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8 years later, How has Kinect Aged as a gaming device?


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Kinect had a lot of things going for it. The fastest selling consumer electronics device of all time, 35 million sold (likely 28 million 360 the rest Xbox One), and extending the life of the Xbox 360 for another 3 years. But has it aged well?

 

Kinect is an interesting piece of kit, Microsoft sold 35 million Kinects overall which would make Kinect the 15th best selling gaming device of all time above the N64. So let's take a look at the top 10 highest rated games from the Kinect gaming library according to Metacritic.

 

Dance Central 2

Dance Central 3

Child of Eden

Dance Central

Sesame Street Once Upon A Monster

Kinect NAT GEO TV

The Gunstringer

Your Shape Fitness Evolved

Just Dance 4

Kinectimals

 

Many of you will see this list and immediately come to the conclusion that Kinect has aged horribly and was likely a product of the time. I would have to say I agree with that conclusion.

 

Kinect was great technology in the medical field, engineering fields, science Labs, research Institutes, virtual marketing, and others, but not really so much for games. Out of the highest rated Kinect games, The Gunstringer is the only one on the list that most would qualify as a real game.

 

I'm not going to attack Microsoft too hard here though, they did at least attempt to make hardcore games work on the Kinect. They helped put out games like Virtua Tennis 4, Steel Battalion, Fable the Journey, Kung Fu High Impact, Rise of Nightmares, Adrenalin Misfits, Sonic Free Riders, BlackWater, Fighters Uncaged, and Dragon Ball Z Kinect.

 

The problem was all these games sucked. For a device that sold 35 million units with multiple game releases there's really nothing much to play. Defenders could have maybe debated this a few years ago, but 8 years later it's clear Kinect basically has nothing to show for itself. It's library is completely worthless and you can commonly find games for as low as $1 in many stores.

 

The only pass I'll give Microsoft is not knowing how well Kinect would be for gaming at launch. By 2012 or 2013 however it should have been obvious to them and everyone else that putting continuing focus on Kinect would be a mistake.

 

Also did anyone ever find Milo? Apparently he's still missing.

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Assuming this post was made in good faith...

 

I think the Kinect was a noble experiment, and a noble failure. Under ideal conditions, it can be pretty accurate, and it just feels more realistic than shaking a wand at a television. Have you tried the two Kinect Sports titles? Bowling and golf on those two discs is excellent... you have to pluck the ball out of the ball return in bowling, and toss it into the lane with the same motions you'd use in the real sport. It's pretty authentic... and it's fun, too! The game's got a sense of pageantry that you don't really get out of Wii Sports, with licensed music blaring out of the speakers when you score strikes.

 

The other games I've tried are a little too exhausting... if you're overweight, Dance Central will threaten to take you from the dance floor to the morgue. But seriously, I liked the concept of the Kinect, even if the execution was lacking. It's how technology works... you get a good idea, you try to make it work with the technology available, and that first implementation is flawed. Those flaws tend to get ironed out in later iterations. Kinect 2.0 on the Xbox One probably would have been that smoothed out experience, if Microsoft hadn't gotten so aggressive with DRM and user surveillance. That just ensured that nobody would touch it.

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Assuming this post was made in good faith...

 

I think the Kinect was a noble experiment, and a noble failure. Under ideal conditions, it can be pretty accurate, and it just feels more realistic than shaking a wand at a television. Have you tried the two Kinect Sports titles? Bowling and golf on those two discs is excellent... you have to pluck the ball out of the ball return in bowling, and toss it into the lane with the same motions you'd use in the real sport. It's pretty authentic... and it's fun, too! The game's got a sense of pageantry that you don't really get out of Wii Sports, with licensed music blaring out of the speakers when you score strikes.

 

The other games I've tried are a little too exhausting... if you're overweight, Dance Central will threaten to take you from the dance floor to the morgue. But seriously, I liked the concept of the Kinect, even if the execution was lacking. It's how technology works... you get a good idea, you try to make it work with the technology available, and that first implementation is flawed. Those flaws tend to get ironed out in later iterations. Kinect 2.0 on the Xbox One probably would have been that smoothed out experience, if Microsoft hadn't gotten so aggressive with DRM and user surveillance. That just ensured that nobody would touch it.

