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#1 Shift838 OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:51 PM

I'm going to be making some mouse adapters that will take a standard 9 pin bus mouse (mini din) and convert it to a 9 pin dsub for the Geneve Mouse.

 

It will also allow you to select Right or Left handed with a dipswitch.

 

Attached is a PCB preview.

 

Who's interested ?

 

 

 

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Posted Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:37 PM

I have the original Mouse for Geneve, but it is interesting anyway :) it's neat!



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Posted Mon Mar 18, 2019 6:38 PM

I'm interested.  I just bought a package of three bus mice off of ebay.  The one I had the pinouts for wee for the Logitech Model No. PC-93-9MD.  Would definitely prefer a connector versus rewiring something up.

 

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Posted Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:43 PM

Note that the 9-pin bus mice with the "D" connector should work without modification, but I also like the idea of making the adapter to modify the MiniDIN type to the "D" type, so count me in for 3-4 of these.



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Posted Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:32 AM

yeah a few for me too



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Posted Tue Mar 19, 2019 5:48 AM

Yes I have an original mouse for one of my Genny's but I will need two more to go with the others. So I'll need two.



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Posted Tue Mar 19, 2019 7:06 AM

Yessssssss  :)



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Posted Tue Mar 19, 2019 10:35 AM

Yes, I´m in..



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Posted Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:30 PM

I've ordered parts to work on the development board.  



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Posted Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:54 PM

i may replace the DB9 pcb connector with a header for a DB9 ribbon cable.  I believe this would make the connector more stable on the Geneve.

 

thoughts?


Edited by Shift838, Sun Mar 24, 2019 4:38 PM.


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Posted Sun Mar 24, 2019 5:02 PM

good idea!  :thumbsup:



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Posted Sun Mar 24, 2019 6:44 PM

As long as I do not have to build a cable to connect things together...……..



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Posted Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:26 PM

i can get 1ft db9 m-f cables .. i use them for the joystick adapters to move them off the side

 

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Posted Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:12 AM

I used to buy db9 connectors to crimp on ribbon cable, to make extensions, not hard for sure if the connectors are still available.



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Posted Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:48 AM

My plan is for no one to have to make cables.  The unit will come with what is required to connect a bus mouse (9 pin mini din) to the Geneve.



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Posted Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:10 PM

I'm not sure there is merit to doing this but what if you added a second DB9 connector to break out the joystick ports and the mouse port.  If you wanted plug the adapter directly into the Geneve, that might give enough stability to make it worthwhile as another option.



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Posted Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:57 AM

I'm not sure there is merit to doing this but what if you added a second DB9 connector to break out the joystick ports and the mouse port.  If you wanted plug the adapter directly into the Geneve, that might give enough stability to make it worthwhile as another option.

 

i actually was thinking of this as well, i would have to get the measurements dead on of course so the connectors align up.  I even thought we could make breakout the 2 joysticks into Atari connections, but I don't there there would be enough space to do that.



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Posted Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:13 AM

Me personally, and my setup, I would probably prefer just to see foot long cables coming off the Geneve to an adapter board versus securing the board to the end of the Geneve.  I think this will more likely keep the Geneve stable in the PEBox as I can secure the adapter board to the side of the PEBox facing out front.

 

Assuming the board is not secured to the Geneve, please plan on having a box either included or recommended that would secure things.  I hate having any boards with open circuits where something could come in contact with them such as cats, etc.

 

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Posted Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:34 AM

Me personally, and my setup, I would probably prefer just to see foot long cables coming off the Geneve to an adapter board versus securing the board to the end of the Geneve.  I think this will more likely keep the Geneve stable in the PEBox as I can secure the adapter board to the side of the PEBox facing out front.

Definitely a good point if your Geneve is not in a case or not in a PEB with the cover installed - Myarc cards tend to rock in the connector.   The cable solution also may work better for those who have placed a PEB cage into a PC tower. 



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Posted Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:44 AM

Me personally, and my setup, I would probably prefer just to see foot long cables coming off the Geneve to an adapter board versus securing the board to the end of the Geneve.  I think this will more likely keep the Geneve stable in the PEBox as I can secure the adapter board to the side of the PEBox facing out front.

 

Assuming the board is not secured to the Geneve, please plan on having a box either included or recommended that would secure things.  I hate having any boards with open circuits where something could come in contact with them such as cats, etc.

 

Beery

 

Very good points Barry!  I think the best solution is to have it with a cable coming from the geneve to the board.  I plan on designing the board to fit in a standard hammond project box (model to be determined).



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Posted Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:44 PM

Status?



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Posted Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:52 PM

Been busy at work but have the concept down on a hand wired board. Need to find a few more mouse programs for the genevve to test.

Im hoping to have a test order of boards sent within the next few days.

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Posted Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:47 AM

CYA has a simple mouse test that lets you depress all three buttons and move things around.  I might still have the standalone code/program modules if that will help you with some quick tests.  (I wrote test modules for quick checks for hardware repair at cecure - forgot about them til now)



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Posted Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:40 AM

I ran into a an issue. It seems that the bus mouse I have one of the axis is screwed up.  although it is hooked up it will not move.  my vertical axis works fine, but the horizontal is dead on the mouse.  I need to find a new mouse or work on a different solution for a more readily available mouse like PS/2 or USB.



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Posted Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:56 AM

I ran into a an issue. It seems that the bus mouse I have one of the axis is screwed up.  although it is hooked up it will not move.  my vertical axis works fine, but the horizontal is dead on the mouse.  I need to find a new mouse or work on a different solution for a more readily available mouse like PS/2 or USB.

 

or use the pinout the mice i have a bunch of :) and that you have one






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