hardware. Put it "on notice". If you don't have or find use for it in a year's time, out it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxpressed Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 Well, that's what I use the Roland LAPC-1 for! Hahah... I have a super-rare (doesn't mean good), Crystal MIDI daughter card, and also one made by IBM. If I can find them as I'm doing my clean-up... they're yours (free). But I have to find them first. Oh, wow. Thank you for the generosity! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82-T/A Posted September 3, 2018 Author Share Posted September 3, 2018 I couldn't help myself... I put it up for sale. Still going through stuff, I'll let you know when I find the IBM / Crystal one. https://www.ebay.com/itm/273440905235 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxpressed Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 It will sell. Anything Roland or 3dfx in the vintage world is gold. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82-T/A Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 It will sell. Anything Roland or 3dfx in the vintage world is gold. Good luck! Yup... my Diamond Monster 3DFX already sold, just blew it out for $15... already in a box at the post office. Roland is still sitting there, but it's already got 3 watchers and has had like 30 views. My original KayPro 8088 (brand new) just sold for $475... didn't even sit in auction for more than a few hours... was pretty shocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxpressed Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 That Kaypro was cherry. I knew it would sell quick. I still think the Roland will sell for the opening bid at least, but if you're blowing things out, it will disappear quickly with a $250-$300 BIN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxpressed Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Well, that's what I use the Roland LAPC-1 for! Hahah... I have a super-rare (doesn't mean good), Crystal MIDI daughter card, and also one made by IBM. If I can find them as I'm doing my clean-up... they're yours (free). But I have to find them first. In case you were looking for an excuse to keep the Sound Canvas, its quite different from the LAPC-1. The LAPC-1 is the internal version of the MT-32, which is different from a GM/GS Sound Canvas. I love the LAPC-1/MT-32, but moreso for early DOS games with no GM support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82-T/A Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 In case you were looking for an excuse to keep the Sound Canvas, its quite different from the LAPC-1. The LAPC-1 is the internal version of the MT-32, which is different from a GM/GS Sound Canvas. I love the LAPC-1/MT-32, but moreso for early DOS games with no GM support. Yeah... I realized after I'd been saying LAPC-1 over and over... that what I actually have is the Roland SCC-1. It's an 8-bit card, does native MT-32, but also has the Sound Canvas sets too. This one... I have that in my Pentium 2 Server, it's a dual (cartridge) P2 with 233MHz chips, and a bunch of other stuff. It's an ACER ALTOS 1000 mini-server. It has a bunch of PCI slots... I "THINK" an AGP slot, if I'm not mistaken, and a bunch of 16-bit ISA slots as well. I have Windows 98 SE loaded on it, booting into DOS automatically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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