It's funny you mention Kinect 2.0 as even before it was removed from new XBO bundles in summer 2014 there were only a few games released for it retail. It always made me think about whether Microsoft was questioning if Kinect would still be popular, but didn't want to go all in on 2.0 just in case it ended up failing.

 

The original reason Kinect was bundled was for the mandatory 24 hour check-ins to use the console if I recall. With that gone I wonder if they started second guessing Kinect 2.0 since there was no longer an excuse to make it mandatory.

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37 years and 11 months, How has the Atari 400 aged?

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Well I think it has done pretty well!

 

Considering this list of games:

 

50 Mission Crush

180 (video game)

221B Baker Street (video game)

A

Aardvark (video game)

Ace of Aces (video game)

Action Biker

The Activision Decathlon

Adventureland (video game)

Agent USA

Air Support

Airball (video game)

Airwolf (video game)

Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves (video game)

Alien Garden

Alley Cat (video game)

Alternate Reality (series)

Alternate Reality: The City

Alternate Reality: The Dungeon

Amaurote

Apple Panic

The Arcade Machine

Archon II: Adept

Archon: The Light and the Dark

Arkanoid

Asteroids (video game)

Astro Chase

Asylum (1981 video game)

Atlantis (video game)

Attack at EP-CYG-4

Attack of the Mutant Camels

Autoduel

Avalanche (video game)

Axis Assassin

Aztec (video game)

Aztec Challenge

B

B-1 Nuclear Bomber

B.C.'s Quest for Tires

Ballblazer

Ballyhoo (video game)

Basketball (1978 video game)

Battlezone (1980 video game)

Beach Head (video game)

Beach Head II: The Dictator Strikes Back

Beamrider

Beneath Apple Manor

Beyond Castle Wolfenstein

Bismarck (video game)

Black Lamp (video game)

Blue Max (video game)

Blue Max 2001

BMX Simulator

Boulder Dash

Boulders and Bombs

Bounty Bob Strikes Back!

Brain Strainers

Broadsides (video game)

Bruce Lee (video game)

Buck Rogers: Planet of Zoom

C

Canyon Climber

Captain Beeble

Capture the Flag (video game)

Carnival (video game)

Cassette 50

Castle Wolfenstein

Cavelord

Caverns of Mars

Centipede (video game)

Championship Lode Runner

Chessmaster

Chessmaster 2000

Chicken (video game)

Chimera (video game)

Choplifter

Chuckie Egg

Colonial Conquest

Colony (video game)

Colossus Chess

Computer Baseball

Computer Football Strategy

Conan: Hall of Volta

Congo Bongo

Cops 'n' Robbers

Cosmic Balance II

The Cosmic Balance

The Count (video game)

Crossbow (video game)

Crossfire (1981 video game)

Crush, Crumble and Chomp!

Crystal Castles (video game)

Cuthbert Goes Walkabout

Cutthroats (video game)

Cytron Masters

D

Kenny Dalglish Soccer Manager

Dallas Quest

Dandy (video game)

The Dark Crystal (video game)

The Datestones of Ryn

David's Midnight Magic

Deadline (video game)

Defender (1981 video game)

Demon Attack

Diamond Mine (video game)

Dig Dug

Dimension X (video game)

Donkey Kong (video game)

Donkey Kong Jr.

Draconus

Dragon's Eye (video game)

Dragonriders of Pern (video game)

The Dreadnaught Factor

Drelbs

Drol

Dropzone

Druid (video game)

Ducks Ahoy!

Dung Beetles (video game)

Dunzhin

E

Early Games

Eastern Front (1941)

The Eidolon

Electrician (video game)

Emerald Isle (video game)

Empire of the Overmind

Enchanter (video game)

Encounter (video game)

Epidemic!

