moycon Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 Can't wait for this one to get finished! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 Bump. Any further work on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+johnnywc Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 bad riddle, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+batari Posted January 4, 2005 Author Share Posted January 4, 2005 Bump. Any further work on this? No... The second binary I posted on this thread will be the last. I got bogged down with graduate school and was never able to pick it back up. This binary I talked about should also make into the main hacks database. It's complete as far as gameplay goes... the suggested changes were for graphics and sound, mostly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandmountainslim Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 When finished will this be called Venture 3? I have been planning on buying Venture 2 from the AA store but as I understand it it has only two levels like the Coleco version, maybe I shall wait on this one to be released on cartridge. SMS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanJr Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 Venture II is worth having and really set the standard for the quality of the hacks we have today. Its much better than the original Venture. This Venture (3) is also incredibly good, another step in the right direction. It is also worth having. But I have not heard anything from batari about releasing it on cart, so you may not be able to buy it ever. Ideally, I'd say you should have both. And if you want a really good Venture hack, wait for Wolfenstein to make it to cart very soon. Wow. I'm very excited about adding it to my collection! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandmountainslim Posted January 16, 2005 Share Posted January 16, 2005 Yeah I love the original Venture but it could be better, I will probably buy Venture 2. Wolfenstein? never heard of that one I shall do a AA search on it, if its coming out on cartridge I will probably want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+batari Posted January 18, 2005 Author Share Posted January 18, 2005 It's called Venture 3. I think that AA can make a cart for you, and I release any rights (if I had any in the first place) to the ROM so they can do this. Does AA make custom carts anymore? The issue is that I don't have the time or the money to make them myself. It takes time to clean off old cart shells, create labels, burn EPROMS and solder (or modify the cart shells to accept socketed EPROMS), and at at $7-$9 per board (8k bankswitching board w/socket), $1.50 per EPROM, maybe 50 cents for the label, $3 for shipping, and maybe a $1 each for the cart shells, it would cost me $13-$15 each out of pocket just to make and ship each cart, assuming my time is free (it's not.) Regardless, I have to ask, would there be any value in having me do this work instead of letting AA (or someone else) do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanJr Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 far as I know, Albert still does one-offs of any ROM you can provide him with. So anyone could request a Venture 3 to be run off and Albert would do it for a small fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandmountainslim Posted February 19, 2005 Share Posted February 19, 2005 Yeah, I definately wanna buy this one on cart, what is the usual cost for a one timer cart from AA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neotokeo2001 Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 (edited) A great hack needs a label: For another cool Venture game check out Venture 2: http://yosemite-sam.net/Games/Games.htm Edited May 10, 2005 by neotokeo2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neotokeo2001 Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 is there a way to change the color of the walls on the 3rd level so they don't look like the 1st level? I believe they were yellow/gold Yes! This one is easy, just a single byte. I'll do this in the next version I post here, hopefully in a few days. 707287[/snapback] Where is the byte located? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+batari Posted May 11, 2005 Author Share Posted May 11, 2005 is there a way to change the color of the walls on the 3rd level so they don't look like the 1st level? I believe they were yellow/gold Yes! This one is easy, just a single byte. I'll do this in the next version I post here, hopefully in a few days. 707287[/snapback] Where is the byte located? 852967[/snapback] Wow, I didn't expect this to be bumped again. I never did get around to doing this. Anyway, the byte is at 1BC7 from the beginning of the file, and the current value is hex 55. I'm not sure what yellow/gold color code is offhand, but if you want to figure it out and post the updated bin, be my guest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandmountainslim Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 Venture 3 is awesome! However I do think "Venture Arcade" would probably be a more fitting title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neotokeo2001 Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 (edited) is there a way to change the color of the walls on the 3rd level so they don't look like the 1st level? I believe they were yellow/gold Yes! This one is easy, just a single byte. I'll do this in the next version I post here, hopefully in a few days. 707287[/snapback] Where is the byte located? 852967[/snapback] Wow, I didn't expect this to be bumped again. I never did get around to doing this. Anyway, the byte is at 1BC7 from the beginning of the file, and the current value is hex 55. I'm not sure what yellow/gold color code is offhand, but if you want to figure it out and post the updated bin, be my guest. 