+cvga Posted July 23, 2001 Share Posted July 23, 2001 It was fun reading about everyone's favorite 5 games but who do you think are the top 5 2600 collectors worldwide? I could be wayoff but I'll take a stab and guess the following: 1. Marco 2. Ianoid 3. JerryG 4. Jeff Rothkopf 5. John Hardie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
videotwit Posted July 23, 2001 Share Posted July 23, 2001 A few years ago, Leonard Herman (Author of Phoenix...) said he only needed 2 games to complete his US released 2600 collection. That puts him #1 in my book. Saying who the top collector worldwide is a really iffy area - simply because there are people who are collecting NTSC carts only. Getting all 600 some NTSC carts is MUCH more difficult than amassing 2000 carts in general, in my opinion, but 2000 carts is still VERY impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahfish Posted July 23, 2001 Share Posted July 23, 2001 i'd have to say, marc oberhäuser is probably first after seeing a video about him and having him on the phone a few time. he's got more protos than tempest, and probably more boxed games than marco. while for the brazil carts and the weird stuff, i'd say marco is no. 1 BTW ... quoteThere's lunatics out there with 1000+ games in their collections... why do you call me a lunatic ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari70s Posted July 23, 2001 Share Posted July 23, 2001 im a lunitic want to be with 526 games. 1 in my book is Jerry G by far he just has everything lol ( got my dukes cart from him thanks man)im not familar with everyones collections however id like to learn about them . but i hope id fit in about 5th . i got lots of rare and wierd items . tons of systems . maybe im not as complete as many of the others but 526 games includes dukes proto gas hog atari video cube rubics cube carazy climber great escape teh odd chuck norris super kicks dingle ender label varation smurfs save the day for teh 2600 and my Mogul maniac cart(proto for the 8 bit system) is a good start for an 18 year old who started about 2 years back. i alsso have avbout 150 manuals and 80 boxed games in the 526. i even have a super pong by sears ( i want teh atari one yet ) but not bad i think but maybe my collection just sucks but i hope id be considered for this honorable list due to my young age and potencial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted July 23, 2001 Share Posted July 23, 2001 Hey I'm 24 and I'm still considered a kid to most collectors. 18? That means you were born in 83 right? You missed the good times... Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco(2) Posted July 23, 2001 Share Posted July 23, 2001 quote: Originally posted by cvga: It was fun reading about everyone's favorite 5 games but who do you think are the top 5 2600 collectors worldwide? I was looking for the blushing smiley, but it isn't there, so I just have to say.. thanks for the honour. I don't think you are right, but thanks anyway I have often thought about this. Of course, most of us collect because it's fun, but there is undeniably some kind of competition in it as well. But, and the replies to your posting already make that clear, there are so many ways to rank collections. Some examples of features that could be taken into account: Complete NTSC collection (complete PAL is well *really* impossible!) Most prototypes (of released / unreleased games) Most boxed games Most complete label variation collection Highest percentage of games actually found in the wild by collector himself Most unusual items / memorabilia Collection of consoles / controllers I've always wanted to make a website where we would first hold polls on which features we think are important, and to which extent. After a ranking system has been established, people would be able to enter their collections and see what rank they would attain. If their collection would grow, they could update their listing, to see if they would get a higher rank. Just some thoughts on this intrigueing topic... Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco(2) Posted July 23, 2001 Share Posted July 23, 2001 quote: Originally posted by cvga: 1. Marco 2. Ianoid 3. JerryG 4. Jeff Rothkopf 5. John Hardie You may be naming these people because they are relatively well-known. I know at least a handful of people though who operate in the background, that have 2600 collections that make me drool. I mean, boxed copies of Malagai, Gauntlet, Video Life, River Patrol, Music Machine, and Air Raid, or a PGP... Mmmm... Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted July 23, 2001 Share Posted July 23, 2001 I'm determined to get John Hardie's PGP-1. Maybe at the CGE? Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari70s Posted July 24, 2001 Share Posted July 24, 2001 yea 83 damn man i wanted to go to those game challenge meets wanted to see those programs and all . oh well might as well make up for ti now. i know my collection statement says 513 and counting but its now 526 amd counting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco(2) Posted July 25, 2001 Share Posted July 25, 2001 ... sad to let this topic die... c'mon you guys, post! I want to hear some opinions: do you even care about the competition? what would be good criteria to measure the value (not $$) of a collection? would an Atari 2600 Collection Ranking website be a good idea? Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco(2) Posted July 25, 2001 Share Posted July 25, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Pitfall Harry: A good criteria to measure the value (not $$) of a collection? Hmmmm... How about accessibility? Quite a good one, never thought about it. I can see what you're talking about, though I'm not sure it's a very strong criterion. Isn't it like undisovered beaches that only a handful of people visit versus the crowded beaches on the Spanish costas or any US equivalent of those? I mean, the white sandy beaches of small islands in the Pacific (unless they have been used as a nuclear test ground...) would certainly rank higher, even though only 0.00000000000001% of the world's population would ever come there to experience its wealth? I agree, someone who owns, the sole 2600 Pink Panther proto and shares it by dumping and releasing the ROM, would defenitely rank as a nicer person. But would his collection be worth less? (not talking $$) I have no idea, to be honest. Have to give it some more thought. Very intrigueing idea you put forward here Ben Any others? Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel D. Park Posted July 25, 2001 Share Posted July 25, 2001 Honeslty, I know I could never impress most or any of you guys, but it is fun to impress my friends and stuff who had an Atari 2600 back in the day.. They're all like, "Man I never even knew that existed.", "What were those guys smoking" stuff like that. That's when my collection really pays off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahfish Posted July 25, 2001 Share Posted July 25, 2001 i am still smoking that stuff play long and prosper! greetings ps: with all this canal three stuff and all the knowledge, i'd say you're my knew "king". i'll bow down at the eurocon BTW, i am turning 30 in a month ....been hunting 2600 since 97 again ... after finding a pack of boxed activision carts and falling in love with the design. talking about rankings, Activision have defenitely my no. 1 design concept with their colored stripes ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco(2) Posted July 25, 2001 Share Posted July 25, 2001 quote: Originally posted by jahfish: talking about rankings, Activision have defenitely my no. 1 design concept with their colored stripes ... Hmm, what about... the beautifully molded cases and big plastic boxes of Homevision? Those unbelievable gems of 2600 collecting by Video Gems? the mesmerizing golden Technovision boxes? Yummie... Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari70s Posted July 25, 2001 Share Posted July 25, 2001 do you even care about the competition? yea soem what , it is more of a motivational inspiration than competition i must do it. what would be good criteria to measure the value (not $$) of a collection? good one how easy it is to get (accessable) also how many people drool over your collection ( its always the iceing on the cake) would an Atari 2600 Collection Ranking website be a good idea? yea maybe if atari age server allows it they shoudl add it or link it to another site that is a branch off of this one. (Atariage collection Rankings) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahfish Posted July 26, 2001 Share Posted July 26, 2001 to marko: >>>> the beautifully molded cases and big plastic boxes of Homevision not too bad, but not very accessible to the main public. not even to me, i just have that reprocart, but not any boxed one whille i found many loose titles. >>>> Those unbelievable gems of 2600 collecting by Video Gems? >>> the mesmerizing golden Technovision boxes? same here, i haven't even seen any TV box, and for the videogems, the pict you posted earlier was the first where i could distincly see these boxes ... then: all of these companies have never produced any of the hot following items: incredible patches, overlay for the 4/6 switch (space shuttle) color manual and box, nice posters .... that's why now after thinking again, i will say once more that activision was the company that rules! it still does! i may be wrong, but they're the ones doin' tony hawk, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco(2) Posted July 26, 2001 Share Posted July 26, 2001 quote: Originally posted by jahfish: >>>> the beautifully molded cases and big plastic boxes of Homevision not too bad, but not very accessible to the main public. not even to me, i just have that reprocart, but not any boxed one whille i found many loose titles. I'd say the scarcity only adds to the beauty of these games... quote: all of these companies have never produced any of the hot following items: incredible patches, overlay for the 4/6 switch (space shuttle) color manual and box, nice posters... Hah, patches! Who needs those? The concept is simple: cart, box, manual. Three items that let you show what you can do. All the rest is just to distract attention from the real thing. And trust me, no Activision box or manual comes even close to Video Gems. Cheers, Marco BTW: Video Gems games came with lovely patches packed-in, you didn't even have to send in a picture of your high-score. They just trusted you to not wear your "badge of honour" untill you reached that score Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahfish Posted July 26, 2001 Share Posted July 26, 2001 send me one so i'll see how cool they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco(2) Posted July 27, 2001 Share Posted July 27, 2001 hey fish, you go out and hunt for games like you never did before and find me a boxed Steeplechase or Treasure Below. I'll trade you one of the three others for it Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
san-d-2000 Posted July 27, 2001 Share Posted July 27, 2001 Hey Marco, How´s that possible, do you have the three others boxed on your tradelist? San. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckhard Stolberg Posted July 27, 2001 Share Posted July 27, 2001 I have scans of the award stickers for two of the Video Gems games on the picture section of my website, in case anyone wants to see them. BTW Marco, as you also seem to have Mission Survive, can you please describe it's gameplay? I have never seen this game, not even as a ROM image. Thanks, Eckhard Stolberg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
san-d-2000 Posted July 27, 2001 Share Posted July 27, 2001 I have Mission survive, it´s a Moon Patrol kind of clone. Sandy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco(2) Posted July 27, 2001 Share Posted July 27, 2001 quote: Originally posted by san-d-2000: Hey Marco, How´s that possible, do you have the three others boxed on your tradelist? Hehe, if only... I can trade one of the three others for one of the two I still need though. Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eckhard Stolberg Posted July 27, 2001 Share Posted July 27, 2001 quote: Originally posted by san-d-2000: I have Mission survive, it´s a Moon Patrol kind of clone. OK, thanks. So, is it really an original game, or is it a copy of something else, like their Steplechase game? Could you please describe the game a bit more? How does it look like? Thanks, Eckhard Stolberg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
san-d-2000 Posted July 27, 2001 Share Posted July 27, 2001 You must know I haven´t played it for a while, the car you are controlling looks a bit like the car in Gashog, gameplay as far as i can remember is almost identical to Moonpatrol. I do believe it´s an original game, in the sence they programmed it from scratch, so it´s not moonpatrol with altered graphics. I will give it a go tonight to see the differences. Sandy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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