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One on One (Atari 2600 ASM) 1 or 2 players


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#51 Brian O OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Mar 28, 2019 3:57 PM

You can add sombreros to the players and call it Juan on Juan.

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Posted Thu Mar 28, 2019 4:01 PM

You can add sombreros to the players and call it Juan on Juan.

 

very funny. I'll let someone else hack that 



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Posted Thu Mar 28, 2019 5:23 PM

One more thing. Is it possible to be able to set the score? Playing to 97 take a long time!



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Posted Thu Mar 28, 2019 7:40 PM

One more thing. Is it possible to be able to set the score? Playing to 97 take a long time!

Dude,  just played to 97 -- 9 minutes .     Attention span !:)



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Posted Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:20 PM

Dude,  just played to 97 -- 9 minutes .     Attention span ! :)

 

I don't have as much time as I used to for video games :(



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Posted Fri Mar 29, 2019 6:28 AM

 

I don't have as much time as I used to for video games :(

 

Adding an additional game option would require a lot of changes to code.  There is one thing I could do .....

 

Currently I have TV type toggling between white and orange color scheme. I am not that crazy about teh orange but thought that some folks might like an orange ball ( although ABA used red white and blue ball I believe) . I could change TV type to toggle between long game or short game.  What would be the perfect score?  21 is too short , since baskets count for 2 and 3 pts.



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Posted Fri Mar 29, 2019 7:54 AM

OK, I changed the default game to first to 21.   The foul limit is 2 for this option .  TV type to BW is first to 97 with foul limit = 5.

 

found a bug in 3 point detection ---   hadn't caught it in many plays. fixed now 

 

Think I finally might have solved the 3 point issue....fingers crossed . The curved area of line difficult

 

gotta take a break for a few days...........


Edited by easmith, Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:21 PM.


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Posted Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:24 AM

Regarding the trademark thing, I'd personally not sweat it. "One on one" being a game that predates - and is replicated by - the video game, weakens the mark substantially.

Further, afaik EA hasn't used the mark in trade for decades. Three years is the usual measure for abandonment.

None of this will prevent lawyers from sending scary letters, but guarding a mark they don't use and would likely lose in court seems a big waste of their time.

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Posted Fri Mar 29, 2019 8:55 AM

OK, I changed the default game to first to 21.   The foul limit is 2 for this option .  TV type to BW is first to 97 with foul limit = 5.

 

Thanks for updating the scoring! Love it.



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Posted Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:37 PM

Regarding the trademark thing, I'd personally not sweat it. "One on one" being a game that predates - and is replicated by - the video game, weakens the mark substantially.

Further, afaik EA hasn't used the mark in trade for decades. Three years is the usual measure for abandonment.

None of this will prevent lawyers from sending scary letters, but guarding a mark they don't use and would likely lose in court seems a big waste of their time.

Screw it .. For now it will be One on One : Dr. J vs Bird.  

And my mock cart image will be 

 

 

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all in!

 

Name can be changed later if needed.


Edited by easmith, Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:45 PM.


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Posted Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:56 PM

Screw it .. For now it will be One on One : Dr. J vs Bird.  
And my mock cart image will be 
 
 
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all in!
 
Name can be changed later if needed.


Cart please. :)

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Posted Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:52 PM

Found a  bug in 3 point scoring .  Hadn't caught it for all this time. updated version 32919 should be fixed.  Gonna sign off for a few days , starting to go a bit nuts

 

latest:

 

http://atariage.com/...yers/?p=4247316


Edited by easmith, Sat Mar 30, 2019 9:34 AM.


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Posted Sat Mar 30, 2019 7:20 PM

I am sure people are getting sick of my 7 updates per day ( think I set myself up for quotes here), but can't stop..... had a breakthrough when I slept on it.

 

I am "certain" that that the scoring is now airtight .    The issue was with the curved area of the 3 point line:

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 The court is divided into 15 rectangular regions, 9  of which are beyond the 3 point line, and 2 have the arched part of the 3 point line running right through them diagonally.

For the  9 regions completely outside the 3 point line , deciding score is easy. For the other 2 much more difficult. Need to have the default score 2 pts if inside the line , but have the score 3 pts ( and make prob. lower) beyond the line  ---either entering the region from 3 point range outside the line or crossing over from inside 3 point range.  Beyond the line in this region also has to register as backcourt.

 

The routine that determines all this is based on the ball shadow first registering collision with playfield lines and then ,when the collision is no longer registered, recording the direction of player motion, to determine if the player had moved outside or inside the line.   What was happening was that the arched part of the top of the key is also in the corner of these regions and so passing over this part  while moving down was activating the 3 point score.     This rarely happened in just the right way but I finally noticed it.

 

Gonna let this one breath for a few days . If anyone catches any bugs please let me know . 

 287747929-main.jpg


Edited by easmith, Sat Apr 6, 2019 10:24 AM.


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Posted Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:04 AM

Anything that gets him off of Fortnite has got to be pretty good.

