Fourth Horseman Posted July 30, 2003 Share Posted July 30, 2003 Hey all, I haven't played around with my 8-bit gear in a while, so maybe I'm just forgetting something really simple, but I can NOT get a file from a DOS 2.5 disk to a DOS XE disk to save my life. I purchased a new XEP80 interface from B&C and the driver disk is DOS 2.5. When I boot into DOS XE, it won't read the driver disk. So I go to the system menu and tell it to allow DOS 2.x access, which it seems to do. But then when I try to get a directory listing on the driver disk (or any DOS 2.x disk, for that matter) I get an error. I've tried reading DOS 2.x disks in both my XF-551 and my US Doubled 1050 drive. What am I missing? Any help or advice appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted July 31, 2003 Share Posted July 31, 2003 If you don't mind me asking, why use that atrocity called Dos XE? It had numerous compatibility problems and is really nothing but an interesting piece of software that does not have much use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourth Horseman Posted August 1, 2003 Author Share Posted August 1, 2003 Well, I've never had any troubles with it until now. I like the fact that it stays memory resident and doesn't have to hit the drive when I type "DOS". I like the way you can stack commands and run batch files. What would you recommend instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted August 2, 2003 Share Posted August 2, 2003 That's nice and all, but unless your using DOS for something besides maintenance, what is the big deal? If your that concerned buy on of those DOS on a cart thingies. I myself mostly used DOS for disk maintenance and moving files around, but other than that it did not get much use. I guess I don't understand why memory resident is that important. Do you live in DOS when using the computer? Spartados is a much better DOS and also lets you create batch files, and I think even MyDOS can run batch files. Both of those are available on a "cart". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourth Horseman Posted August 3, 2003 Author Share Posted August 3, 2003 A ROM based DOS isn't a good solution for me, as I like to switch out between my rev. C BASIC and assembly editor carts. I prefer it disk based, but like to keep both my drives free for other tasks. No, I don't "live in DOS" but I do make frequent use of it. Frequent enough that I prefer to have it load up immediately rather than hit a disk for it. As I said, I've never had any trouble with DOS XE until this incident. It's been stable and fast for me. I don't know what compatibility issues others have seen, but I don't have an extensive library of software on disk in DOS 2.x format, which is maybe why I haven't seen any compatibility issues until now. I suspect I'd get lit up by somebody no matter which DOS I decided to run. Thanks for your suggestion, though. I'll give Sparta a try. Is there any documentation on-line anywhere that you know of for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted August 3, 2003 Share Posted August 3, 2003 but I don't have an extensive library of software on disk in DOS 2.x format Umm... Dos 2 (or one of it's successors) is the most common Atari disk operating systems out there. Surely you jest?? BTW a "rom based" DOS would load up almost instantly. If you have a XE or XL computer, there was a routine to put DOS into underlying ram. It's in Antic someplace IIRC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourth Horseman Posted August 3, 2003 Author Share Posted August 3, 2003 I have games and such that are on DOS 2.x disks, but my own files and programs? No. My XF551 was the first drive I had on my 8 bit, so I started using DOS XE, which came with the drive. Obviously nobody else uses it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted August 4, 2003 Share Posted August 4, 2003 I used it when it first came out, but then I ran into it's limitations. Why copy your dos 2.0 files over if all you do is use it for basic programming? When you want to program pu in your DOS XE disk, and when you want to use your other disks but dos 2.0 or 2.5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourth Horseman Posted August 4, 2003 Author Share Posted August 4, 2003 That is actually what I do. The problem arose when I got the XEP 80 driver disk. I'd like to use the XEP 80 under DOS XE, but can not get DOS XE to read the XEP 80 (DOS 2.5) driver disk. That is the problem here. Don't get me wrong, I love defending my choice of DOS environments and explaining to everybody why I'm using the DOS that I am, but what I'd really like is some help with the problem I asked about. Seeing as nobody but me uses DOS XE, though, it looks like I'm fighting an uphill battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Kay Posted August 4, 2003 Share Posted August 4, 2003 Hello... I'm a fellow DOS XE enthusiast (fill up those disks with 360k, and a date stamp... could life get any better!!!), however, I don't have a clue as to how to help you with this pickle... Good luck though!!! Cheers! Joey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted August 5, 2003 Share Posted August 5, 2003 That is actually what I do. The problem arose when I got the XEP 80 driver disk. I'd like to use the XEP 80 under DOS XE, but can not get DOS XE to read the XEP 80 (DOS 2.5) driver disk. That is the problem here. Don't get me wrong, I love defending my choice of DOS environments and explaining to everybody why I'm using the DOS that I am, but what I'd really like is some help with the problem I asked about. Seeing as nobody but me uses DOS XE, though, it looks like I'm fighting an uphill battle. Sorry to be running you around in circles. I may be wrong but I think that XE cannot handle the 2.5 enhanced density format (I think 2.5 came out AFTER XE did). Format a blank disk in 2.0 format, (under DOS 2.5) and copy the file over. Then try reading it from DOS XE. It's been years since I messed with XE but I think that is the problem I ran into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourth Horseman Posted August 5, 2003 Author Share Posted August 5, 2003 Really? I always assumed XE was the last DOS Atari released. I'll give that 2.0 formatting trick a try. Thanks for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted August 6, 2003 Share Posted August 6, 2003 Really? I always assumed XE was the last DOS Atari released. I'll give that 2.0 formatting trick a try. Thanks for your help! It was the last one release, but I vaguely remember it having difficulty with 2.5 formatted disks. But it has been years so I may be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon Posted August 7, 2003 Share Posted August 7, 2003 Lemme know if it works... I'm just curious if my memory was correct. Hmm seems I had myself mixed up on the DOS releases. I think people didn't like XE so 2.5 was the released. who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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