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#1 Steve Mynott OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:26 AM

While playing around with emulation I  used an 800XL ROM but not the inbuilt BASIC ROM.

 

Much to my surprise I saw a colourful "Atari" (better than MEMO PAD!).  Is this the same logo displayed by the 1200XL? Is there anyway of displaying this on a real Atari? I suppose a U1MB image could be used without BASIC?

 

(Correction to above I may have selected a 1200 ROM by mistake?)


Edited by Steve Mynott, Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:38 AM.


#2 Stephen OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:31 AM

Sounds like you just selected a 1200XL ROM somehow.  There's several ways to get that ROM in any XL based machine (EPROM, multiple OS replacement upgrades, etc.) There should also be numerous versions of standalone files that also display the logo with the common "Atari rainbow".



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Posted Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:31 AM

Not sure what ROM you were using, but there exists an OS ROM for XL/XE computers named "PUD OS" originally by ARGS (regional Abbuc group that does not exist anymore). PUD = Power-Up Display or better Atari Fuji of a 1200XL OS. Think this PUD OS therefore lacks the Selftest...



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Posted Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:43 AM

Here is the XEX of the 1200XL ATARI flash screen.

Attached File  1200XL Atari Splash.xex   540bytes   52 downloads



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Posted Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:49 PM

There is an ARGS 800 compatible OS on the 32-in-1 I've never tried...I wonder if it has the splash screen? I'll have to check it out. Of course the 1200XL's are also on it, so I use them for "museum" display mode when I have company that might be interested.

 

I was always curious what the 'ARGS' stood for, but just never bothered to try the OS, because I didn't really know and it said 800 compatible, so since I have real 800 OS's on it too, just never had an interest before now in using it.


Edited by Gunstar, Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:51 PM.


#6 Mclaneinc ONLINE  

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Posted Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:58 PM

I like the Altirra OS splash screen....Very Amiga....Really nice too...Would have been seriously funky back in the day...

 

ARGS OS has a semi splash screen...If you hold SELECT and RESET you get the Rom disk screen


Edited by Mclaneinc, Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:08 PM.


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Posted Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:06 PM

The orignal 1200XL OS's work just fine on later XL/XE's, but you lose access to internal BASIC, so you have to use a cartridge BASIC just like a stock 1200XL. :)

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Posted Sat Mar 16, 2019 2:14 PM

I was always curious what the 'ARGS' stood for,

I read somewhere "ABBUC Regional Group Stuttgart". Not sure all the features, but my brief try of the OS in my 32-in-1 showed support for the Ralf David ROM-Disk with Select+Reset.

http://atariage.com/...k-os/?p=2958771

Further reading of that thread shows it has highspeed SIO support, and a single line ml monitor as well.

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Posted Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:12 PM

I made a real bonehead mistake years ago. One of the 1200XL I picked up had that splash screen with the names of 7 or 8 developers. I figure it was a perk given out to members of the development team. I replaced the OS with a switchable 800xl & Omnimon set. I lost the original ROMs which I rate as one of the stupidest things I have done in the last 40 years.



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Posted Sat Mar 16, 2019 8:45 PM

If anyone sees an Atari XL/XE that displays a full screen rainbow pattern when powered on, PLEASE dump the EPROM chip that is in your BASIC socket.

 

I will not only send you a correct Atari BASIC EPROM chip that plugs right in (Motorola 68764/68766), but I will pay shipping both ways for your EPROM if you would be kind enough to send it to me.

 

PM me if anyone finds one of these. They will mainly come from cable companies, hotels, casinos.

 

That chip means the computer was made to run SpectraView-1 (more expensive than Spec-2 [which we have]).

We  don't have a dump of a Spec-1 cart, but the BASIC replacement chip is a good start.



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Posted Sun Mar 17, 2019 2:05 AM

The orignal 1200XL OS's work just fine on later XL/XE's, but you lose access to internal BASIC, so you have to use a cartridge BASIC just like a stock 1200XL. :)


You completely lose access to PBI devices as well.

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Posted Mon Apr 8, 2019 9:11 PM

That chip means the computer was made to run SpectraView-1 (more expensive than Spec-2 [which we have]).
We  don't have a dump of a Spec-1 cart, but the BASIC replacement chip is a good start.


I noticed there's a SpectaView 2 cart on ebay in Canada: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/283445493880

But same seller also has this one, an Info/soft 7000 graphic generator? Have you heard of that?
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/283445463516

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Posted Mon Apr 8, 2019 9:51 PM

I noticed there's a SpectaView 2 cart on ebay in Canada: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/283445493880

But same seller also has this one, an Info/soft 7000 graphic generator? Have you heard of that?
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/283445463516

Yes, I know about Infosoft.

 

BITD, I used to work for D.E.L. Compu-Cable Systems. The name changed to Display Systems International. I *HAD* all the files for the ROMs. But, over time... Hard drive crashes and worn out floppies later... I only have the ROMs for SpectraView-II.

 

Still looking for the Spec-1 stuff. The EPROM that replaces BASIC and the other 2 that go into the OSS style cart. Same as orange BXLcart.



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Posted Mon Apr 8, 2019 10:19 PM

Yes, I know about Infosoft.

 

BITD, I used to work for D.E.L. Compu-Cable Systems. The name changed to Display Systems International. I *HAD* all the files for the ROMs. But, over time... Hard drive crashes and worn out floppies later... I only have the ROMs for SpectraView-II.

 

It's neat that DSI, based out of Saskatoon is just a few hours drive from me in Regina. Did you ever visit them there? I think you need your own ANTIC podcast inerview with all of your historical connections. :)

 

Daja vu thinking about these products... I vaguely recall playing with some sort of display screen cartridge my dad had borrowed for a while when I was a kid. It was highly customizable for the background/foreground colours, but I remember it could vertically scroll graphics-1 style text in multiple areas... I could save the screen and the entered text to disk, or to cassette (C:) Does this sound like either of those products?



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Posted Tue Apr 9, 2019 8:35 AM

But same seller also has this one, an Info/soft 7000 graphic generator? Have you heard of that?
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/283445463516

 

Yes, I've heard of it. :-) That label is a lot better than mine.



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Posted Tue Apr 9, 2019 8:47 AM

 

It's neat that DSI, based out of Saskatoon is just a few hours drive from me in Regina. Did you ever visit them there? I think you need your own ANTIC podcast inerview with all of your historical connections. :)

 

Daja vu thinking about these products... I vaguely recall playing with some sort of display screen cartridge my dad had borrowed for a while when I was a kid. It was highly customizable for the background/foreground colours, but I remember it could vertically scroll graphics-1 style text in multiple areas... I could save the screen and the entered text to disk, or to cassette (C:) Does this sound like either of those products?

 

The main office was in Saskatoon. I was in Pennsylvania. Not really much to say in an interview. I just fixed some XL's and XE's and disk drives.

 

I remember horizontal scrollers, but not vertical.






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