Super-Genius! Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 We just finished Multicart #3 and it is now available for purchase at http://www.sunmark.com Here is a screenshot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 You are truly evil.... Already got me opting for an XEG system to plug these guys into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXG/MNX Posted June 30, 2003 Share Posted June 30, 2003 We just finished Multicart #3 and it is now avalable for purchase athttp://www.sunmark.com Here is a screenshot: Hi, Did you get all the rights to publish these games again? This must be a big job to track all these people and get a license to release it. TXG/MNX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Unlike some of the trolls around here , the rest of us appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Astrochance? Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylama Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Hi,Did you get all the rights to publish these games again? This must be a big job to track all these people and get a license to release it. TXG/MNX I am savoring the snide sarcasm of this post. Mmmm, troll-o-riffic! I strongly suspect that you know the answer to this question already. If this is the case, then the only reason to ask such a question is to do something analogous to floating a turd in the punchbowl at a very intimate party...and we all appreciate it! If you are prepared to take some sort of "moralizing stance" on this topic then please start by destroying any software you possess that is not a genuine factory-produced copy (this applies to all platforms, of course) Then let's talk... This will take you a while...we'll wait. "Let he who is entirely without unlicensed software, cast the first irrelevant copyright-infringement stone..." It AMAAAAZES me how often this topic comes up on this forum. I mean, a DEAD PLATFORM (dead = no longer active in the market), with a cult following trying to keep the old beasts alive (which almost necessarily includes some form of piracy), and we've got this handfull of snotty wannabe-lawyers (or perhaps they are actually professional lawyers?) hypocritically baiting all the "copyright outlaws", which includes PROBABLY EVERYBODY HERE, including the baiters themselves. ...and they are MASTER-baiters... (pun fully intended) Is there some higher purpose to these "copyright morality eruptions"? Are there 8-bit enthusiasts who are self-defeatingly trying to kill the platform off once and for all? Cutting off their own noses... Seems senseless to me. Case in point: I seem to recall a current employee of Electronic Arts, applauding Sunmark for releasing MULE on cartridge. EA is the extant copyright holder. They seemed to be delighted, rather than upset. Am I missing something here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Case in point: I seem to recall a current employee of Electronic Arts, applauding Sunmark for releasing MULE on cartridge. EA is the extant copyright holder. They seemed to be delighted, rather than upset. Am I missing something here? I don't think one employee represents the sentiments of the company. But heck, the people here who take a moral stand probably have 1500 pirated games on hand anyway. What I think bothers them is that someone has come up with a way to make money with what we've all rightfully stolen. So, don't think of the cartridge as the selling of a bunch of pirated games, but rather as an organizer for what we've already archived. This is what the copyright holders should have done a long time ago, to offer collections of abondonware at a discounted price. On the other hand, all this piracy may eventually lead to major software houses abandoning the 8-bit. -Bry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetboot Jack Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 My opinions do not represent those of the Management sTeVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylama Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 I don't think one employee represents the sentiments of the company. But heck, the people here who take a moral stand probably have 1500 pirated games on hand anyway. What I think bothers them is that someone has come up with a way to make money with what we've all rightfully stolen. So, don't think of the cartridge as the selling of a bunch of pirated games, but rather as an organizer for what we've already archived. This is what the copyright holders should have done a long time ago, to offer collections of abondonware at a discounted price. On the other hand, all this piracy may eventually lead to major software houses abandoning the 8-bit. -Bry Bry, Concisely, elegantly, and wittily put. My hat's off to you! Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Bry, Concisely, elegantly, and wittily put. My hat's off to you! Andy Thanks! Love that cat picture! -Bry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fres Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Nice collection of games (MC 1, 2, 3). Good looking interface and layout. However, you guys really should get someone to proofread your multicart menus. Kangeroo, Astrochance, Wizard of War, others? These errors could easily be avoided to make a more polished and professional product. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 MC 3 didnt do much for me - something I misssing in the list of games? I got 1 & 2 though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
video game addict Posted July 1, 2003 Share Posted July 1, 2003 Yeah there looks like some rather boring titles on this one, more so than the first two. I'm still waiting for something a little more focused. All the 400/800 only titles or maybe just the Synapse ones, maybe an All Activision cart, All Parker Bros, or some arcade collections, I don't know just something with a more consistent theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted July 2, 2003 Share Posted July 2, 2003 Nice collection of games (MC 1, 2, 3). Good looking interface and layout. However, you guys really should get someone to proofread your multicart menus. Kangeroo, Astrochance, Wizard of War, others? These errors could easily be avoided to make a more polished and professional product. Just a thought. I think it adds "kitsch". Nir & Mark really do a great job with the carts, though, and it almost seems a little mean to quibble about various misspellings on the cart menus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetboot Jack Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 I agreee with ponderosa, since these carts are $40/50 they should be of high production quality... There is no excuse for mispelling a game name on these menus. And Mark and Nir should strive to get it right, they are quite capable of expending a few minutes to get that aspect correct if its taken many hours to build the cart image and manufacture them... sTeVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Nice collection of games (MC 1, 2, 3). Good looking interface and layout. However, you guys really should get someone to proofread your multicart menus. Kangeroo, Astrochance, Wizard of War, others? These errors could easily be avoided to make a more polished and professional product. Just a thought. I think it adds "kitsch". Nir & Mark really do a great job with the carts, though, and it almost seems a little mean to quibble about various misspellings on the cart menus. Yeah!... well at least the names are more than 11 characters. But I agree it wouldn't take much effort to fix the names of the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 If I'm not mistaken Astrochase is one word not two. Also Kangeroo should be Kangaroo, Kinderkomp should be KinderComp, and Star Wars is two words. Sorry, I'm a bit anal about these things... Edit: Hmm... On second thought Astro Chase might be two words, anyone know for sure? Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetboot Jack Posted July 3, 2003 Share Posted July 3, 2003 Astrochase is one word on my Parker cart and my First Star Disc Damn I love Astrochase! sTeVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krawhitham Posted July 14, 2003 Share Posted July 14, 2003 they are making money off other people's hard work work, period. If they want to release the plans so hobbiest can make their own multi-carts fine. But as it stand now they are breaking the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lais Posted July 14, 2003 Share Posted July 14, 2003 Hi,Did you get all the rights to publish these games again? This must be a big job to track all these people and get a license to release it. TXG/MNX I am savoring the snide sarcasm of this post. Mmmm, troll-o-riffic! I would normally stay out of this kind of thing, but I know TXG personally (as in having met him in person) and I can tell you he is being quite sincere, it was a straight question which I was about to ask myself. If such a cartridge is being so blatantly offered for commercial distribution, I, like TXG, genuinely wonder about the logistics of doing it legitimately. This is no moralizing stance, it's more concern for the company involved. Snide sarcasm it is most certainly not. Perhaps you don't know of Tim Conrardy, another regular contributor at MyAtari magazine, who works tirelessly spending personal time and money to track down former developers of Atari ST MIDI and music application software, to get it released as either freeware or shareware, in some cases even upated. At the same time this gets new users for the software, as he writes a monthly tutorial in MyAtari. Look at the result of his work at his personal web site http://tamw.atari-users.net/ and at MyAtari magazine, http://www.myatari.net/back.htm (pick just about any issue from 4 onwards, that's January 2001) I strongly suspect that you know the answer to this question already. If this is the case, then the only reason to ask such a question is to do something analogous to floating a turd in the punchbowl at a very intimate party...and we all appreciate it! What's that all about? I should also point out to you that TXG is a serious and dedicated Atari player/collector (as you should see from his sig) and has contributed a lot to this forum and the Atari scene in general. Look at part of his collection here: http://www.myatari.net/issues/dec2001/tipofday.htm Is there some higher purpose to these "copyright morality eruptions"? Are there 8-bit enthusiasts who are self-defeatingly trying to kill the platform off once and for all? Cutting off their own noses... Seems senseless to me. I think the ones jumping the gun are the ones erupting. TXG asked a perfectly straightforward and polite question and all I see here is people immediately snapping back and criticizing while none actually answering the question or making a half-reasonable attempt to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXG/MNX Posted July 14, 2003 Share Posted July 14, 2003 Hi, It's funny to see all these reactions after one simple question. Why I asked it? I tell you. I don't care if you publish more carts like these... when there is a demand for it, I will not stop you, but I know Lance of Video 61 also made/sells new cartridges and did spend alot of time to get the rights of the software he sold on cartridges... So I wondered if this was the samething, just curious. I never intended to stop people to produce carts like this. All this 8-bit support is cool... This is my last message about this topic, when it becomes a 'flame war' then I am considering to leave this board because I think everybody has the right to ask questions without being called names... TXG/MNX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylama Posted July 14, 2003 Share Posted July 14, 2003 ...I know Lance of Video 61 also made/sells new cartridges and did spend alot of time to get the rights of the software he sold on cartridges... So I wondered if this was the samething, just curious. I never intended to stop people to produce carts like this. All this 8-bit support is cool... This is my last message about this topic, when it becomes a 'flame war' then I am considering to leave this board because I think everybody has the right to ask questions without being called names... TXG/MNX What follows is intended as an apology: TXG/MNX, lais, et.al., lais's post prior to yours caused me to reconsider the significance of this topic and my attitude about it. I sincerely apologize for perceiving and succumbing to "flame bait" where there was none intended. Nothing I said was truly intended as a personal insult. Unfortunately, there have been some recent posts on this topic that were clearly posted with ill intention, and I was getting tired of it. As Bryede astutely observed, Sunmark is basically offering a product/service that organizes material that most of us had already. There could be very well be copyright issues involved, but in this particular scenario, under these particular circumstances, it does not benefit me personally to be concerned about them. We as a community are marginalized enough, and I hope never to do anything that further marginalizes it. I was (in my own oversensitive way) trying to defend the people who would market new products & services for the 8-bits. Evidently, I got a little carried away. Sorry. Ultimately, this is not my battle, so I beg pardon of anyone who got scorched in my rant, and I vow never to flame again. (very serious about this) Reformed, andy ...and yes, all the 8-bit support IS very cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXG/MNX Posted July 14, 2003 Share Posted July 14, 2003 It's okay be cool and support the 8-bit for the rest of your life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andylama Posted July 14, 2003 Share Posted July 14, 2003 It's okay be cool and support the 8-bit for the rest of your life You can bet on it! /resume love-fest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe C. Posted July 14, 2003 Share Posted July 14, 2003 Press "M" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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