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#1 spinnaker15136 OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:46 PM

Still need to get to hooking up my 810.  (so many other things to do ;)  )   But I am not holding any hopes that I will get ti working as it was giving me fits years ago when I put it away.

 

 

As a replacement,  what should I look for?  I was going to go for the 1050 but is there a certain version  I should buy?   Is there a good source for these?

 

I found this place

http://www.best-elec...8-bit_.htm#SIO2

 

But they are out of stock.   There is also someone on ebay that completely  refurbishes them. That looks interesting.  I figure if I am going to spend the money, might as well spend a bit more and get a refurbished one.    He replaces all of the filter caps and any other parts as needed, does a calibration, the whole deal.

 

Are there clones out there?   I checked into 5.25 inch drives thinking I  could design my own interface but they are almost expensive as the full Atari drive.

 



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Posted Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:55 PM

810's are tanks, so long as you deoxit the card edge and pin connectors and clean and seat the chips it should be good to go again... it's the nature of the beast

Any 1050 with us doubler or happy is a good thing....

I've been using quads and 8's for an eternity, and am getting ready to put an 8 inch back online in the near future..

 

It all depends on what you are going for and want to do...



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Posted Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:54 PM

I'd definitely have faith the 810 will work. Like any mechanical device, a little cleaning and lubricating should get it going nicely again.

 

With that said, if you're still interested in buying a refurbed working 1050 afterwards, send me a PM - I have too many. :) I can install your choice of upgrade in it as well.



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Posted Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:58 PM

I've been using quads and 8's for an eternity


Once more in normal people speak?😀

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Posted Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:16 PM

Still need to get to hooking up my 810.  (so many other things to do ;)  )   But I am not holding any hopes that I will get ti working as it was giving me fits years ago when I put it away.

 

 

As a replacement,  what should I look for?  I was going to go for the 1050 but is there a certain version  I should buy?   Is there a good source for these?

 

I found this place

http://www.best-elec...8-bit_.htm#SIO2

 

But they are out of stock.   There is also someone on ebay that completely  refurbishes them. That looks interesting.  I figure if I am going to spend the money, might as well spend a bit more and get a refurbished one.    He replaces all of the filter caps and any other parts as needed, does a calibration, the whole deal.

 

Are there clones out there?   I checked into 5.25 inch drives thinking I  could design my own interface but they are almost expensive as the full Atari drive.

 

That gotta be my Ebay add

https://www.ebay.com/itm/202650901767

 

Refurbished is a big word to me. I have bought items on Ebay that they claimed they were refurbished and when I cracked them open, they had insect cacoon's inside. The 810 is a bullet proof tank. I have two and purchased as non working, cleaned the connectors and they worked great. Replace the caps on the power board and should last for another 40 years.  


Edited by Umberto, Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:23 PM.


#6 spinnaker15136 OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:11 PM

That gotta be my Ebay add

https://www.ebay.com/itm/202650901767

 

Refurbished is a big word to me. I have bought items on Ebay that they claimed they were refurbished and when I cracked them open, they had insect cacoon's inside. The 810 is a bullet proof tank. I have two and purchased as non working, cleaned the connectors and they worked great. Replace the caps on the power board and should last for another 40 years.  

 

 

Yep that is it.   Sent you a message on connectors via eBay.   Can you check please?



#7 spinnaker15136 OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:15 PM

I'd definitely have faith the 810 will work. Like any mechanical device, a little cleaning and lubricating should get it going nicely again.

 

With that said, if you're still interested in buying a refurbed working 1050 afterwards, send me a PM - I have too many. :) I can install your choice of upgrade in it as well.

 

 

Any tips on what to clean the edge connectors with?

 

Best has an alignment disk.   Is it worth purchasing?   I recall doing that years ago when I serviced  IBM PCs but I can't remember the details.



#8 spinnaker15136 OFFLINE  

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Posted Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:17 PM

 

 

Any tips on what to clean the edge connectors with?

 

Best has an alignment disk.   Is it worth purchasing?   I recall doing that years ago when I serviced  IBM PCs but I can't remember the details.

 

 

Ah I see.   There is actually a product called deoxit.   Should it be available locally in the US?



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Posted Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:18 PM

Lowes has something called CRC contact cleaner

 

https://www.lowes.co...eaner/999964587



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Posted Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:32 AM

CRC is a brand, as is Deoxit. There are several products they make that are meant for electrical contact cleaning - be sure to buy one thats safe for plastic exposure. Some will damage or discolor case pieces and plastic connector housings if they get wet.

In my experience, common plastic-safe CRC cleaner works fine for about 80% of what I need it for. Deoxit is like magic for badly corroded or very dirty contacts. I have some 2600 carts that I cleaned with CRC that didnt seem to make a difference, but when I tried again with Deoxit, they booted right up.

CRC stuff is available all over the place in the US - auto parts stores, Wal-Mart, etc. Deoxit I have only been able to buy on Amazon, and its fairly expensive. That said, it does not take much to do the job.

Edited by DrVenkman, Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:32 AM.


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Posted Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:26 AM

Of course, there is always the Indus GT option if you don't plan to modify it.

 

It's a shame no one ever came out with a happy mod (or something similar) for it. :(



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Posted Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:28 AM

Once more in normal people speak?

Yeah, I know what he means by the 8's (8-inch floppy drives) but not the "quads".

 

Of course that's probably 9:30 Sunday morning cloudyhead and I'll feel stupid when he actually tells is what it is.



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Posted Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:29 AM

Yeah, I know what he means by the 8's (8-inch floppy drives) but not the "quads".
 
Of course that's probably 9:30 Sunday morning cloudyhead and I'll feel stupid when he actually tells is what it is.


