Model 1 or 2?

[0078265317]

Getting a model 2 in the mail from ebay. Found a guy selling the one with the cutouts in the shielding as in the other thread. Still have a model 1 non hidef. So no need to keep 2. Probably sell the model 1. I heard power base converter for playing master games is not compatible. But no big deal cuz I have none. And there is always this anyhow.

 

https://stoneagegamer.com/powerbase-mini-fm.html

 

Any others reasons to get rid of the model 1? Does 32x or CD work? Anything else not compatible with model 2?

 

Also is the av cable the same? I have a generic av cable with no svideo. And I need an ac adapter. Model 1 is different. And mode 2 is 10v like snes. But that probably wont fit. I have a generic snes and genesis 1 adapter 850mah. I doubt it will fit. What will? I have controllers and games and if av fits all is good. Just need an ac adapter.

[derFunkenstein]

It depends on which specific model 2 you get (if it's a VA4, that's good, but the guy had two systems listed IIRC) and which specific model 1 you have. If what you already have in non-HDG is a VA7, then it's a turd that you can sell without any regrets. If it's a VA6.8, the two will sound very similar and both should also look pretty good. The reason the original Power Base Converter won't work is that it's molded to fit the original Genesis 1. There was a revision released but the one you linked has FM sound where the others don't, so that's probably your best bet anyway.

 

The AV cable is different and so is the AC adapter. So if you don't already have a model 2 AV cable you need one. The AC adapter is the same one used on the 32X with a smaller plug.

[0078265317]

He said both probably have the holes but if not he will send the one with the holes. And I have model one that does not say hidef graphics on the top. And no ext port on the back.

[+-^CrossBow^-]

He said both probably have the holes but if not he will send the one with the holes. And I have model one that does not say hidef graphics on the top. And no ext port on the back.

 

Then the next question is where the power port is located on the back of your model 1? Is it pretty close to the right edge of the bezel from the top shell, or more like an inch over to the left from the bezel?

[genesisguy]

I have two HD models they have TMSS so they aren't super old

My childhood model was VA6 with non-HD Graphics logo. I can't get it to work.

 

I've had super early HD models with non-tmss all the way up to the VA4 Model 2. My aviator is tongue in cheek but I was surprised how nice the picture is on the VA7 I briefly owned.

 

This was during the days of the early 2000s when I could pick these up for 5 bucks a pop at Goodwill.

[0078265317]

I took some pics. Dont see VA7 or any number listed anywhere.

 

https://mvvg.blogspot.com/2019/04/my-genesis.html

[derFunkenstein]

I took some pics. Dont see VA7 or any number listed anywhere.

 

https://mvvg.blogspot.com/2019/04/my-genesis.html

 

That's a VA6.8. The VA7 had the power adapter shifted to the right (from the angle of that shot, I mean. If you look at the back it's shifted to the left)

[0078265317]

So sound and video is no better than a va4 gen 2?

[derFunkenstein]

So sound and video is no better than a va4 gen 2?

It's a good Genesis to be sure. I can't say anything about "better" or "worse" but lots of folks prefer all VA6.8 and earlier model 1s.

[0078265317]

It works great. Even after taking it apart to get photos and putting it back together. Just the power button is bad. Even before taking it apart. You have to wiggle it for 2 seconds to get it to turn on.

[derFunkenstein]

Might want to spray a little contact cleaner into the switch with the lid off. That could make it good as new. I routinely use stuff like that in the pots and toggle switches on my guitars when switching between pickups gets crackly.

[0078265317]

I got the av off ebay. Now I just need the ac. Will 9V work or it must be 10v.

[0078265317]

According to this his ps1 adapter works on his genesis 2. I have one of those. Is it safe to try that?

 

https://assemblergames.com/threads/voltage-levels-used-in-sega-genesis.46750/

Edited April 6, 2019 by 0078265317

[derFunkenstein]

No idea. In the past I have used this one successfully. I currently have a RetroGameCave M2 Trio, though. https://stoneagegamer.com/genesis-2-3-ac-adapter-tomee.html

 

Beware that the cheap AV cables for Genesis 2s sold on eBay almost always have left and right audio backwards. So you might need to plug red into white and white into red.

[dj_convoy]

I have both a Model 1 and Model 2 hooked up in my A/V rack for... reasons, but I've never been refined enough to really care a huge deal about the audio differences. I can tell, certainly, if MLiG or Digital Foundry or one of the better produced shows spotlight differences, but I don't have a huge preference in actual practice.

 

 

There really is a difference, so I don't blame people for buying Mega amps and the like... but I do find it amusing that suddenly SO MANY PEOPLE (and I certainly don't mean helpful cats like derFunk; I mean Johnny come lately self styled experts on the internet) are suddenly sound experts online. "The squarewave isn't crunchy enough!" Uh huh. Suddenly everyone and their mom knows exactly what expansion audio on obscure Famicom disk games is supposed to sound like, you know?

[derFunkenstein]

Im certainly no expert, but I can tell the difference between good and bad models. Its all about the moist fart sound that accompanies the audio. If thats gone then Im good. I didnt even know what the ladder effect was (or that it existed) until I looked it up when I found it in the Mega Sg audio menu.

 

So any non-VA7 model 1 or any late model 2 is good enough for me. There are only a handful of real turds in the Genesis family. The rest all BASICALLY sound the same to me.

Edited April 6, 2019 by derFunkenstein

[OldSchoolRetroGamer]

I prefer my Model 1 mostly for the look, I have a CDX / X'eye / as well a couple Genesis compatible clones (I actually LIKE my Retrobit SuperRetroTrio but despise the Retron3) but at this point I don't see myself ever bothering with a Model 2 and DEFINITELY NEVER a model 3.

[dj_convoy]

No Model 3 ever

[derFunkenstein]

A model 3 with stereo audio mod isnt too bad, from what Ive read. I kinda want one but have no use for it.

[atarilovesyou]

It's largely nostalgia for me. Although my first system was a later model 2, that summer of 89 where I learned and drooled over the model 1 iconic Genesis was awesome. If you're a collector, it makes a difference. For pure gameplay though, I prefer my model 2. Cleaner interface, sturdier control ports...the buttons are better. It's a great lil compact unit as well and combines with the CD and 32X better IMO as well.

[0078265317]

So retrobit sells a 9v adapter but officials are 10v. So does that mean a generic 9v would work? If official is 10v then why dont they make it 10v? Why 9v?

 

https://www.google.com/search?ei=wMaqXOLtFIvCjwTAxruYDw&q=sega+genesis+3+9v&oq=sega+genesis+3+9v&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-serp.3...55226.56299..57313...0.0..2.1176.3118.3-1j0j1j1j1......0....1.........0i71.-7kvMrwZp3w#lbl=OVERVIEW&pie=plaji-i

Edited April 8, 2019 by 0078265317

[derFunkenstein]

Generic 9v will work if it has the right tip with the right polarity. Model 1 has the same connector as a PC Engine, and those adapters are interchangeable, too.

 

If you want a cheap option with something that should work perfectly, follow HD Retrovision's guide. https://www.hdretrovision.com/vote3rdparty

Edited April 8, 2019 by derFunkenstein

[0078265317]

Is that positive polarity on model 2 and 3s? My model 1 is negative?

[derFunkenstein]

Is that positive polarity on model 2 and 3s? My model 1 is negative?

 

This is the adapter that came with my VA4 model 2.

[0078265317]

The av cable arrived today. Thw tracking has not updated yet for the console but I will keep an eye out.