chris_lynx1989 Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 i heard a rumor from a very reliable source(name deleted) about a real quick and dirty release of a lynx maze game this last friday,saturday and sunday that sold the entire production run fast!makes you wonder what all those lucky stiffs got too!my tongue is still hanging out over that and the blood has not returned to my face yet.i'm still agast over this possible hap- pening.why was i not in the "loop" on this?my lynxes are still crying over this.i don't think they'll ever forgive me for missing this.i'm on the web quite a bit,what site should i have been on to get one of these "whatevers" on friday?what the hell happened? did anyone else hear about a happening like this over the weekend?i'm told this really did happen on a site for a rather short offering by a really reliable source in atari informat- ion circles.grrrrrrrrr,i'm still fuming over missing this stuff. this reminds of the time on deja news back in 1999 when i missed another very short offering of a game supposedly called "evergreen" that was ma- de available with a production run of thirteen(13) copies before it was put on the d.o.a. list and cancelled.has anyone ever seen evergreen?i've not heard of it since.was it real?a hoax?only a rumor?supposedly it was a sp- ace combat game or something.i have never come across a copy myself. anyone else ever seen this title at cge or jagfest?anyone have any input on the weekend's happenings or this?--the lynxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocket Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 Never heard about this story. Seems a hoax for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted January 7, 2004 Share Posted January 7, 2004 I didn't hear anything about this, either, and -- if it's the game that I'm thinking about -- I don't think that this is a realistic rumour. Someone's trying to acquire the legal rights for that and plans (if they can be got) to make this one a commercial release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_lynx1989 Posted January 7, 2004 Author Share Posted January 7, 2004 what game do you think it was?what type of game came to mind when you saw my post?was it a fighting game?the rumor i heard sounded to be a fight to the death in a maze or a bunch of corridors like doom or avp for the jag or pc(but not these platforms).would like to hear what you were thinking about. also, what about evergreen?did you ever see one of these carts?-the lynxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 what game do you think it was?what type of game came to mind when you saw my post?was it a fighting game?the rumor i heard sounded to be a fight to the death in a maze or a bunch of corridors like doom or avp forthe jag or pc(but not these platforms).would like to hear what you were thinking about. also, what about evergreen?did you ever see one of these carts?-the lynxer I'm afraid that I'm really not in the Lynx development loop, so am a bad person to ask about "Evergreen". This is the first that I've heard about it. The Lynx is a strange beast; there are relatively few diehard collectors for the system, so I'd bet a good deal of games that were in development at the time of the Lynx's commercial demise haven't yet been ferreted out by fans with deep pockets, as has been the case with the 2600. If someone offered $1000 or $2000 for that French Lynx game that was "discovered" last month, I'm sure a working copy would surface. The Lynx does not, unfortunately, have a lot of rabid fans at the present time, and I would be very surprised indeed if any "limited run" of even a very rare / unreleased game would sell out in a matter of hours. Look at "Lynx Reloaded": only a few carts were made of that one, and I think that it still took a couple of weeks for the first batch to sell out. "Lexis" is another good example of this: only 150 carts were made, and yet Carl hasn't yet sold out of the first cart run. Oddly, finished games keep popping up with little advance notice or rumour that they even existed in the first place. This certainly isn't typical of most systems. In any case, I thought of four possibilities for your "limited release" game: 1. EOTB (not likely); 2. One of the half-finished "Doom" clone projects that are floating around; 3. "Dungeon Slayers" (or variant), also not likely. 4. A later version of AvP. Rumours have swirled around for years that a "finished" version of this game exists. And, speaking of limited-release games, I'm surprised that no one's yet found a copy of 720 out there.[/i] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_lynx1989 Posted January 8, 2004 Author Share Posted January 8, 2004 that is a nice list of possibles to consider. as far as i know only a small amount of rom exists for 720--and only some still images on an eprom for the sces or wces shows back in the day.the howard may have a little of this code as "starter code" for some developer for help in getting a lynx project rolling. if it exists it could be on a harddrive in some closet somewhere.--the lynxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_lynx1989 Posted January 8, 2004 Author Share Posted January 8, 2004 word now has it that this "really" did happen with a previously unreleased atari game of no name yet in europe.it is said that only 24 or more of these were made up for collectors of lynx stuff.(makes you wonder what the few lucky stiffs managed to get a hold of).it was said that this release was rather more expensive than any lynx release thus far.i was told that these were going for some $300 dollars each at introduction.that is a pret- ty stiffly priced lynx game!!how many takers on this forum would've gone and coughed up that much?i see a lot of hands,who's telling the truth?come on guys,be honest about this,and let's have a real show of hands. would 2 or three dozen of us had jumped at the chance they had?depends on the game for me,i guess.i wasn't asked,though! is that the ultimate piss off,or what? makes me wish i lived in europe somewhere.