starraider Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 hello, is there anything similar to the action replay cartridge on the atari? since there isn't any saveoption in most of the good ol' games, i find it quite hard to finish some of those gems.... is there any way to cheat on atari games at all? starraider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdie3 Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 I would think that you could hack any code to have unlimited lives or whatever else you need. I wouldn't have the slightest clue how to do that though. This seems to defeat the purpose of playing an Atari game IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted December 30, 2003 Share Posted December 30, 2003 OmniView allowed breaking out of a running program. I think that there was another one made in Germany...but I can't remember what it was called Or, you can just use a handy disk editor and hack the game (from a backup disk, of course) I used Scanalyzer to read the boot file and disassemble it, and took note of the bytes/sectors I wanted to change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 Atariwin 3.1+ emulator allows you to turn off a variety of collision detection and such - I was able to finish a horrible game called 'Space Cowboy' using this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starraider Posted December 31, 2003 Author Share Posted December 31, 2003 I would think that you could hack any code to have unlimited lives or whatever else you need. I wouldn't have the slightest clue how to do that though. This seems to defeat the purpose of playing an Atari game IMHO. nah, the holy purpose of playing an atari game won't disappear, just because of some extra lives Atariwin 3.1+ emulator allows you to turn off a variety of collision detection and such - I was able to finish a horrible game called 'Space Cowboy' using this yea,that's true... but playing it on the emulator just isn't quite like the same as playing it on the real thing.... the toughest game I ever played on the atari was "Wloczykij"....I was happy to finish the first level at all.... Another bitch was thunderfox...damn tricky gameplay... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracon Posted December 31, 2003 Share Posted December 31, 2003 Well, the best cheat possibility is in Atari800 Win emulator as has been said above. As for the real machine, I would recommend installing some hardware extensions like QMEG oS or a Freezer. Qmeg has own machinecode monitor and you can break the program, search for some code and then re-run stopped program (if you find its starting address, but some programs won't be run again). Freezer is much more better solution as it allows to break the program and then you have freezed ALL memory (Qmeg losts some unfortunately). Then you can search for cheats in built-in disassembler. Afterwards, you can back to the program (game) and it is successfull in 99% !!! I have got built both these extensions and they work great. BTW. there are some versions of freezer for Atari; mine is called "TIGHT FREEZER" and it may be somehow modification of HAPPY FREEZER that came probably from Germany.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starraider Posted January 2, 2004 Author Share Posted January 2, 2004 Well, the best cheat possibility is in Atari800 Win emulator as has been said above. As for the real machine, I would recommend installing some hardware extensions like QMEG oS or a Freezer. Qmeg has own machinecode monitor and you can break the program, search for some code and then re-run stopped program (if you find its starting address, but some programs won't be run again). Freezer is much more better solution as it allows to break the program and then you have freezed ALL memory (Qmeg losts some unfortunately). Then you can search for cheats in built-in disassembler. Afterwards, you can back to the program (game) and it is successfull in 99% !!! I have got built both these extensions and they work great. BTW. there are some versions of freezer for Atari; mine is called "TIGHT FREEZER" and it may be somehow modification of HAPPY FREEZER that came probably from Germany.... thanks for the detailed answer, I might find some of those someday at ebay, but I bet they're hard to find nowadays and pretty expensive.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracon Posted January 2, 2004 Share Posted January 2, 2004 [thanks for the detailed answer, I might find some of those someday at ebay, but I bet they're hard to find nowadays and pretty expensive.... Hey, don't give up! "Seek and you will find" - this famous sentence is true. Nowadays, in Poland is at least one person (PASIU/SSG) who can install such hardware extensions and I think it doesn't cost so much. But you should contact him via e-mail (I don't know whether he is/isn't busy right now). As I mentioned above you can try to cheat in games with QMEG or Freezer but keep in mind that some assembler knowledge is needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+rdemming Posted January 3, 2004 Share Posted January 3, 2004 Here a picture of the Turbo Freezer-XL which enables you to freeze almost every game and then use the disassembler to change the memory contents. After that you could continue the game with the alterations you made in the debugger. It also enables you to save a freezed game to (ram)disk and reload it later and start it from the saved point. I used it to save a game after each finished level. If I died, I just reloaded the last saved level and continued. More information and codes to be used with the Freezer/Atari800Win Plus emulator can be found here. Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starraider Posted January 3, 2004 Author Share Posted January 3, 2004 Here a picture of the Turbo Freezer-XL which enables you to freeze almost every game and then use the disassembler to change the memory contents. what kind of moster-atari is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+rdemming Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 what kind of moster-atari is that? Just an 800XL with 256Kb (old SIMM module). The 7-segment display shows which of the memory banks is selected. The two leds beside it indicate if the Antic or CPU access the extra memory. The two leds beside the cartridge slot indicate which cartridge bank is accessed. The row of six leds indicate IO access, OS rom on, OS rom access, Basic rom on, Basic rom access and selftest rom on. The four buttons on top are four extra cursors keys as found on a 1200XL I believe. The group of three toggle switches on the left selects between the original OS or one of the four extra OSses (APE Warp, 800 OS, etc.) Further an extra 800 style reset button (to freeze games that have disabled interupts). One of the two switches in the middle disables the memory expansion (some games that support 4 joystick ports (e.g. versions of The tail of Beta Lyrae) do not work with extra memory because they change the bankswitch registers to access the extra joystick ports). The other switch disables the cartridge slot (Usefull to boot a program that dumps the cartridge). Finally it has a build-in SIO2PC interface. The only things missing is a stereo Pokey and internal harddisk interface :-) Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendon Posted January 4, 2004 Share Posted January 4, 2004 Here a picture of the Turbo Freezer-XL which enables you to freeze almost every game and then use the disassembler to change the memory contents. Damn, that is one nice looking machine!! Never saw anything like that before; even the switch on the back to go between 64k & 256k. Very, very nice! Mendon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted January 5, 2004 Share Posted January 5, 2004 Here a picture of the Turbo Freezer-XL which enables you to freeze almost every game and then use the disassembler to change the memory contents. Damn, that is one nice looking machine!! Never saw anything like that before; even the switch on the back to go between 64k & 256k. Very, very nice! Mendon I'm not sure I'd call it nice-looking, though I'm sure Mary Shelley would... There's a diffrence between neat-loking and nice-looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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