Escape from the Dungeons of the Gods

The Eternal Dagger

Excalibur (video game)

F

F-15 Strike Eagle (video game)

Feud (video game)

Fight Night (1985 video game)

Flight Simulator (subLOGIC software)

Flip and Flop

Fooblitzky

Food Fight (video game)

Football Manager (1982 series)

Forbidden Forest (video game)

Fort Apocalypse

Fraction Fever

Frogger

Frogger II: ThreeeDeep!

G

Galactic Empire (1980 video game)

Galahad and the Holy Grail

Galaxian

Gateway to Apshai

Gato (video game)

Gauntlet (Donald R. Lebeau video game)

Gemstone Warrior

Getaway! (video game)

Ghost Town (video game)

Gnome Ranger

Gorf

Gossip (video game)

Grand Prix Simulator

The Great American Cross-Country Road Race

Gridrunner

The Guild of Thieves

Gumball (video game)

Gun Fight

Gyruss

H

H.E.R.O.

Hacker (video game)

The Halley Project

Hans Kloss (video game)

Hard Hat Mack

HardBall!

Hawkquest

Hazard Run

Head over Heels (video game)

Heartlight (video game)

Herbert (video game)

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (video game)

Hollywood Hijinx

Hover Bovver

Hunchback (video game)

I

In Search of the Most Amazing Thing

Infidel (video game)

Infiltrator (video game)

Ingrid's Back

The Institute (video game)

International Karate

Into the Eagle's Nest

Invasion Orion

J

James Bond 007 (1983 video game)

Jawbreaker (video game)

Jet Set Willy

Jet-Boot Jack

Jewels of Darkness

Jinxter

Jocky Wilson's Darts Challenge

Joe Blade

Journey to the Planets

Joust (video game)

Jumping Jack (video game)

Jumpman (video game)

Jungle Hunt

Juno First

K

K-Razy Shoot-Out

K

Kaboom! (video game)

Kaiser (video game)

Kangaroo (video game)

Karateka (video game)

Kennedy Approach

Keystone Kapers

Kick Off (series)

Kids on Keys

Knight Orc

Knights of the Desert

Koronis Rift

L

L.A. SWAT

Lancelot (video game)

Laser Chess

Laser Hawk

The Last V8

Leader Board

Learning with Leeper

Leather Goddesses of Phobos

Legionnaire (video game)

The Living Daylights (video game)

Loco (video game)

Lode Runner

Lode Runner's Rescue

Lombard RAC Rally (video game)

Lords of Karma

Lords of Time

Lunar Lander (video game genre)

Lunar Leepers

The Lurking Horror

M

M.U.L.E.

Mail Order Monsters

Mario Bros.

The Mask of the Sun

Master of the Lamps

Math Blaster!

Megamania

Mercenary (video game)

MicroLeague Baseball

Midway Campaign

Milk Race (video game)

Millipede (video game)

Mindshadow (video game)

Miner 2049er

Missile Command

Mission Asteroid

Molecule Man (video game)

Montezuma's Revenge (video game)

Moon Patrol

Moonmist

Mountain King (video game)

Mózgprocesor

Mr. Do!

Mr. Do's Castle

Mr. Robot and His Robot Factory

Ms. Pac-Man

Murder on the Zinderneuf

My First Alphabet

Mystery Fun House (video game)

N

NATO Commander

Naturix

Nautilus (video game)

Necromancer (video game)

New York City (video game)

Nibbler (video game)

Ninja (1986 video game)

O

Ogre (video game)

Oil's Well

One Man and His Droid

One on One: Dr. J vs. Larry Bird

Operation Sabotage

Orc Attack

P

Pac-Man

Pacific Coast Highway (video game)

Panther (1986 video game)

The Pawn

Pengo (video game)

Perseus and Andromeda (video game)

Richard Petty's Talladega

Phantasie

Phantasie (video game)

Phantasie II

Pharaoh's Curse (video game)

Picnic Paranoia (video game)

Pinball Construction Set

Pirate Adventure

Pitfall!

