retroillucid Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 That is one way to look at this. The other way is that someone had to come up with that so it could exist in the first place. And a certain mutual respect between members of this community regarding those efforts, something that some outsiders may not understand (or appreciate). Besides, it would not exist if Eduardo didn't created it in the first place We're a very small community, and rerspect should ALWAYS been applied, even we're not always agree with each others 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opcode Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 You mean like how Konami made those MSX games and you ported them to Colecovision without a license? Funny, that sounds like something I heard today from someone else.... what a coincidence... All of this, this "jailbreak", this thread, all those incredible coincidences... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SegaSnatcher Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) Funny, you sound just like someone I know.... what a coincidence... All of this, this "jailbreak", this thread, all those incredible coincidences... If I'm wrong, please correct me, but I never saw an Officially licensed by Konami tag on your ports. Maybe I need to research more. BTW, let me clarify that I'm glad you did those ports, you did great work. I highly enjoy playing them on the Mega Sg. Edited April 3, 2019 by SegaSnatcher 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 If I'm wrong, please correct me, but I never saw an Officially licensed by Konami tag on your ports. Maybe I need to research more. BTW, let me clarify that I'm glad you did those ports, you did great work. I highly enjoy playing them on the Mega Sg. Konami is too busy working on Pachinko I'm just kidding I'm out, I just don't want to create more drama 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SegaSnatcher Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 Konami is too busy working on Pachinko I'm just kidding I'm out, I just don't want to create more drama Its unfortunate how far Konami has fallen. They were such an amazing company back in the 80s and 90s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Its unfortunate how far Konami has fallen. They were such an amazing company back in the 80s and 90s. Yes, very sad indeed They should just count on indies to revamp their old games for modern systems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmack36 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Although maybe they are moving in the right direction: https://hypebeast.com/2019/3/konami-classics-xbox-one-playstation-4-coming-soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Although maybe they are moving in the right direction: https://hypebeast.com/2019/3/konami-classics-xbox-one-playstation-4-coming-soon Nah, they're just trying to sell those games again (cash grab!) Why not doing new/modern version of those games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SegaSnatcher Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 I would consider the mega sg for CV games if I wasnt already all in on the Phoenix The Phoenix will still have some perks like being able to use original controllers, carts and has that F/18a mode if thats important to you. I also think the shell design is really cool in a retro way. For me I can't stand original Coleco controllers, don't own any carts and desire HD resolutions so the Mega SG Coleco core is all I need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serguei2 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) And any colecovision games only support two buttons would run fine on Mega-SG. Original Colecovision, sgm1/2, omni and phoenix systems still enjoy these games. Problem solved for me. Everybody is happy. Edited April 3, 2019 by Serguei2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 And any colecovision games only support two buttons would run fine on Mega-SG. Original Colecovision, sgm1/2, omni and phoenix systems still enjoy these games. Problem solved for me. Everybody is happy. I agree I'm going to buy all those systems anyway I just like them all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPR Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 You mean like how Konami made those MSX games and you ported them to Colecovision without a license? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure your ports weren't officially licensed, so isn't that like the Pot calling the Kettle Black? Oh, look... Someone who claims they never cause drama in threads creating drama in threads. This is your one and only warning. ps. For the record I also bought the Mega Sg and think it's by far the best way to play by Sega games! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SegaSnatcher Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 Oh, look... Someone who claims they never cause drama in threads creating drama in threads. This is your one and only warning. ps. For the record I also bought the Mega Sg and think it's by far the best way to play by Sega games! Did I say something that was incorrect? If a person has an issue with licensing but doesn't practice what they preach isn't that hypocritical? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPR Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Did I say something that was incorrect? If a person has an issue with licensing but doesn't practice what they preach isn't that hypocritical? First of all, not taking sides in this argument, Eduardo has a legitimate complaint because he created the SGM and he has a right to protect the work he put into it. He speaks for himself and his product. You on the other hand, DO NOT SPEAK FOR KONAMI. You do not represent Konami. You do not have any ties to any of those games you mentioned. If Konami has an issue with those games that Opcode ported, they can contact Eduardo directly. The ONLY reason you've even bringing it up is because you thrive on making drama and you can't stand the fact that Eduardo actually has a valid argument, so you had to throw that out as some sort of a rebuttal. I gave you ONE WARNING and that was it. You need to drop your issue RIGHT NOW or it will be your last post in this thread. Is that understood? