TigerSuperman Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) Kinect had a lot of things going for it. The fastest selling consumer electronics device of all time, 35 million sold (likely 28 million 360 the rest Xbox One), and extending the life of the Xbox 360 for another 3 years. But has it aged well? Kinect is an interesting piece of kit, Microsoft sold 35 million Kinects overall which would make Kinect the 15th best selling gaming device of all time above the N64. So let's take a look at the top 10 highest rated games from the Kinect gaming library according to Metacritic. Dance Central 2 Dance Central 3 Child of Eden Dance Central Sesame Street Once Upon A Monster Kinect NAT GEO TV The Gunstringer Your Shape Fitness Evolved Just Dance 4 Kinectimals Many of you will see this list and immediately come to the conclusion that Kinect has aged horribly and was likely a product of the time. I would have to say I agree with that conclusion. Kinect was great technology in the medical field, engineering fields, science Labs, research Institutes, virtual marketing, and others, but not really so much for games. Out of the highest rated Kinect games, The Gunstringer is the only one on the list that most would qualify as a real game. I'm not going to attack Microsoft too hard here though, they did at least attempt to make hardcore games work on the Kinect. They helped put out games like Virtua Tennis 4, Steel Battalion, Fable the Journey, Kung Fu High Impact, Rise of Nightmares, Adrenalin Misfits, Sonic Free Riders, BlackWater, Fighters Uncaged, and Dragon Ball Z Kinect. The problem was all these games sucked. For a device that sold 35 million units with multiple game releases there's really nothing much to play. Defenders could have maybe debated this a few years ago, but 8 years later it's clear Kinect basically has nothing to show for itself. It's library is completely worthless and you can commonly find games for as low as $1 in many stores. The only pass I'll give Microsoft is not knowing how well Kinect would be for gaming at launch. By 2012 or 2013 however it should have been obvious to them and everyone else that putting continuing focus on Kinect would be a mistake. Also did anyone ever find Milo? Apparently he's still missing. Edited October 2, 2018 by TigerSuperman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1500 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Why do these posts keep happening? A new account with under 100 posts, asking some big question with pictures, etc. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digdugnate Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 let's just compare the Power Glove to the Kinect while we're at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Also did anyone ever find Milo? Apparently he's still missing. I think he ran off with Biff. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Why do these posts keep happening? Well then what are we supposed to discuss? At least its gaming related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Ragan Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Assuming this post was made in good faith... I think the Kinect was a noble experiment, and a noble failure. Under ideal conditions, it can be pretty accurate, and it just feels more realistic than shaking a wand at a television. Have you tried the two Kinect Sports titles? Bowling and golf on those two discs is excellent... you have to pluck the ball out of the ball return in bowling, and toss it into the lane with the same motions you'd use in the real sport. It's pretty authentic... and it's fun, too! The game's got a sense of pageantry that you don't really get out of Wii Sports, with licensed music blaring out of the speakers when you score strikes. The other games I've tried are a little too exhausting... if you're overweight, Dance Central will threaten to take you from the dance floor to the morgue. But seriously, I liked the concept of the Kinect, even if the execution was lacking. It's how technology works... you get a good idea, you try to make it work with the technology available, and that first implementation is flawed. Those flaws tend to get ironed out in later iterations. Kinect 2.0 on the Xbox One probably would have been that smoothed out experience, if Microsoft hadn't gotten so aggressive with DRM and user surveillance. That just ensured that nobody would touch it. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerSuperman Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 Assuming this post was made in good faith... I think the Kinect was a noble experiment, and a noble failure. Under ideal conditions, it can be pretty accurate, and it just feels more realistic than shaking a wand at a television. Have you tried the two Kinect Sports titles? Bowling and golf on those two discs is excellent... you have to pluck the ball out of the ball return in bowling, and toss it into the lane with the same motions you'd use in the real sport. It's pretty authentic... and it's fun, too! The game's got a sense of pageantry that you don't really get out of Wii Sports, with licensed music blaring out of the speakers when you score strikes. The other games I've tried are a little too exhausting... if you're overweight, Dance Central will threaten to take you