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Pokey Chip Atari 7800 PAL

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#1 cessnaace OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Mar 5, 2019 3:20 AM

I've been dying to buy POKEY games for the 7800, but it's getting to be expensive and troublesome. Copies of Ballblazer for the 7800 are getting harder to find and this was to be expected. On eBay things are quite limited. Boxed copies can be had for about $30 to $50 dollars, but I'm not buying a mint or sealed boxed copy just to get the cartridge. Loose copies, well I'm only finding the ones with the red end labels, and they tend to go for $50 to $80. I sometimes see loose PAL cartridges for around $25, but I don't even know if they are compatible.

 

POKEY chips can be found in a 5200 console, but then I'd have to buy one, pay to have it shipped to me, destroy the console to get at the POKEY chip, remove the POKEY chip (which I don't even know how to do), and then ship it to Atari Age. 

 

POKEY chips can be found in some Atari Arcade games, but no way am I going that route either!

 

The cheapest option that I can find is to buy just a board with a POKEY chip on it. Cost $30.

 

https://www.ebay.com...J8AAOSwjKtccao9

 

The one POKEY version that I'd really like to own is Bentley Bear's Crystal Quest. Cost? $52.25. So if I could go with the board that I found on eBay, which includes free shipping, my cost would be $82.25 not counting the shipping charge from Atari Age, and assuming that I can have this board shipped directly to Atari Age. And that's the CHEAPEST option!

 

If these boards like the one that I've linked to are common, and I have no idea if they are, perhaps Atari Age could buy them in bulk. The seller seems to be offering that option (for $25). If Atari Age passed that expense along I'd be willing to do it. Actually, I'd also be willing to buy the board, have it shipped directly to Atari Age, and have them use that. But I am disabled now so my options are limited.



#2 H454 OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Mar 5, 2019 3:35 AM

Have you tried any local classic games stores?

I've seen loose copys for $5 -20 at some of my local places - when they have them.

 

Also, try searching by the part #

I got this on ebay for $20.

https://www.ebay.com...&frcectupt=true

 

Best may have them for $20 + shipping.

http://www.best-elec...om/custom-i.htm



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Posted Tue Mar 5, 2019 6:47 AM

I agree things are getting expensive but by sorting eBay sold items, looks like there are a ton of recent sales of Ballblazer for under $30 inclusive of shipping. Set up a "saved search" on eBay for "Ballblazer Atari 7800" so you will get a notification (by email or mobile, your choice) when a new Ballblazer listing pops up and then you will be able to pounce. Best of luck!

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Posted Tue Mar 5, 2019 7:16 AM

The XM expansion module will be available in the AA Store sometime, so can just wait for that instead of trying to scrounge up a bunch of Ballblazer carts that'll meet or exceed the XM's price before long. A one time investment ($149 IIRC) and then you can purchase the less expensive flavors of games that don't require their own Pokey, but uses the Pokey and/or the Yamaha sound chip inside the XM instead.

http://atariage.com/...ing-this-month/



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Posted Tue Mar 5, 2019 9:23 AM

Keep in mind that all of the Atari 8-bit computers feature a Pokey in them also...just saying...

 

But the 2 or 3 I have on hand were gotten from other BB carts I found in the wild with crummy labels or 2 of them are from junker 5200 systems that I bought the entire system for like $10 each from the retro store near me. They don't sell much Atari anyway and so they aren't too keen on repairing systems they take in that are dead.



#6 Fragmare OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Mar 5, 2019 1:40 PM

XM really sounds like the way... One single POKEY chip for all games to use



#7 nick3092 OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Mar 5, 2019 1:55 PM

I believe the XM will also have a Yamaha sound chip in addition to POKEY for additional sound options on home brews.

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Posted Tue Mar 5, 2019 3:18 PM

JM2C...I so like the pokey stuff. I have Bentley Bear with Pokey.

 

But good games are still good games with just TIA sound. My TIA Beefdrop sounds just like Burgertime to me, maybe one note off.

 

 

 

 

Point is...STOP RIPPING APART ALL THOSE BALLBLAZERS YOU SAVAGE DOGS!!!! :lol:



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Posted Tue Mar 5, 2019 8:02 PM

I have a couple of spare Ballblazers carts and bought a POKEY from Best Electronics for the eventuality of some sort of multi-rom cart that would require it (e.g. Mateo's cart);

 

http://www.best-elec...om/custom-i.htm; You can buy it for $20.  That's what I paid two years ago.



