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#26 Dr Manhattan OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Sep 13, 2018 7:54 AM

Love this idea, behind it 100%. I had hoped someone would do something like this for years. I will definitely participate in any way possible.

My only concern, and this has already been mentioned, is the idea of having too many categories. Then it all just becomes like a participation trophy and thats just lame.

Speaking of trophies, will these awards have their very own iconic award statue? Possibly the community could vote on its design? Award shows have no merit without a nice trophy. While some may disagree, a trophy is a lot more impressive than a framed certificate that says A Winner Is You. They hold about as much weight as that certificate I got from Guam saying that I am a doctor.

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Posted Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:32 AM

I definitely think that physical release is an important criterion for judging.  So much work goes into the process of prepping a game for physical release that I think almost any game with a physical release is superior to a game that exists solely in the ether.  Maybe physical releases are their own category?

 

Definitely should be actual "trophies" for these awards.  I still have all of the "award carts" that Albert made for the old Stan Awards.  They were super cool.



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Posted Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:39 PM

Speaking of trophies, will these awards have their very own iconic award statue? Possibly the community could vote on its design? Award shows have no merit without a nice trophy. While some may disagree, a trophy is a lot more impressive than a framed certificate that says A Winner Is You. They hold about as much weight as that certificate I got from Guam saying that I am a doctor.

 

Definitely should be actual "trophies" for these awards.  I still have all of the "award carts" that Albert made for the old Stan Awards.  They were super cool.

We came up with an idea already (I think it was mentioned in one of the Zeropage Homebrew shows), but we are open to suggestions! Maybe one will be better than ours. ;-)



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Posted Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:48 PM

A lot of people will not know about the exact release dates. Therefore I suggest that someone compiles a (hint) list of the games which can be voted for. 

 

Cool! Yea a list would help. 

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Posted Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:55 PM

This idea is great! Would be a good opportunity to look at homebrews I haven't looked at originally.



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Posted Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:09 PM

Has the category of "Best Technical Achievement" for a specific platform been mentioned yet? I think that's an important one. There are some HB games on the 2600 that just don't seem physically possible, but they exist and it's amazing. I like this category idea because it will encourage talented devs to swing for the fences, to milk every bit of power out of our classic consoles, and be rewarded for their technical brilliance in the process. 



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Posted Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:10 PM

Please let us know if we've missed any games/hacks/demos that have been worked on in 2018 that you think should be included in the 2018 Atari Awards!! :-)

 

 

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Posted Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:12 PM

Definitely! "Best Technical Achievement" is a category under consideration as there have been some mind blowing audio/visual games coming out lately for the VCS!

 

Has the category of "Best Technical Achievement" for a specific platform been mentioned yet? I think that's an important one. There are some HB games on the 2600 that just don't seem physically possible, but they exist and it's amazing. I like this category idea because it will encourage talented devs to swing for the fences, to milk every bit of power out of our classic consoles, and be rewarded for their technical brilliance in the process. 



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Posted Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:56 AM

 

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Thanks! Please annotate games which use the ARM (bBasic and Assembler).



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Posted Fri Sep 14, 2018 3:07 AM

Has the category of "Best Technical Achievement" for a specific platform been mentioned yet? I think that's an important one. There are some HB games on the 2600 that just don't seem physically possible, but they exist and it's amazing. I like this category idea because it will encourage talented devs to swing for the fences, to milk every bit of power out of our classic consoles, and be rewarded for their technical brilliance in the process. 

Are we talking about general technical stuff or specific games here?

 

The former, e.g. getting the ARM utilized for being used in games and designing optimized drivers for it (DPC+, CDF, BUS) is IMO a major technical achievement. In that context building games based upon this provided infrastructure is not a technical achievement.
 

Or do you mean the latter, games which utilize the given hardware in an exceptional way?



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Posted Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:03 AM

 

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Thanks for the list!. The ROMs for most of these are available with just a few exceptions.

Maybe you should compile and post a ROM pack with all available final/latest versions in January to make voting easier.



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Posted Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:16 AM

The former, e.g. getting the ARM utilized for being used in games and designing optimized drivers for it (DPC+, CDF, BUS) is IMO a major technical achievement.

 

Yes, quite awesome actually. Very clever. Just not for me.