from the dance floor to the morgue. But seriously, I liked the concept of the Kinect, even if the execution was lacking. It's how technology works... you get a good idea, you try to make it work with the technology available, and that first implementation is flawed. Those flaws tend to get ironed out in later iterations. Kinect 2.0 on the Xbox One probably would have been that smoothed out experience, if Microsoft hadn't gotten so aggressive with DRM and user surveillance. That just ensured that nobody would touch it. It's funny you mention Kinect 2.0 as even before it was removed from new XBO bundles in summer 2014 there were only a few games released for it retail. It always made me think about whether Microsoft was questioning if Kinect would still be popular, but didn't want to go all in on 2.0 just in case it ended up failing. The original reason Kinect was bundled was for the mandatory 24 hour check-ins to use the console if I recall. With that gone I wonder if they started second guessing Kinect 2.0 since there was no longer an excuse to make it mandatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Kinect seems a lot older than 8 years ago to me. It was a failure for "hardcore gamers" (ugh) but it's the only reason I still have an XB360 hooked up. Kinect Party and Just Dance are huge hits with tween girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Hopefully he will get bored soon enough. I don't know why you guys keep falling for this troll. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamemoose Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Hopefully he will get bored soon enough. I don't know why you guys keep falling for this troll. But...it's tiger...and Superman...mix with Adonis DNA...what a combo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamchevy Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 37 years and 11 months, How has the Atari 400 aged? Well I think it has done pretty well! Considering this list of games: 50 Mission Crush 180 (video game) 221B Baker Street (video game) A Aardvark (video game) Ace of Aces (video game) Action Biker The Activision Decathlon Adventureland (video game) Agent USA Air Support Airball (video game) Airwolf (video game) Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves (video game) Alien Garden Alley Cat (video game) Alternate Reality (series) Alternate Reality: The City Alternate Reality: The Dungeon Amaurote Apple Panic The Arcade Machine Archon II: Adept Archon: The Light and the Dark Arkanoid Asteroids (video game) Astro Chase Asylum (1981 video game) Atlantis (video game) Attack at EP-CYG-4 Attack of the Mutant Camels Autoduel Avalanche (video game) Axis Assassin Aztec (video game) Aztec Challenge B B-1 Nuclear Bomber B.C.'s Quest for Tires Ballblazer Ballyhoo (video game) Basketball (1978 video game) Battlezone (1980 video game) Beach Head (video game) Beach Head II: The Dictator Strikes Back Beamrider Beneath Apple Manor Beyond Castle Wolfenstein Bismarck (video game) Black Lamp (video game) Blue Max (video game) Blue Max 2001 BMX Simulator Boulder Dash Boulders and Bombs Bounty Bob Strikes Back! Brain Strainers Broadsides (video game) Bruce Lee (video game) Buck Rogers: Planet of Zoom C Canyon Climber Captain Beeble Capture the Flag (video game) Carnival (video game) Cassette 50 Castle Wolfenstein Cavelord Caverns of Mars Centipede (video game) Championship Lode Runner Chessmaster Chessmaster 2000 Chicken (video game) Chimera (video game) Choplifter Chuckie Egg Colonial Conquest Colony (video game) Colossus Chess Computer Baseball Computer Football Strategy Conan: Hall of Volta Congo Bongo Cops 'n' Robbers Cosmic Balance II The Cosmic Balance The Count (video game) Crossbow (video game) Crossfire (1981 video game) Crush, Crumble and Chomp! Crystal Castles (video game) Cuthbert Goes Walkabout Cutthroats (video game) Cytron Masters D Kenny Dalglish Soccer Manager Dallas Quest Dandy (video game) The Dark Crystal (video game) The Datestones of Ryn David's Midnight Magic Deadline (video game) Defender (1981 video game) Demon Attack Diamond Mine (video game) Dig Dug Dimension X (video game) Donkey Kong (video game) Donkey Kong Jr. Draconus Dragon's Eye (video game) Dragonriders of Pern (video game) The Dreadnaught Factor Drelbs Drol Dropzone Druid (video game) Ducks Ahoy! Dung Beetles (video game) Dunzhin E Early Games Eastern Front (1941) The Eidolon Electrician (video game) Emerald Isle (video game) Empire of the Overmind Enchanter (video game) Encounter (video game) Epidemic! 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Hawkquest Hazard Run Head over Heels (video game) Heartlight (video game) Herbert (video game) The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (video game) Hollywood Hijinx Hover Bovver Hunchback (video game) I In Search of the Most Amazing Thing Infidel (video game) Infiltrator (video game) Ingrid's Back The Institute (video game) International Karate Into the Eagle's Nest Invasion Orion J James Bond 007 (1983 video game) Jawbreaker (video game) Jet Set Willy Jet-Boot Jack Jewels of Darkness Jinxter Jocky Wilson's Darts Challenge Joe Blade Journey to the Planets Joust (video game) Jumping Jack (video game) Jumpman (video game) Jungle Hunt Juno First K K-Razy Shoot-Out K Kaboom! (video game) Kaiser (video game) Kangaroo (video game) Karateka (video game) Kennedy Approach Keystone Kapers Kick Off (series) Kids on Keys Knight Orc Knights of the Desert Koronis Rift L L.A. 