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#1 fabry891 OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jan 5, 2019 7:46 AM

Hi everyone,

I'have VIC20 that I bought in 80's.

During this days I tried to turn on it, after 20 years well-deserved rest.

If I try to lauch a game, I don't hear any sound, except like "pc speacker".

Reading the manual, I found POKE comand, so If I try to digit POKE 36878,15 (volume max) and than POKE 36874,222 or 36875,222 or 36876,222 I don't hear any sound (with the tv audio volume set to max), but with 36877,222 I hear a noise like "pc speacker"

Also, only once, the VIC20 connected to TV via RF modulator, the screen became grey color e it began to flicker, so I tried to connect the VIC via scart cable e TV said "no signal". Now this trouble never appereance again.

I would to replace the MOS 6561-101, but I want to learn your opinion first or any suggestion is much appreciated.

Thanks

 



#2 SpiceWare OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Jan 5, 2019 12:51 PM

Probably should post this to the Denial forums, they're all about the VIC 20.  The Hardware and Tech subform would probably get you the best help.



#3 oracle_jedi OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Jan 8, 2019 5:52 PM

Looks like you're not getting any bites in the Denial forum, so let me see if I can help.

 

How are you connecting the VIC20 to the monitor?  The cable is the most likely cause of audio failure.  Check the cable for continuity on audio, video and ground.

 

If you are using an RF modulator that's our second most likely culprit.

 

Do you have a composite video cable?  The VIC20 can use the same cable as the Atari 800 and North American TI99/4A to connect it to a composite monitor.  If you have a composite monitor with audio this will be much simpler.

 

If you look at the 5-pin monitor jack on the back of the VIC20, pin 3 is the audio line, and pin 2 is ground.  This is line level audio so taking a line from pin 3 and passing it to any line-in, with ground to the shield should give you audio.

 

Below is an NTSC VIC20 motherboard, looking at the monitor jack from the solder side of the PCB.  Pin 3 is the one furthest on the right

 

Attached File  video monitor jack solder side.jpg   667.19KB   0 downloads

 

If you trace Pin 3 back you can see it goes to a yellow capacitor on the component side.  You can see it here to the left of the VIC chip more or less in line with the cassette port.  On my board is looks to be labelled C16:

 

Attached File  video monitor jack component side.jpg   1.16MB   0 downloads

 

If you are still not getting audio with a composite cable, check that capacitor for swelling or leakage.  Below it is a black transistor, which takes it feed from a resistor that traces back to Pin 19 of the VIC chip.  That is where the audio is generated.

 

Trace along this route looking for damaged traces, dry solder joints or blown components.  If you dont find anything and your VIC is socketed, you could try to lift it out and re-seat it.

 

Later CR VIC's have a simpler component layout but the pin numbering on the AV jack and the VIC chip is the same.

 

HTH.


Edited by oracle_jedi, Tue Jan 8, 2019 5:59 PM.






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