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#1 shoestring OFFLINE  

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Posted Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:55 PM

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Posted Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:17 PM

I saw this . . . kinda meh from me.  I've already played this game re-released on every Nintendo system ever.  I can't really get too excited about a C64 version.  I wish they had done something new with it.



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Posted Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:25 PM

I saw this . . . kinda meh from me.  I've already played this game re-released on every Nintendo system ever.  I can't really get too excited about a C64 version.  I wish they had done something new with it.

 

Graphics are slightly different but the sound is spot on and game play is close to the original.

 

I haven't had enough time to play it but I'll be spending a few hours on it tonight to see what the fuss is all about :)



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Posted Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:18 PM

I saw that, looks and sound pretty nice.

I need to try it myself in real c64.



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Posted Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:22 PM

Seems like a great technical achievement, but because it is a copy of the original game then all the little problems really stand out.  I played the first level and the colors were off.  I also experienced very noticeable slow down every time there was more than one goomba on the screen.



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Posted Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:41 AM

I spent a little more time playing. It's understandable for a 1mhz machine but if they can't get it to run smooth at full speed then they should at least lock the framerate down to 25.

 

And what's going on at the top of the screen when Mario jumps through it?



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Posted Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:14 AM

Graphics are slightly different but the sound is spot on and game play is close to the original.

 

I haven't had enough time to play it but I'll be spending a few hours on it tonight to see what the fuss is all about :)

 

Gameplay is identical to the original. Aside from extra lag frames if running on a non-turbo system, everything works. Jumping off a powerup works (by letting up on jump and pressing it again before touching the powerup), wall jumps work (by catching Mario on a tile boundary and pressing jump during the first frame that his standing sprite displays), that one jump works in 8-1 between the secret area and the Starman, where you can jump at full speed off the top platform and always stomp a Paratroopa. Even the minus world trick works (although whether it's world 36 or a different number due to different tile assignments), although it dead-ends at -3.

 

This is as literal as a Super Mario Bros port could get. I bet if you could compensate for differing lag frames, and corrected for the input system, even a TAS might have a chance of working with this.


Edited by LocalH, Fri Apr 19, 2019 9:15 AM.


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Posted Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:42 AM

It is super impressive. It is an exact copy of Super Mario, which was released 5 years after the C64 on a dedicated game machine with more sprites, more colors, more tiles, more sound channels, and a 70% faster processor.

If you run this on a C128 it uses the 2mhz borders trick and you get no slowdowns.

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Posted Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:34 PM

If you run this on a C128 it uses the 2mhz borders trick and you get no slowdowns.


Interesting, I wish I had not sold my c128 to see this in action

The slow down ruins the gameplay for me but it’s still a remarkable achievement. Just shows
what can be achieved on a stock 64 and how flexible the SID chip can be.

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Posted Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:01 PM

This is an amazing feat.  It's just incredible given how much work must have gone into this.  Miyamoto ought to personally congratulate the programmer (I know it won't likely ever happen).  Could you imagine how many copies this would have sold in like 1986?  It would have been staggering.



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Posted Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:59 PM



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Posted Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:16 AM

I love these near perfect conversions. For example, it is so fun to play Donkey Kong by Sock Master on the CoCo3. I can't wait to try this on my c128. It is great to hear that the 128 really perfects the gameplay.

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Posted Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:34 AM

Wow, just finished playing it. This is an amazing game, the music sounds great. I keep wanting to push a second button instead of joystick up, but I am getting used to it. It is just as addictive as the NES version.



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Posted Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:40 AM

Wow, just finished playing it. This is an amazing game, the music sounds great. I keep wanting to push a second button instead of joystick up, but I am getting used to it. It is just as addictive as the NES version.


30 years later the C128 finally pays off for gaming! I know there were a few that used the borders trick, but nothing this impressive.

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Posted Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:24 PM

This is an absolute thing of beauty.



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Posted Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:42 AM

I wonder if this can be ported on an Atari 8bit Home Computer

 

 

 

 


Edited by Atariboy2600, Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:43 AM.


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Posted Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:21 AM

This port is better than Great Gianna Sisters. However, if they had spent 7 years working on Gianna Sisters back in the 80's, then that would have been better as well.



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Posted Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:47 PM

Yes it’s a great port and Jeff Minter approves :). I’ve grown to really like it despite some of my recent nitpicking. Still hard to believe that there isn’t a NES console hiding somewhere in my c64.

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Posted Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:49 PM

And it's gone;
http://www.nintendol...os_watchful_eye

At least it was a completed project this time.

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Posted Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:52 PM

WTF. Was it released free? If so, I hope someone mirrored it. :mad:



#22 Atariboy2600 OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:06 PM

Where's the rom?



#23 shoestring OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:32 PM

google search, you'll find it.



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Posted Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:21 AM

Just so long as you do not have to play Whack-a-Mole against the Nintendo Legal Tournament Sniper Team.



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Posted Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:45 AM

Wow, even CSDb acts accordingly to the takedown. I would assume in a few months time, it might leak back to more official places, when the media hype is over unless Nintendo actively scans the entire Internet for new and reuploaded files.






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