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Return of the Jedi: Death Star Battle River Raid River Rescue Robbo (video game) Robotron: 2084 Rockford (video game) Rodent's Revenge Rogue (video game) Rush'n Attack S Salmon Run (video game) Sargon III Savage Pond Scapeghost Scram (video game) Sea Dragon (video game) Sea Wolf (video game) Seastalker The Serpent's Star Serpentine (video game) The Seven Cities of Gold (video game) Shadow World (video game) Shamus (video game) Shamus: Case II Shanghai (video game) The Shattered Alliance Silent Service (video game) Silicon Dreams Slime (video game) Snake Byte Snooper Troops Softporn Adventure Solo Flight (video game) Sorcerer (video game) Space Invaders Space Shuttle: A Journey into Space Speed Run (video game) Spellbound (video game) Spellbreaker Spelunker (video game) Spindizzy (video game) Spitfire Ace Spy Hunter Spy vs. Spy (1984 video game) Spy's Demise Squish 'em Star Fire Star Fleet I: The War Begins Star Raiders Star Raiders II Star Trek (arcade game) Star Warrior Star Wars (1983 video game) Starbase Hyperion Starcross (video game) Starquake (video game) Stationfall Steve Davis Snooker Stone of Sisyphys (video game) Strange Odyssey Strip Poker (video game series) Submarine Commander Sumer (video game) Summer Games (video game) Super Breakout Super Cobra Superman: The Game Survivor (1982 video game) Survivors (video game) Suspect (video game) Suspended (video game) T The Tail of Beta Lyrae Tanktics: Computer Game of Armored Combat on the Eastern Front Tapper (video game) Telengard Temple of Apshai Theatre Europe Thrust (video game) T Tigers in the Snow Time and Magik Track & Field (video game) Trailblazer (video game) Transylvania (series) Typo Attack U Ultima II: The Revenge of the Enchantress Ultima III: Exodus Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar Ultima I: The First Age of Darkness Ulysses and the Golden Fleece Universal Hero Universe (1983 video game) Up'n Down V Voodoo Castle W Wargame Construction Set WarGames (video game) Warhawk (1986 video game) Wavy Navy (video game) Wayout Who Dares Wins II Wishbringer The Witness (1983 video game) Wizard and the Princess Wizard of Wor Wizard's Crown Worms? Z Zaxxon Zenji (video game) Zork Zork I Zork II Zork III Zorro (video game) Zybex What do you think??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Pez Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I really like motion controlled devices. I just wish companies would not give up on this stuff too soon and keep trying to improve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBerel Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Let us just cut to the chase...... Biff is awesome Biff is interesting Biff is so insightful Michael Slifker is not at all sick in the head He knows sooo much None of us can wait for the next post from Biffster There's no point in arguing, this guy has it goin' on He's a practical encyclopedia of useless information Men respect him Women adore him All the little animals want to rub their junk on him Now.....if we've stroked this weenie's ego enough for one day, do you think he will gtfo? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamchevy Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I think I counted wrong, oh well. It’s been about 40 years. I doubt the Kinect will still be working 40 years from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Ragan Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Okay, idea. The AtariAge mods should do an IP ban. That way, the sock puppets will stop posting, and I can stop hearing about sock puppets. (Also, some of these topics would actually make for good discussion. Maybe the regulars could post something interesting so the sock puppets wouldn't have to pick up the slack.) 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBerel Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I hear ya about the content. The problem is the sock puppeteer (Biff / Michael Slifker / Slifker Games / Biff's gaming videos, et al) only posts to suck you in and then pick apart anything anyone says in a pathetic attempt to come off as knowledgeable and superior. He just stroking his feeble ego and you guys keep buyin it. The man-child has been banned multiple times and every new post he makes is a further violation of the site's terms of use. He spent his 50th birthday desperately trying to make some DMCA attack to take down the site and posting personal info about the site owner which is totally out of bounds. Then he obsessively posts under numerous bogus accounts to screw with you all. In truth he's so desperately in need of attention, he can't stay away. Still, he won't be taken seriously or given any slack until he at a minimum does the following: 1. Post a public and honest apology to Albert, the Mods and every member on these forums for his asinine behavior. 2. List every last fake user account he's created 3. Subscribe to the site to make up for the damage he's been doing and other people's time he's wasted. 