--the lynxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOK-dfa Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 Well, I seriously doubt that a lynx game of $300 would sell more than 24 copies in a single weekend. As mentioned before, there are not that many hardcore Lynx collectors, and even less that would pay that amount of money just for a single game... Cheers, Raymond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Songbird Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 "Lexis" is another good example of this: only 150 carts were made, and yet Carl hasn't yet sold out of the first cart run. Update: Lexis finally sold out as of the end of last year. So I'm building new runs (but very small runs) of Lexis in 2004. 3. "Dungeon Slayers" (or variant), also not likely. Somebody has this game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 Lexis finally sold out as of the end of last year. Hmm... I wonder if I got one of the last ones. It's actually a really fun game. I got to around the 8 board before I started losing it (I think it was like 5 letter words). Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 I think that "Lexis" is a must-have, and the hidden game of "Galaxian" is a great bonus. Then again, I love puzzlers. As for "Dungeon Slayers", I've seen too many different screenshots and heard too many rumours not to think that there's a working copy(ies) of this game out there. It was announced quite a few years before Atari halted all development on the Lynx, so I would be very surprised indeed if no work at all had been started on this one. I don't think the game ever was finished, but you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_lynx1989 Posted January 8, 2004 Author Share Posted January 8, 2004 Well, I seriously doubt that a lynx game of $300 would sell more than 24 copies in a single weekend. As mentioned before, there are not that many hardcore Lynx collectors, and even less that would pay that amount of money just for a single game... Cheers, Raymond i'm thinking that if the right lynx game showed up in a beta/final beta form there might just be 24 to 36 lynxers that would make a grab for it even if it were priced at the steep admission price of $300 dollars.i'm talking a near complete/complete unreleased lynx prototype here,though.such as: rolling thunder,720,vindicators,alien vs predator,heavyweight contender, cabal,relief pitcher,eye of the beholder,space war, geo-duel,strider 2 and some other unannounced ones that were being worked on by atari and at some other places.some of these have not been seen since e3 '95 or even before that.if a copy of cabal showed up,i'm sure there would be at least one lynxer out there that would take notice of it real fast!would'n't you?i just might.i'm not totally oblivious to the world and lynx world going on ar- ound me.would i be the only one that would grab a proto like this when it was presented to me? i guess so.i "must" really be a diehard lynx fan! --the lynxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted January 8, 2004 Share Posted January 8, 2004 I certainly wouldn't pay that kind of money for any of those games. I know that greed is a powerful force in the world, and that if a run of 24 or so carts was actually produced, at least one of those collectors is going to copy his or her cart on the sly and start selling repro repros on the side. It'd therefore be like paying $300 for a copy of Road Riot 4WD today; why do it? If there was indeed a cart run of some unreleased game last weekend, I guarantee that we'll see copies for sale -- at a much lower price -- before the year's out. I paid a pretty penny for my copy of PITS, but I made sure to get the unique carrying case and all of the supporting documentation for that one. This is the only scenario for which I can envision spending more than $100 USD on a Lynx cart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_lynx1989 Posted January 9, 2004 Author Share Posted January 9, 2004 I certainly wouldn't pay that kind of money for any of those games. I know that greed is a powerful force in the world, and that if a run of 24 or so carts was actually produced, at least one of those collectors is going to copy his or her cart on the sly and start selling repro repros on the side. It'd therefore be like paying $300 for a copy of Road Riot 4WD today; why do it? If there was indeed a cart run of some unreleased game last weekend, I guarantee that we'll see copies for sale -- at a much lower price -- before the year's out. I paid a pretty penny for my copy of PITS, but I made sure to get the unique carrying case and all of the supporting documentation for that one. This is the only scenario for which I can envision spending more than $100 USD on a Lynx cart. may i ask what "pits" is?you seem to be saying it was a lynx game that you paid over $100 dollars for.what was the unique carrying case and the documentation for it like?i do not think you are referring to pit-fighter with your statement,are you?that is the only thing i know of that would seem to resemble the word "pits" that you gave.i would not pay that for pit-fighter ,either.if it was an experimental 1024k version of lynx pit-fighter, then i would then pay that for it.or if it were the original 512k version of dracula: the undead with the battery backup instead of the 256k version without the backup we have now to play.if it was unusual in the lynx field,i would take an interest in it!--the lynxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted January 9, 2004 Share Posted January 9, 2004 I certainly wouldn't pay that kind of money for any of those games. I know that greed is a powerful force in the world, and that if a run of 24 or so carts was actually produced, at least one of those collectors is going to copy his or her cart on the sly and start selling repro repros on the side. It'd therefore be like paying $300 for a copy of Road Riot 4WD today; why do it? If there was indeed a cart run of some unreleased game last weekend, I guarantee that we'll see copies for sale -- at a much lower price -- before the year's out. I paid a pretty penny for my copy of PITS, but I made sure to get the unique carrying case and all of the supporting documentation for that one. This is the only scenario for which I can envision spending more than $100 USD on a Lynx cart. may i ask what "pits" is?you seem to be saying it was a lynx game that you paid over $100 dollars for.what was the unique carrying case and the documentation for it like?i do not think you are referring to pit-fighter with your statement,are you?that is the only thing i know of that would seem to resemble the word "pits" that you gave.i would not pay that for pit-fighter ,either.if it was an experimental 1024k version of lynx pit-fighter, then i would then pay that for it.or if it were the original 512k version of dracula: the undead with the battery backup instead of the 256k version without the backup we have now to play.if was unusual in the lynx field,i would take an interest in it!