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Posted Mon Apr 1, 2019 6:52 PM

Anything that gets him off of Fortnite has got to be pretty good.


Now that’s a proper setup. TV cart and Game Center. :)

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Posted Tue Apr 2, 2019 5:19 PM

We'll be featuring One on One LIVE on tomorrow's (Wednesday) ZeroPage Homebrew stream on Twitch at 11AM PT | 2PM ET | 7PM GMT! Hope everyone can watch!

Twitch Stream: http://twitch.tv/zeropagehomebrew/

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- Tower of Rubble (2019 WIP Update) by Dion Olsthoorn aka Dionoid
- Penult (2019 WIP) by Karl Garrison aka Karl G
- One on One (2019 WIP) by Edward Smith aka easmith
- A Roach In Space (2019 WIP) by John Von Neumann aka Vhzc

 

[EDIT] UPDATED WITH ARCHIVED SHOW:

 


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Posted Fri Apr 5, 2019 2:21 PM

I have made the following adjustments:

 

1. added sound for steals.

2. dropped the 99 point option . Now just first to 21+  wins .

 

Instead of TV type toggling short game vs long game, it now adjusts AI player level.

Color = faster AI .  AI is better defender and rebounder.   Very hard to beat AI off the dribble for a dunk . 

BW = easier AI .    AI is slower defender and rebounder.    Easier ( but not easy) to beat AI off the dribble for a dunk.


Edited by easmith, Tue Apr 9, 2019 7:11 AM.


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Posted Tue Apr 9, 2019 7:13 AM

Made a few final tweaks.  This will most likely be the final revision .

Good Deal Games will likely produce some carts under the title "1 vs 1 Basketball" later this Spring or summer.!  

 

 

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Posted Wed Apr 10, 2019 12:34 AM

Instead of TV type toggling short game vs long game, it now adjusts AI player level.

Color = faster AI .  AI is better defender and rebounder.   Very hard to beat AI off the dribble for a dunk . 

BW = easier AI .    AI is slower defender and rebounder.    Easier ( but not easy) to beat AI off the dribble for a dunk.

 

I don't have my console handy to test, but does the TV type work properly for the 7800 as well (momentary button instead of a switch)?

This is also something to consider for compatibility with the portable.

 

Maybe consider the default (Color) being the easier option.  Just a thought, but that was an issue with some of the commercial games (E.T. - the default being the hardest difficulty added to the frustration of some players while those of us who read the manual knew to practice on game 3, default for Berserk not having Evil Otto - you had to read the manual to know which game selections had him, Moon Patrol not having music on the default skill switch - had to read the manual to know to select difficultly A for music).  I'm just suggesting maybe (maybe) it would be better for the harder difficulty to be the more non-standard setting of B/W.



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Posted Wed Apr 10, 2019 5:01 AM

 

I don't have my console handy to test, but does the TV type work properly for the 7800 as well (momentary button instead of a switch)?

This is also something to consider for compatibility with the portable.

 

Maybe consider the default (Color) being the easier option.  Just a thought, but that was an issue with some of the commercial games (E.T. - the default being the hardest difficulty added to the frustration of some players while those of us who read the manual knew to practice on game 3, default for Berserk not having Evil Otto - you had to read the manual to know which game selections had him, Moon Patrol not having music on the default skill switch - had to read the manual to know to select difficultly A for music).  I'm just suggesting maybe (maybe) it would be better for the harder difficulty to be the more non-standard setting of B/W.

 

ok here it is for those who prefer it

 

. But for me , on the easier version, I found a few move combinations   where I could drive and dunk pretty much every time, and just knowing that I could do that at will makes it not fun , So I prefer the harder option where I have not discovered any such vulnerability. I can still dunk once or twice per 21 point game.


Edited by easmith, Thu May 23, 2019 7:11 AM.


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Posted Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:17 PM

ok here it is for those who prefer it

 

Thank you.  I greatly appreciate your willingness to receive feedback and accommodate requests.  It's really awesome of you.

I look forward to trying out both versions soon.



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Posted Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:19 PM

 

Thank you.  I greatly appreciate your willingness to receive feedback and accommodate requests.  It's really awesome of you.

I look forward to trying out both versions soon.

No problem. My games are  not impressive technical achievements . They do not have music , nor do they employ many advanced techniques.  I hope the gameplay makes up for these shortcomings.   So my hope is that they are actually PLAYED .   So if someone is willing to actually play the game I want to accommodate their wishes as much as possible :)



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Posted Tue May 21, 2019 7:33 AM

Good Deal Games is releasing Cart next month !    Stay tuned.

 

Attached is final ROM .  Adjusted the AI defense a little , but otherwise no major changes.

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Posted Tue May 21, 2019 11:20 PM

Great looking artwork on the cart!! Congrats on the pending release.

 

Good Deal Games is releasing Cart next month !    Stay tuned.

 

Attached is final ROM .  Adjusted the AI defense a little , but otherwise no major changes.

 






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