Pitfall II: Lost Caverns

Pitstop (video game)

Pitstop II

Planet Miners

Planetfall

Plundered Hearts

Pogo Joe

Pole Position

Pooyan

Popeye (video game)

Porky's (video game)

Preppie! (video game)

The Prisoner (video game)

Protector (video game)

Puzzle Panic

Pyramid of Doom

Q

Q*bert

Qix

Quest 1

The Quest (1983 video game)

Questprobe

Questron

Questron (video game)

R

Racing Destruction Set

Raid over Moscow

Rainbow Walker

Rally Speedway

Rampage (video game)

Raster Blaster

Reader Rabbit (video game)

Realm of Impossibility

RealSports Football

Rear Guard (video game)

Repton (1983 video game)

Rescue at Rigel

Rescue on Fractalus!

Return of the Jedi: Death Star Battle

River Raid

River Rescue

Robbo (video game)

Robotron: 2084

Rockford (video game)

Rodent's Revenge

Rogue (video game)

Rush'n Attack

S

Salmon Run (video game)

Sargon III

Savage Pond

Scapeghost

Scram (video game)

Sea Dragon (video game)

Sea Wolf (video game)

Seastalker

The Serpent's Star

Serpentine (video game)

The Seven Cities of Gold (video game)

Shadow World (video game)

Shamus (video game)

Shamus: Case II

Shanghai (video game)

The Shattered Alliance

Silent Service (video game)

Silicon Dreams

Slime (video game)

Snake Byte

Snooper Troops

Softporn Adventure

Solo Flight (video game)

Sorcerer (video game)

Space Invaders

Space Shuttle: A Journey into Space

Speed Run (video game)

Spellbound (video game)

Spellbreaker

Spelunker (video game)

Spindizzy (video game)

Spitfire Ace

Spy Hunter

Spy vs. Spy (1984 video game)

Spy's Demise

Squish 'em

Star Fire

Star Fleet I: The War Begins

Star Raiders

Star Raiders II

Star Trek (arcade game)

Star Warrior

Star Wars (1983 video game)

Starbase Hyperion

Starcross (video game)

Starquake (video game)

Stationfall

Steve Davis Snooker

Stone of Sisyphys (video game)

Strange Odyssey

Strip Poker (video game series)

Submarine Commander

Sumer (video game)

Summer Games (video game)

Super Breakout

Super Cobra

Superman: The Game

Survivor (1982 video game)

Survivors (video game)

Suspect (video game)

Suspended (video game)

T

The Tail of Beta Lyrae

Tanktics: Computer Game of Armored Combat on the Eastern Front

Tapper (video game)

Telengard

Temple of Apshai

Theatre Europe

Thrust (video game)

T

Tigers in the Snow

Time and Magik

Track & Field (video game)

Trailblazer (video game)

Transylvania (series)

Typo Attack

U

Ultima II: The Revenge of the Enchantress

Ultima III: Exodus

Ultima IV: Quest of the Avatar

Ultima I: The First Age of Darkness

Ulysses and the Golden Fleece

Universal Hero

Universe (1983 video game)

Up'n Down

V

Voodoo Castle

W

Wargame Construction Set

WarGames (video game)

Warhawk (1986 video game)

Wavy Navy (video game)

Wayout

Who Dares Wins II

Wishbringer

The Witness (1983 video game)

Wizard and the Princess

Wizard of Wor

Wizard's Crown

Worms?

Z

Zaxxon

Zenji (video game)

Zork

Zork I

Zork II

Zork III

Zorro (video game)

Zybex

 

 

What do you think???

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Let us just cut to the chase......

 

Biff is awesome

Biff is interesting

Biff is so insightful

Michael Slifker is not at all sick in the head

He knows sooo much

None of us can wait for the next post from Biffster

There's no point in arguing, this guy has it goin' on

He's a practical encyclopedia of useless information

Men respect him

Women adore him

All the little animals want to rub their junk on him

 

 

 

Now.....if we've stroked this weenie's ego enough for one day, do you think he will gtfo?

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Okay, idea. The AtariAge mods should do an IP ban. That way, the sock puppets will stop posting, and I can stop hearing about sock puppets. (Also, some of these topics would actually make for good discussion. Maybe the regulars could post something interesting so the sock puppets wouldn't have to pick up the slack.)