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Posted Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:18 AM

Yes, quite awesome actually. Very clever. Just not for me.

For my own projects, I am also sticking close to original hardware.



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Posted Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:11 AM

Found 2 more homebrews fom 2018 at itch.io:

 

Kelly Kangaroo

Turtle Bay

 

 



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Posted Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:39 AM

Why no 5200 or 7800 categories? I realize 2600 takes the lion's share of attention and interest, and likely sales from the store. But still, 7800 and 5200 dev continues, why not acknowledge in the Atari Awards?

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Posted Fri Sep 14, 2018 6:49 AM

Why no 5200 or 7800 categories? 

Because two of the organizers concentrate on the 2600 only.

 

Maybe the 5200 or 7800 scene should find some people who organize such an award too. Or participate in this one.



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Posted Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:32 PM

I'm just going through the list and realised that i was wrong - many of the ROMs are not available for download.

 

EDIT:

 

Or are there any ROMs available at the Atari 2600 Homebrew FB group? Can't check as i don't use Facebook.


Edited by Impaler_26, Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:53 PM.


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Posted Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:41 PM

I think links for where to download, purchase or watch footage of all the 2018 Atari Awards Nominees is a great idea! We'll make that happen in January when the nominees are announced for each category.

 

 

Thanks for the list!. The ROMs for most of these are available with just a few exceptions.

Maybe you should compile and post a ROM pack with all available final/latest versions in January to make voting easier.



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Posted Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:59 PM

 

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Yay, Amoeba Jump is on the list!

I'll make sure to do another release of the game somewhere in the coming months.



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Posted Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:38 PM

 

Yes, quite awesome actually. Very clever. Just not for me.

 

For my own projects, I am also sticking close to original hardware.

 

 

It seems there are roughly 3 ways to develop Homebrew-games for the Atari 2600:

  1. 6502 assembly only
  2. a combination or ARM and 6502 programming (DCP+, bus stuffing, etc.)
  3. batari BASIC (also supporting DCP+)

I think all 3 serve their own needs: 

  • 6502-only is how they mostly developed games during the hey-days of Atari 2600. Except Pitfall II of course, which used DPC (I'm not sure if more games used additional processors back then)
  • ARM/DPC+ is a natural evolution in cartridge hardware and enables games that weren't possible in the early days
  • batari BASIC allows for fast game development and targets those who are new to software- and game-development (less steep learning curve)

Myself, I'm sticking to original hardware limits: 6502 only and a maximum of 4K (so not even using bank-switching). I also take ice-water baths and for breakfast I drink raw eggs, haha.



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Posted Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:08 PM

I'm just going through the list and realised that i was wrong - many of the ROMs are not available for download.

 

EDIT:

 

Or are there any ROMs available at the Atari 2600 Homebrew FB group? Can't check as i don't use Facebook.

Only a few may not be available for download (for one reason or another - currently) and some are WIP with no ROM released (at this moment) but I added them to list in anticipation of a ROM release before the end of this year.

 

And yes, some ROMs have been posted thru Scott Dayton's "Atari 2600 Homebrew FB group" exclusively and not here at AA.



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Posted Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:45 PM

 

Yay, Amoeba Jump is on the list!

I'll make sure to do another release of the game somewhere in the coming months.

Good! Keep them coming!

 

BTW - the list has been updated!  https://drive.google...iew?usp=sharing



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Posted Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:06 AM

Good! Keep them coming!

 

BTW - the list has been updated!  https://drive.google...iew?usp=sharing

Good Job!

 

2 games need additional info:

 

Baby is also available at itch.io for $1.

 

Kelly Kangaroo is made with batari Basic and according to the itch.io page it's still a WIP.



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Posted Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:23 PM

Good Job!

 

2 games need additional info:

 

Baby is also available at itch.io for $1.

 

Kelly Kangaroo is made with batari Basic and according to the itch.io page it's still a WIP.

Done! Thanks!



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Posted Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:02 PM

But the recent spate of coprocessors on the cartridge is definitely Not a level playing field. You can't fairly compare a game with an on board high speed Arm chip doing bus stuffing and other computational assists to a vanilla game limited to just the 6507 and what it can do. Those should be two distinct categories at least.

Agreed. A separate category should be mandatory for these. Best Vanilla game, and best hardware enhanced game etc. 







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