DanBoris Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 There's also another big reason to go with Philly, it's close to where the orginizers live! Sure they could run it elsewhere, but putting one of these shows together takes a lot of work and having it close to home makes things a little easier. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christianscott Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 gun jumping to be sure but the NECG (new england classic gaming to you nube) is poised to step up if the east coast lacks for a real deal classic gaming convention. you can bet your rarest game we'd keep it classic and fun...we'll see what develops. boston has some good places, and funspot is also a possible option. hmm? for what its worth i really liked the philly classic i was lucky enough to attend but yeah i'm not up for a hall filled with kids being sold $45 dollar xbox games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManFan Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 Exactly. I didn't mind a few Genesis and Dreamcast games being sold here and there at the Classic (at least they're dead systems) but I'm not keen on an X-Box/PS2/Cube shift in the convention. At that point, why would I even bother going? I can get all that shit at home or on eBay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xot Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 I think Christian summed things up nicely. i Tf there is a change, that's not by itself a bad thing. Having modern games showcased at the event is not a bad thing - there have always been games from the entire spectrum available. What I think the general opinion is, is that whatever else happen, the focus remain on *classic* gaming and *classic* gamers. The name change, the "hacked" website, the list of "demands" all seem to be pointing to an event aimed at a younger audience and a focus on contemporary games. Unfortunately I think there's very little overlap in the audiences. Few of those who would go to Game Jam would go to Philly Classic, and few (but, admittedly, more) of those who went to PC would go to Game Jam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snider-man Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 Take a look at the name of the most recent member to AA. Looks like the PC website's 1337 ha><or decided to see what all the fuss was about. Or the PC organizers are curious as to what the hell they've done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Iacovelli Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 By all means, then, save it up and come to OKGE 2004. Assuming Crossbow's already planning ahead. Or better yet, Midwest Classic 2004. midwest needs to be more than a single day before i can justify traveling to it ^^ gavv Hopefully if all goes well VGS'04 will also happen. Dan Iacovelli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSmirk Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 I just came across this "hack" today and had posted in Events, where someone directed me to this thread.... Visited my fav WHOIS: Registrant: GameJam 121 Rodney Circle Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania 19010 United States Registered through: Go Daddy Software (http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: GAME-JAM.COM Created on: 07-May-03 Expires on: 07-May-04 Last Updated on: 07-May-03 Administrative Contact: Newman, David david@phillyclassic.com GameJam Looks like the name may be changing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wolfe Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 [Yoda] ahh, conclusions you jump to young Jedi... changing name, PhillyClassic will NOT[/Yoda] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wolfe Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 define "badly". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSmirk Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 second entirely different event, same producers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaXpress Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 To hell with Philly Classic. This is a truly idiotic way of promoting a show. You guys think that disinformation and rumors are cute? Just decide what kind of show you want and put it on without all this garbage. You people have launched the sloppiest viral marketing campaign I have ever seen. The effect: no one will give a rat's ass about whatever expo you do end up putting on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE146 Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 I have no idea what's going on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSmirk Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 I have no idea what's going on You're probably better off..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2600 Forever Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 define "badly". Badly is defined as how the phillyclassic organizers are handling this botched promotional idea. Badly can also be used as an adjective describing the attendence of next year's phillyclassic, or whatever it is going to be called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Wolfe Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 "Badly" is a completely relative and SUBJECTIVE term no matter what context it's used in. Negativity is being ignored. As are all of the assumptions being drawn [because they're all wrong]. ...back to planning the fun stuff. -R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2600 Forever Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 Then why not clear this mess up then? Quite an uproiar has been happening and people are getting more and more pissed as time goes on. Attendees, or former ones, are feeling like they are being treated like children. Drop this mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaXpress Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 Go ahead and plan your fun stuff, then announce just what you have in mind. A good gaming con is interesting news, a phony hacking story is lame. The hacked site gimmick and all the rest is just stupid. All it will accomplish is pushing people away from whatever show you have planned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xot Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 I really think it's time for David Newman to publicly state one way or another that this is a hoax or that PC5 is going to be Game Jam. And he is aware of the situation, I can assure you. The longer this goes on the worse it looks for PC5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veggiewolf Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 This is so odd...I thought Game Jam was something entirely different from PC5. Well, I have a few thoughts, anyway: (1) Lowering the price for entrance is all to the good. Imagine happening upon PhillyClassic with your kids and discovering it cost $15 apiece to enter something when you have no idea what it is. Would you pay that much to enter an unknown event? I wouldn't. (2) I had multiple people from out of town staying with me last year for the purpose of attending, and all of them wanted to see some of Philly in addition. Unfortunately, getting to Philly from Valley Forge/KoP without a car isn't easy at all - and they missed out on some of the greatest draws to the area because of it. I think putting PC5 in Philly proper would be more of a draw - go to PC5, and at night, have dinner in a great restaurant (sushi anyone?), and find some entertainment. Just my two cents...your mileage may vary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xot Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 This is so odd...I thought Game Jam was something entirely different from PC5. Well, I have a few thoughts, anyway: (1) Lowering the price for entrance is all to the good. Imagine happening upon PhillyClassic with your kids and discovering it cost $15 apiece to enter something when you have no idea what it is. Would you pay that much to enter an unknown event? I wouldn't. AFAIK all the promotional advertising mentioned the cost in it. Or at least, it was provided. Those who reported the story or ran the press release may not have included it. In any case, I don't see how many people could have just "run across it," and if you showed up at the door it was pretty easy to explain what it was and you could see the arcade Lowering the price IS good. Only if it draws more attendees, though. I thought the price point was pretty fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snider-man Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 I hope they use lots of X's and Z's in their promotional campaign. IT's DOPE! They can name it: X-TREME GAMERZ X-PO!!! MAZZIVE X-TREME X-CITEMENT! And please use "shiznit" a lot too. I know the fan base that made PC what it is LOVES that kind of approach. Werd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanBoris Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 To hell with Philly Classic. This is a truly idiotic way of promoting a show. You guys think that disinformation and rumors are cute? Just decide what kind of show you want and put it on without all this garbage. You people have launched the sloppiest viral marketing campaign I have ever seen. The effect: no one will give a rat's ass about whatever expo you do end up putting on. Can't be too bad of an idea, it's getting a lot of attention here, and that's one of the main jobs of Marketing. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soleblazer Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 Isnt it easier to get to a central philly location than VF? I personally would rather drive into the city than have to deal with the smaller and often more congested areas around VF. Philly is a great town to have such an event in, having it here (yes, I'm from Philly) could give the attendees something to do after each days events. Like it or not there are many a fun thing to do in the city, and its much cheaper than NY area. I think guys are acting like this supposed to be the next E3, I dont get that impression at all reading the hacked site, and if I can save some money in the process I am for it. -sole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted July 24, 2003 Share Posted July 24, 2003 I really think it's time for David Newman to publicly state one way or another that this is a hoax or that PC5 is going to be Game Jam. Well, I got this from him (sent to everyone on the PC list, so I'm guessing that it's OK to reprint it) : From: David Newman To: phillyclassic@yahoogroups.com Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 08:57:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [phillyclassic] Website Hi everyone: By now, there's been such a whirlwind over this incident... We're on it, and will update you as things develop. -- David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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