+johnnywc Posted July 25, 2001 Share Posted July 25, 2001 Some time ago I recall reading a post that a book on programming games for the Atari 2600 would be available at CGE. Any truth to this? If not, does anyone know of such a book or if one is in progress? Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMika Posted July 25, 2001 Share Posted July 25, 2001 Hey, Chris Charla and I are indeed working on a "How to Program the 2600" book. Unfortunately, it's a side project and things are pretty crazy at our day jobs (Digital Eclipse Software) right now. The sad result is that the book, which we wanted to have done way back in April, is still not done! At CGE we hope to show some aspect of the book -- possibly the first chapter in .pdf form, and hopefully some demos from the book. We apologize for it taking so long! We never would have announced it so early if we didn't expect it to be done by now. We hope the finished product is well worth the wait. Just to remind everyone, the book is geared for complete non-programmers to intermediate programmers, offering pre-programmed kernals with explanations, but also exercises to help folks understand the 2600, with easy to modify code. Many won't understand that much of it, except how to change the way a sprite moves and looks, and interacts... while the more intermediate folks will be able to change the kernal and learn display techniques, etc. It is quite an undertaking, and was originally modelled after the Compute! series of programming books. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted July 25, 2001 Share Posted July 25, 2001 Mike, I really look forward to reading your book. I'm a (game) programmer by trade, but I've never taken the time to learn how to program the 2600. I'm sure your book, plus your libraries, will make it much easier for programmers and non-programmers to learn. With any luck it'll usher in a new era of quality, homebrew 2600 software. It'll be a nice change of pace from writing software for today's PCs and consoles. Hope to see you (and whatever you have to show of the book) at CGE! ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari70s Posted July 25, 2001 Share Posted July 25, 2001 Albert did you get my email i sent you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindfield Posted July 26, 2001 Share Posted July 26, 2001 Actually I'm rather interested in this book. I've done my share of programming back in the day, but strictly for 8 and 16-bit machines, and my assembler knowledge was limited to 6502 and some basic 80x86. Still, I loved assembler for its cryptic, yet simplistic and powerful style. I'm rather interested in maybe taking a poke at 2600 programming, just for the challenge of working with a primitive system that had virtually no RAM in which to store anything. :-) Out of curiosity, is there anything in this book that would touch upon bank switching techniques? It'd be cool enough to write a relatively simple 4k game, but it'd be wonderful to take what one could learn from that and expand upon it by making a larger, more robust game using more addressing space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwilkson Posted July 28, 2001 Share Posted July 28, 2001 From a software point of view, there's really not much difference in a 4k game vs. an 8k game. It depends on the hardware implementation, of course. But the basic idea is that you access a special "hot address" when you want to use a different bank. The hardware in the cartridge watches the address bus and performs the appropriate switching automatically. In the "standard" Atari bankswitching format (referred to as "F8") you have two 4k banks. If you want to use the first one, you first perform a read from (hex) address $FFF8. If you want to use the second bank, you read from address $FFF9. The switch happens immediately and the new data is available on the very next instruction. I agree that basic bankswitching should at least be touched upon in any book about 2600 programming. Maybe as a last chapter. Heehee... "Chapter 69: Beyond the 4K Boundary". I'm also very interested in reading this book. I make 2600 hardware, but still haven't programmed anything beyond diagnostic routines and test programs for my projects. I WANT TO MAKE A GAME!!!! -Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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