maxdrive Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I have a dumb question but is Kung fu considered a first party game or a third party game on the NES its an orginal black box game but it also came out on other systems. With it being a port of an arcade title I wasn't sure on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I think Activision made it, so third party? But that may just be on atari. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) The nes version says copyright nintendo. The original arcade game is copyright irem. Edited November 16, 2018 by mr_me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 (edited) Actually the NES one says both. © IREM CORP.1984 © 1985 NINTENDO Nintendo takes credit for it as a first party release, but they only published it basically, or bought the rights outright to sell it, either way, Irem is credited for it on the title screen. I own the game, always have. The manual I still have with it says IREM inside it as well and Nintendo, same copyright and dates by their side. The copy of the manual up on digital press archives (PDF) shows it, but the old text file copy I made in 1996 I didn't copy that into it. Edited November 16, 2018 by Tanooki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd30 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Actually the NES one says both. © IREM CORP.1984 © 1985 NINTENDO Nintendo takes credit for it as a first party release, but they only published it basically, or bought the rights outright to sell it, either way, Irem is credited for it on the title screen. I own the game, always have. The manual I still have with it says IREM inside it as well and Nintendo, same copyright and dates by their side. The copy of the manual up on digital press archives (PDF) shows it, but the old text file copy I made in 1996 I didn't copy that into it. Much like how Snake Rattle n Roll was developed by RARE and published by Nintendo. I think of it as a RARE game, not a Nintendo game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Much like how Snake Rattle n Roll was developed by RARE and published by Nintendo. I think of it as a RARE game, not a Nintendo game. Roger Rabbit is like that too, credit to LJN but Rare made that turd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonGrafx-16 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 A similar thing with Rad Racer... developed by Square and released by Nintendo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepthaw Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Wasnt a later Mega Man released by Nintendo in the US? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derFunkenstein Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Wasnt a later Mega Man released by Nintendo in the US? Yeah, Mega Man 6. The box art shows no Capcom logo, but the game itself does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd30 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Roger Rabbit is like that too, credit to LJN but Rare made that turd. I can't say that I'm too fond of Snake Rattle n Roll despite being a huge fan of Marble Madness on the NES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Stamos Mullet Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I have a dumb question but is Kung fu considered a first party game or a third party game on the NES its an orginal black box game but it also came out on other systems. With it being a port of an arcade title I wasn't sure on it.i was always under the impression that any port of an arcade game is third party, unless it is released on a console developed by the same company who made the arcade version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Roger Rabbit is like that too, credit to LJN but Rare made that turd.No, nintendo has copyright on the kung fu game, nintendo might have developped the nes game and licensed the arcade game from Irem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbd30 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 No, nintendo has copyright on the kung fu game, nintendo might have developped the nes game and licensed the arcade game from Irem. You're right. Nintendo actually developed the NES game themselves. Irem developed the arcade game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Did they? I know random stuff online says as much, so perhaps 10 Yard FIght which is Irem too was also done by Nintendo maybe as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 (edited) The famicom version of 10-yard fight doesn't have a nintendo copyright. So why was it added to the nes version. Maybe nintendo bought the nes game from irem after the famicom version came out. Nintendo could have contracted irem to develop the famicom/nes version of kung fu. Edited November 17, 2018 by mr_me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derFunkenstein Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 The famicom version of 10-yard fight doesn't have a nintendo copyright. So why was it added to the nes version. Maybe nintendo bought the nes game from irem after the famicom version came out. Nintendo could have contracted irem to develop the famicom/nes version of kung fu. Could just be like a bunch of other games, where the original publisher didn't intend to bring it to America so Nintendo did it themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonGrafx-16 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Nintendo World Cup also wasn't developed by Nintendo but by Technos. It's original title was: Nekketsu High School Dodgeball Club: Soccer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 (edited) Unlike kung fu, nintendo world cup doesn't say copyright nintendo. It says copyright Technos licensed to Nintendo. Almost all third party nes games were licensed and manufactured by nintendo. Edited November 17, 2018 by mr_me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonGrafx-16 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Unlike kung fu, nintendo world cup doesn't say copyright nintendo. It says copyright Technos licensed to Nintendo. Almost all third party nes games were licensed and manufactured by nintendo. It's called "Nintendo World Cup" It may say Technos on the title screen but it doesn't say it anywhere on the cartridge. Also there's a difference between "Licensed to Nintendo" and "Licensed by Nintendo" (third party games). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 If ownsership of the software stays with the developer than it's a third party game, licensed to/by nintendo from the owner. If nintendo owns the software, even if it's programmed by a third party developer, than I would call it a first party game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F34R Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 This is one of the boards I still want to get. Still waiting for the right price though lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxdrive Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share Posted November 17, 2018 It's funny if this and 10 yard fight are thirds party. I always felt the black box games were first party. Because the Atari game uses the arcade name King Fu master. Where NES uses just Kung Fu. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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