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Posted Tue Mar 5, 2019 9:58 PM

Buy xm save planet.

#11 cessnaace OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Mar 6, 2019 12:53 AM

I just placed placed an order for this POKEY chip https://www.ebay.com...&frcectupt=true

 

I then placed an order for Bentley Bear's Crystal Quest here at Atari Age. I have received confirmation emails from both jasperman (the dealer for the POKEY chip), and Atari Age. After I became an annual subscriber I thought that I would be sent an email with a 5% discount code number, but I haven't as yet. So, I left that field blank when ordering Bentley Bear's Crystal Quest



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Posted Wed Mar 6, 2019 1:06 AM

I just placed placed an order for this POKEY chip https://www.ebay.com...&frcectupt=true

 

I then placed an order for Bentley Bear's Crystal Quest here at Atari Age. I have received confirmation emails from both jasperman (the dealer for the POKEY chip), and Atari Age. After I became an annual subscriber I thought that I would be sent an email with a 5% discount code number, but I haven't as yet. So, I left that field blank when ordering Bentley Bear's Crystal Quest

 

 

Check out that sellers other items. Aside from the PCB only ballblazers he's selling for the POKEY chips,  He's also selling NIB Ballblazers and 6 pack boxes of them.  I'm guessing  he must have cracked and old case of them (72 count) and he's making bank on them every which way and loose, literally :P



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Posted Wed Mar 6, 2019 1:30 AM

I just placed placed an order for this POKEY chip https://www.ebay.com...&frcectupt=true
 
I then placed an order for Bentley Bear's Crystal Quest here at Atari Age. I have received confirmation emails from both jasperman (the dealer for the POKEY chip), and Atari Age. After I became an annual subscriber I thought that I would be sent an email with a 5% discount code number, but I haven't as yet. So, I left that field blank when ordering Bentley Bear's Crystal Quest


Your subscriber discount automatically shows up in the Store when you're logged in.

#14 cessnaace OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Mar 6, 2019 3:13 AM

Your subscriber discount automatically shows up in the Store when you're logged in.

Didn't know that. Thanks for the info. :)



#15 cessnaace OFFLINE  

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Posted Wed Mar 6, 2019 3:15 AM

 

 

Check out that sellers other items. Aside from the PCB only ballblazers he's selling for the POKEY chips,  He's also selling NIB Ballblazers and 6 pack boxes of them.  I'm guessing  he must have cracked and old case of them (72 count) and he's making bank on them every which way and loose, literally :P

Good to know. I've started following this seller and saved the POKEY chip as a saved search. :)



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Posted Wed Mar 6, 2019 9:59 AM

What I'm really curious about is...how about currently existing homebrews that already have POKEY...once the XM is out, which ones can theoretically have the POKEY taken out and just use the XM's onboard POKEY? That could be one way to enhance the circulation before we get a workable ersatz?



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Posted Wed Mar 6, 2019 12:37 PM

There are two things that would have to happen:

 

- Code would have to be added to 'enable' the Pokey, I don't believe it's enabled by default.

- The address of the Pokey would have to change from $4000 (if that's where it is) to $450.

 

I plan on changing all of my games that use Pokey to the above scenario.

I also had made a hack of Plutos and Sirius to take advantage of the XM's memory (so we don't need the memory on cart any more)...  But I can't find it.  I had it working too...



#18 Shawn OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:03 AM

There are two things that would have to happen:

 

- Code would have to be added to 'enable' the Pokey, I don't believe it's enabled by default.

- The address of the Pokey would have to change from $4000 (if that's where it is) to $450.

 

I plan on changing all of my games that use Pokey to the above scenario.

I also had made a hack of Plutos and Sirius to take advantage of the XM's memory (so we don't need the memory on cart any more)...  But I can't find it.  I had it working too...

 

Well giddy up and find those Plutos & Sirius bin's then :P



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Posted Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:19 AM

Buy xm save planet.


Hasnt the xm been coming out soon for 5 years?

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Posted Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:24 PM

Hasnt the xm been coming out soon for 5 years?

Try almost 10.





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