4. Pledges to stop being an instigator to feed his misplaced superiority complex I can't speak for the admins, but maybe after doing that, he can once again be a tolerated contributing member to this community. He has the ability to be a worthwhile contributor, but since he went off the rails, he's nothing more than a pest out to sabotage the place. If he's not willing to take the steps above, he can pound sand. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Ragan Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 It's real easy, man. Turn off new registrations. Anyone who wants to be a member of the site has to discuss it with a moderator first. If AtariAge doesn't want to take serious steps to curb troll behavior, then they're going to have the same problems, over and over again. We're also going to get a lot of suspicion over which members are posting in good faith, and that hurts the forum as much as anything Biff or whoever can do. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightbit Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I'm 43, I have: 1. Massive lower back pain 2. Thyroid issues 3. Cholesterol issues 4. Hair loss 5. No tolerance for these idiotic topics How have I aged? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+thanatos Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I'm 43, I have: 1. Massive lower back pain 2. Thyroid issues 3. Cholesterol issues 4. Hair loss 5. No tolerance for these idiotic topics How have I aged? I am just slightly older than you, but only have #4 and #5 so far. Considering my PBR, fried chicken and red meat, and nicotine intake, I believe we can say genetics are coming into play here. What do you think? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 It's real easy, man. Turn off new registrations. Anyone who wants to be a member of the site has to discuss it with a moderator first. If AtariAge doesn't want to take serious steps to curb troll behavior, then they're going to have the same problems, over and over again. We're also going to get a lot of suspicion over which members are posting in good faith, and that hurts the forum as much as anything Biff or whoever can do. Suggestions are good though I disagree about new registrations -- this site gets new people every day, and most of them behave themselves. Most people lurk or just visit occasionally, I would think. Maybe restricting the ability to make new topics would help. Some of the best discussions are long, open ended threads. It's the "x vs y" or "what could Mattel have done to make intellivison bigger than jesus" threads (and their subsequent McLaughlin Group style shout downs of "WRONG!") that are so tiresome. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamchevy Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 I actually don’t mind the topic. I’m not sure why people can’t post under multiple accounts? Maybe it’s forum policy? Maybe that should be a new topic. Do you have multiple Atariage accounts that you post with and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamemoose Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 I'm 43, I have: 1. Massive lower back pain 2. Thyroid issues 3. Cholesterol issues 4. Hair loss 5. No tolerance for these idiotic topics How have I aged? I'm about your age. I'll see your 1-5 and raise with hypertension. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Ragan Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 I actually don’t mind the topic. I’m not sure why people can’t post under multiple accounts? Maybe it’s forum policy? Maybe that should be a new topic. Do you have multiple Atariage accounts that you post with and why? If it's an evasion of a previous ban there's no reason someone SHOULD have multiple accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 People creating second accounts, that are busted, risk the possibility of being banned all together. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 (Also, some of these topics would actually make for good discussion. Maybe the regulars could post something interesting so the sock puppets wouldn't have to pick up the slack.) I honestly think this is an awesome topic but avoided replying just because of the time it would take! LOL If this guy is a troll, he's a polite one with an interesting way of trolling, unless he's about to tell everyone who posted in this thread they a loser fart suckers and he hates Kinect because it's for pussies. That said. I always kind of liked the Kinect. What I've played using it anyways. Admittedly isn't a lot, but what I did I always had fun with. I used YourShape for a few weeks (probably need to break that back out!) Child of Eden and Leela were interesting and different, so I always considered them a win. I could see how some would not enjoy these simplified games. It is completely un-nessesary, and basically just a gimmick but that's not unlike almost every peripheral I can think of. I never thought it should have been carried over to the Xbox One and looking back, making it a pack in for the original Xbox One unit was a huge mistake for Microsoft. That said, I'd really enjoy an afternoon of Kinect games every now and again. Or Wii games for that matter. *sigh* Even with not working, and no kids (grandkids) I still struggle to play all the games I want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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