--the lynxer I think I paid about $2.50 for "Pit Fighter", and that's about all it's worth. P.I.T.S. is also known as "The Lynx Driving Cart". It was coded in the early '90s in Germany as a driving-school aid, and consists of a series of multiple-choice tests for drivers attempting to earn their operator's license for passenger vehicles. It was marketed and sold only to a few German driving schools. I don't think that any "sequels" were made for things like the German motorcycle or truck licenses. P.I.T.S. came in a clear plastic "briefcase" that included a comprehensive (but in German -- blast!) instruction manual and a few cool bonuses. These kits are still sometimes found on the German eBay, but they routinely sell for upwards of $150. My German-language skills are pretty much nil, but I enjoy playing the cart for the nifty digitized pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_lynx1989 Posted January 9, 2004 Author Share Posted January 9, 2004 all right,now i know what you're talking about.all you had to say was that. i was offered one of these packages by a guy in england or germany back about 3 or 4 years ago.i used to have some scans of it still in my inbox a couple years ago.there were some scans of that "pack" here on aa in the lynx forum last year.i remember that unit very well.i read a little bit of german,but my family no longer speaks it fluently here in the states to totally under stand it.i have a friend that does and they could decipher the manual for you,if you wish.--the lynxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+karri Posted January 9, 2004 Share Posted January 9, 2004 I don't know anything about the weekend sellout. But I still remember what happened in 1999 at alt.games.lynx. There was a guy who claimed that he has a bunch of programmers writing a new fighting game called Evergreen. To prove his point he posted a picture of a green room with a window and a red blob of blood on the floor. Evergreen was supposed to be like Doom with good AI for the enemies. The same guy also claimed to have a Windows desktop in devlopement for the Lynx including applications like Word etc... So I assume he was just daydreaming. Of course there may be two projects called Evergreen so I hope I don't offend any developers who may be working on this. -- Cheers, Karri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted January 9, 2004 Share Posted January 9, 2004 Karri, I'm with you, that guy was either skylarking, or bullshitting. It read like a hoax up all the way up and down from day one. If I were a betting man, I'd bet the farm that there's absolutely no such thing as Evergreen for Lynx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory DG Posted January 9, 2004 Share Posted January 9, 2004 If I were a betting man, I'd bet the farm that there's absolutely no such thing as Evergreen for Lynx. Hmm... Wasn't Evergreen a hoax game by one of the better known trolls? Can't think of his name, but I remember that name "Evergreen" being fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_lynx1989 Posted January 9, 2004 Author Share Posted January 9, 2004 i remember it from the day,too.they had a link for a time set up that had the claim of two more games were going to be released in 2000 for lynx-- one was called "river run"(river raid?),and the other game name now does seem to escape me. there was also the supposed hoax of 1999 of the developer "metasoft" and they were going to be releasing the game "slime world 2:all slimed up". this sounded to be a great title,on the the surface anyway.it turned out the web address given for more info and updates turned out to be a porn mak -ing house or something in seattle,i believe.no more really turned up on this really,either,as i remember.more crap,i guess.--the lynxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwedenLynxer Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Has this mystery been solved yet? Was it just a hoax? If not, someone here must know the name of the game. WHAT game was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sauron Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 Wow, looks like the Lynx is starting to catch up with the Jag as far as hoax games go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_lynx1989 Posted January 14, 2004 Author Share Posted January 14, 2004 this event did really happen "and" a game was released for the lynx, believe it or not.that is the truth of the matter.i know someone that managed to get one of these secret gems for their lynx and their lynx collection.i may get to see it here in the near future in person.this person may be one of a couple that could bring this to jagfest or cge this year.i cannot say their name in open forum yet.i have not seen the thing yet to say what it truly is for sure now.the person wants to remain in a quiet corner for the moment,till the dust from this settles.i guess,i can sort of appreciate their position on this.to give their name and stuff might give it all away and the site address it came from across the sea.i'll honor their wishes for the time being. i'm looking forward to getting a brief view of this rather soon,i guess.i'm waiting for a call from them concerning my getting to see it.sort of exciting.i can't wait!--the lynxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce182 Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 When you are finally able to broadcast the name of the game or even the genre of game be sure to clear it with the CIA or MI6. Would not want you release any "top secret" lynx infomation as this may cause the whole lynx movement to collapse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOK-dfa Posted January 14, 2004 Share Posted January 14, 2004 I don't get it either. Why would people spend a lot of time on making a lynx game (this is not something you would do in a few days) and then keep it secret and only release a few copies ? Just doesn't make any sense I highly doubt it that any of these game you speak of actually exist... Cheers, Raymond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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