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I hear ya about the content. The problem is the sock puppeteer (Biff / Michael Slifker / Slifker Games / Biff's gaming videos, et al) only posts to suck you in and then pick apart anything anyone says in a pathetic attempt to come off as knowledgeable and superior. He just stroking his feeble ego and you guys keep buyin it.

 

The man-child has been banned multiple times and every new post he makes is a further violation of the site's terms of use. He spent his 50th birthday desperately trying to make some DMCA attack to take down the site and posting personal info about the site owner which is totally out of bounds. Then he obsessively posts under numerous bogus accounts to screw with you all. In truth he's so desperately in need of attention, he can't stay away. Still, he won't be taken seriously or given any slack until he at a minimum does the following:

 

1. Post a public and honest apology to Albert, the Mods and every member on these forums for his asinine behavior.

2. List every last fake user account he's created

3. Subscribe to the site to make up for the damage he's been doing and other people's time he's wasted.

4. Pledges to stop being an instigator to feed his misplaced superiority complex

 

I can't speak for the admins, but maybe after doing that, he can once again be a tolerated contributing member to this community. He has the ability to be a worthwhile contributor, but since he went off the rails, he's nothing more than a pest out to sabotage the place. If he's not willing to take the steps above, he can pound sand.

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It's real easy, man. Turn off new registrations. Anyone who wants to be a member of the site has to discuss it with a moderator first. If AtariAge doesn't want to take serious steps to curb troll behavior, then they're going to have the same problems, over and over again. We're also going to get a lot of suspicion over which members are posting in good faith, and that hurts the forum as much as anything Biff or whoever can do.

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I'm 43, I have:

 

1. Massive lower back pain

2. Thyroid issues

3. Cholesterol issues

4. Hair loss

5. No tolerance for these idiotic topics

 

How have I aged?

I am just slightly older than you, but only have #4 and #5 so far. Considering my PBR, fried chicken and red meat, and nicotine intake, I believe we can say genetics are coming into play here. What do you think?

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It's real easy, man. Turn off new registrations. Anyone who wants to be a member of the site has to discuss it with a moderator first. If AtariAge doesn't want to take serious steps to curb troll behavior, then they're going to have the same problems, over and over again. We're also going to get a lot of suspicion over which members are posting in good faith, and that hurts the forum as much as anything Biff or whoever can do.

Suggestions are good though I disagree about new registrations -- this site gets new people every day, and most of them behave themselves. Most people lurk or just visit occasionally, I would think. Maybe restricting the ability to make new topics would help. Some of the best discussions are long, open ended threads. It's the "x vs y" or "what could Mattel have done to make intellivison bigger than jesus" threads (and their subsequent McLaughlin Group style shout downs of "WRONG!") that are so tiresome.

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I actually don’t mind the topic. I’m not sure why people can’t post under multiple accounts? Maybe it’s forum policy? Maybe that should be a new topic. Do you have multiple Atariage accounts that you post with and why?

 

If it's an evasion of a previous ban there's no reason someone SHOULD have multiple accounts.

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(Also, some of these topics would actually make for good discussion. Maybe the regulars could post something interesting so the sock puppets wouldn't have to pick up the slack.)

I honestly think this is an awesome topic but avoided replying just because of the time it would take! LOL

If this guy is a troll, he's a polite one with an interesting way of trolling, unless he's about to tell everyone who posted in this thread they a loser fart suckers and he hates Kinect because it's for pussies.

 

That said.

 

I always kind of liked the Kinect. What I've played using it anyways. Admittedly isn't a lot, but what I did I always had fun with. I used YourShape for a few weeks (probably need to break that back out!) Child of Eden and Leela were interesting and different, so I always considered them a win. I could see how some would not enjoy these simplified games. It is completely un-nessesary, and basically just a gimmick but that's not unlike almost every peripheral I can think of. I never thought it should have been carried over to the Xbox One and looking back, making it a pack in for the original Xbox One unit was a huge mistake for Microsoft. That said, I'd really enjoy an afternoon of Kinect games every now and again. Or Wii games for that matter. *sigh* Even with not working, and no kids (grandkids) I still struggle to play all the games I want.

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