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SegaSnatcher Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) First of all, not taking sides in this argument, Eduardo has a legitimate complaint because he created the SGM and he has a right to protect the work he put into it. He speaks for himself and his product. You on the other hand, DO NOT SPEAK FOR KONAMI. You do not represent Konami. You do not have any ties to any of those games you mentioned. If Konami has an issue with those games that Opcode ported, they can contact Eduardo directly. The ONLY reason you've even bringing it up is because you thrive on making drama and you can't stand the fact that Eduardo actually has a valid argument, so you had to throw that out as some sort of a rebuttal. I gave you ONE WARNING and that was it. You need to drop your issue RIGHT NOW or it will be your last post in this thread. Is that understood? Okay, I won't reply to any more of his posts then. Can I at least still talk about the Mega Sg Coleco core? Edited April 3, 2019 by SegaSnatcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPR Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Can I at least still talk about the Mega Sg Coleco core? If you can do so without stirring up drama for other members of this community, by all means... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SegaSnatcher Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share Posted April 3, 2019 If you can do so without stirring up drama for other members of this community, by all means... Yeah not having issues with anyone else in the thread, we all agree lots of great ways to play Coleco games and Mega Sg is now another option that I never thought would have happened. Win/Win. I think the Mega Sg Coleco core will only be a positive for the Colecovision community. Should turn on even more people to the console. For some people the Mega Sg Coleco core will be their first Colecovision experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serguei2 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 For some people the Mega Sg Coleco core will be their first Colecovision experience. True. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serguei2 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) The original question is: do you enjoy colecovision games on Mega SG? Most of us: no. Because, Mega SG does not support original controllers. Edited April 3, 2019 by Serguei2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) The original question is: do you enjoy colecovision games on Mega SG? Most of us: no. Because, Mega SG does not support original controllers. There's only a handfull of games that would require keypads, steering wheel, or trackball. A lot of people would rather not use the original coleco controller anyway. The cartridge port might be a bigger deal than the controllers. There's no reason the mega sg couldn't support colecovision cartridges through an adapter. Edited April 3, 2019 by TPR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swami Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 There's only a handfull of games that would require keypads, steering wheel, or trackball. A lot of people would rather not use the original coleco controller anyway. I would agree, although there are alternate decent controllers in small numbers and will possibly be available in sizeable numbers in a year or so. But. that is not now, of course. I would say it depends on your level of fanaticism, such as, the requirement that it be able to play all games and use real carts, super action controllers, roller controllers, racing wheels, etc., and, additionally, power-pads, light guns, power gloves, for instance, in the case of Genesis and NES/SNES FPGAs/emulators - as in, not supported. For others, an equivalent of the standard controller is enough and others, just a joystick/dpad and two buttons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumbai Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) [W]hen did cartridge games ever come with a shrinkwrap license indicating that the purchaser of that cartridge's right to use it was for a limited period of time or restricted their right to freely transfer the cartridge? Ordinary retail releases do not have those limitations and it is way too late to retroactively apply a limitation now. Given how his post was written, I believe mr_me was speaking about future prospects, not past actions, w/r/t ordinary retail products. You answered your own question posed as to when, if ever, sale limitations were imposed on cartridges of any kind. Edited April 3, 2019 by mumbai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I beg ColecoVision fans to not support this. Support the Phoenix and the licensed SGM, so we can keep supporting the ColecoVision community back with new games and hardware. I say this with the utmost respect for your work and ongoing projects -- but that's not how this works. As a casual (at best) Coleco fan, the proven, readily-available product that does many things is way more compelling to me than a single-purpose device. Sorry. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opcode Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 I say this with the utmost respect for your work and ongoing projects -- but that's not how this works. As a casual (at best) Coleco fan, the proven, readily-available product that does many things is way more compelling to me than a single-purpose device. Sorry. As a casual (at best) Coleco fan, you will get a casual (at best) support and attention for your Coleco needs from a readily-available product that does many things, but that being a ColecoVision isn’t the primary focus (not even close). If that is what you are paying for, I don’t see why it shouldn’t work for you. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serguei2 Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) There's only a handfull of games that would require keypads, steering wheel, or trackball. A lot of people would rather not use the original coleco controller anyway. The cartridge port might be a bigger deal than the controllers. There's no reason the mega sg couldn't support colecovision cartridges through an adapter. I would play homebrew games on Mega SG than the original games released between 1982-1988 because you need to use keypad to start to play. Edited: good thing, this topic is cleaned up. It was a mess. Edited April 3, 2019 by Serguei2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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