I read it as “8 inch quad-density disks.” *shrug*

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Posted Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:30 AM

 

 

Yep that is it.   Sent you a message on connectors via eBay.   Can you check please?

You can get  power bricks just about any where: $15

https://www.walmart....qMaAg_oEALw_wcB

 

SIO cables and connectors I would check with:   

 

Best, http://www.best-electronics-ca.com/

B&C Computervision http://www.myatari.com/ , you will have to call bruce direct since his price list are down

Lotharek for cables and connectors  https://lotharek.pl/

 

and again around $15 

 

Since your a forum member I'll knock $10 from the price

 

Check out my reviews (its my wife's store, but I sell all the retro computer stuff)

https://feedback.eba...ve&interval=365

 

Rob


Edited by Umberto, Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:38 AM.


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Posted Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:16 AM

CRC is a brand, as is Deoxit. There are several products they make that are meant for electrical contact cleaning - be sure to buy one thats safe for plastic exposure. Some will damage or discolor case pieces and plastic connector housings if they get wet.

In my experience, common plastic-safe CRC cleaner works fine for about 80% of what I need it for. Deoxit is like magic for badly corroded or very dirty contacts. I have some 2600 carts that I cleaned with CRC that didnt seem to make a difference, but when I tried again with Deoxit, they booted right up.

CRC stuff is available all over the place in the US - auto parts stores, Wal-Mart, etc. Deoxit I have only been able to buy on Amazon, and its fairly expensive. That said, it does not take much to do the job.

 

 

Going to the auto parts store now to get oil for the lawn mower.  I will inquire thanks.



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Posted Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:20 AM

You can get  power bricks just about any where: $15

https://www.walmart....qMaAg_oEALw_wcB

 

SIO cables and connectors I would check with:   

 

Best, http://www.best-electronics-ca.com/

B&C Computervision http://www.myatari.com/ , you will have to call bruce direct since his price list are down

Lotharek for cables and connectors  https://lotharek.pl/

 

and again around $15 

 

Since your a forum member I'll knock $10 from the price

 

Check out my reviews (its my wife's store, but I sell all the retro computer stuff)

https://feedback.eba...ve&interval=365

 

Rob

 

Thanks for the replay to both here and ebay.   So what are the power requirements for the 1050?  What voltage and current?



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Posted Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:26 AM

Thanks for the replay to both here and ebay.   So what are the power requirements for the 1050?  What voltage and current?


The 1050 uses the same 9VAC transformer used by the 400, 800, and 1200XL.

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Posted Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:40 AM

 

Thanks for the replay to both here and ebay.   So what are the power requirements for the 1050?  What voltage and current?

As Dr Venkman stated standard 9VAC 50 watt or so, pretty common and easy to find, be careful from buying used on Ebay, very common they come with a blown fuse. The fuse can be replaced but a pain and you kinda destroy the case. All they are is a transformer and a fuse.


Edited by Umberto, Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:47 AM.


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Posted Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:10 AM

You can get  power bricks just about any where: $15

https://www.walmart....qMaAg_oEALw_wcB

 

The power supply linked there is only 1A. This may work on a 400, 800, 1010, or 850, but is not enough for an 810 or 1050. Those need 2.1A minimum.

 

Even the smallest Atari 400 PSU was 15VA, so 1A (9VA) is likely not enough for those too.

 

Also it's highly likely the connector on the linked supply is 2.1mm x 5.5mm, which is too small, These Atari computers & peripherals need 2.5mm x 5.5mm. Either by cutting and replacing the connector on the end, or with an adapter like this:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/153004915738

 

This one at walmart looks more likely to be a higher amperage, but they do what the chinese ebayers do and blur out the specs on the label so you can't see....

https://www.walmart....s-PSU/754039103



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Posted Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:26 AM

As Dr Venkman stated standard 9VAC 50 watt or so, pretty common and easy to find, be careful from buying used on Ebay, very common they come with a blown fuse. The fuse can be replaced but a pain and you kinda destroy the case. All they are is a transformer and a fuse.

 

Actually I have one from the 810.   I also  need to check my huge stock to see if I have a wall wart that would fit the bill.



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Posted Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:18 AM

I recommend these for 810 and 410 replacements

 

https://www.ebay.com...id=264257629917

 

https://www.ebay.com...ery!74039!US!-1



#22 spinnaker15136 OFFLINE  

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Posted Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:47 AM

I recommend these for 810 and 410 replacements

 

https://www.ebay.com...id=264257629917

 

https://www.ebay.com...ery!74039!US!-1

 

 

LOL.   My buddy has had a whole garage full of DEC  equipment for years.   I keep trying to tell him to sell on eBay.



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Posted Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:03 PM

CRC is a brand, as is Deoxit. There are several products they make that are meant for electrical contact cleaning - be sure to buy one thats safe for plastic exposure. Some will damage or discolor case pieces and plastic connector housings if they get wet.

In my experience, common plastic-safe CRC cleaner works fine for about 80% of what I need it for. Deoxit is like magic for badly corroded or very dirty contacts. I have some 2600 carts that I cleaned with CRC that didnt seem to make a difference, but when I tried again with Deoxit, they booted right up.

CRC stuff is available all over the place in the US - auto parts stores, Wal-Mart, etc. Deoxit I have only been able to buy on Amazon, and its fairly expensive. That said, it does not take much to do the job.

 

 

I got the actual deoxit since it is so highly recommend.  Only place nearby that handle it is Guitar Center.



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Posted Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:18 PM

1050 Power Supply (transformer) Part #: C017945.

 

Call Best Electronics..

 

408-278-1070 (1:30 - 5 PM, PST, M - F)




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