853027[/snapback] This is a great hack that seemed to slip by me the first time. I am making a few tweaks to the graphics, Nothing major. Here is the 3rd level. Is that the right color? Lighter/Darker? Edited May 11, 2005 by neotokeo2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neotokeo2001 Posted May 11, 2005 Share Posted May 11, 2005 (edited) Venture Arcade Edition BIN(Work in Progress): Venture_Arcade_Edition.zip Changes made: Slimed down the player sprite(less hanging up on walls) Changed Hall monsters sprite exterior Changed Hall monsters sprite interior Changed wall color on floor 3(Is this the right shade of yellow/gold?) I was going to try to animate the monster sprites but after seeing Nukeys explanation on how to do it, it is a little beyond what I can do. Anyone want to give it a shot? Just fishing here, But would the Item/Intermission screen be possible? Edited May 11, 2005 by neotokeo2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 I dug into the original game, and seperated the GFX from the rest of the program. This allowed me to add in redundancy for all the GFX (so all the characters are animated based on what value the framecounter holds). This could also be used to add in additional levels...over half of the GFX bank is totally unused, and about 1/4 of the program bank is free. Another option would be to bump the playfield GFX register down much the same way (so that the screen GFX changes if you take too long on a room). Should be plenty of space to add in the 3rd level without needing an entire bank's worth of redundancy Venture8k.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neotokeo2001 Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 I dug into the original game, and seperated the GFX from the rest of the program. This allowed me to add in redundancy for all the GFX (so all the characters are animated based on what value the framecounter holds). This could also be used to add in additional levels...over half of the GFX bank is totally unused, and about 1/4 of the program bank is free. Another option would be to bump the playfield GFX register down much the same way (so that the screen GFX changes if you take too long on a room). Should be plenty of space to add in the 3rd level without needing an entire bank's worth of redundancy 855518[/snapback] Very cool. Looks good so far. I did notice two problems while playing the new BIN. 1. The treasure sometimes jumps back and forth. 2. The middle room on the second floor has flickering lines in the entrance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 Both are probably due to the program routines themselves no longer existing at their original memory locations...so it could be that a slight timing glitch cropped up in one of them. Fortunately, both are minor and do not affect gameplay at all. Tho if I could figure out how to do that door thing intentionally...that might lead to a pretty good addition to the game (i.e. close off the doors of rooms that have been completed). Current problem is to get the program to deal with 24 portals (instead of 16) and 15 screens (instead of 10). Without fixing those, a lot more redundancy would be required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandmountainslim Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 Batari has done a wonderful job on this hack, I have always loved Venture and enjoy Venture 2 as well but by adding the third level Bats has made it feel like a whole new game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+batari Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 Batari has done a wonderful job on this hack, I have always loved Venture and enjoy Venture 2 as well but by adding the third level Bats has made it feel like a whole new game Good to hear you enjoy it! Should be plenty of space to add in the 3rd level without needing an entire bank's worth of redundancy 855518[/snapback] Feel free to take my level 3 data. Aside from the playfield graphics, you'll need the treasure/monster graphics and position tables, the door position table, the color tables, the wall thickness tables, the pfroomoffsets table and maybe a few other things I can't remember now. Oh, and if someone wants to improve some of my level 3 sprite designs, have at it, I am no artist. I would post my source, but there isn't any, I did level 3 with hack-o-matic and a hex editor. I should have used dasm but hindsight is 20/20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Helmet Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Venture 3 is awesome! However I do think "Venture Arcade" would probably be a more fitting title 853035[/snapback] Ahhh...Venture Arcade! Now were talking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 It's becoming difficult to add in a level due to how some of the varibles work...so I'll probably go with routine duplication as batari did. I've already added the capability to the display bank, but it will also need to be done for the second bank as well. The glitches have been corrected for the 2-level version tho...this was due to a timing error from crossing a page. In addition, I added a flash to the screen when you are killed, and NTSC/PAL colors are selectable using the B&W switch (the 7800's springy switch is not supported yet tho). NOTE: the colors are loaded into ram as rooms are changed...so you won't notice them until you reset or change rooms. Venture8k.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neotokeo2001 Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 It's becoming difficult to add in a level due to how some of the varibles work...so I'll probably go with routine duplication as batari did. I've already added the capability to the display bank, but it will also need to be done for the second bank as well. The glitches have been corrected for the 2-level version tho...this was due to a timing error from crossing a page. In addition, I added a flash to the screen when you are killed, and NTSC/PAL colors are selectable using the B&W switch (the 7800's springy switch is not supported yet tho). NOTE: the colors are loaded into ram as rooms are changed...so you won't notice them until you reset or change rooms. 856521[/snapback] Yep. They look good now. The flash when you die is a nice touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted May 18, 2005 Share Posted May 18, 2005 It's not due to any sort of wizardry on my part I just moved the code so that page breaks still occur at the same points that they do in the original 4k game's code. Still way off from getting anything substancial added. However, many of the ram locations use only a few bits. So by creative use of the AND and ORA commands, a good chunk of ram can be reclaimed (and substantial additions almost always need a little bit o'ram). The original game also used only 261 scanlines, this hack was corrected to be 262 (otherwise, colors wouldn't be displayed in PAL mode). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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