Alex Posted November 24, 2001 Share Posted November 24, 2001 Many of you have seen these pirate carts before, but does anyone know who made them or where they were sold? I believe they're NTSC, made in Taiwan, and sold in North America (exclusively in Canada?). Does anyone have any additional or different info? I've seen some sellers on eBay who appear to have large stocks of these, anyone know where they got them? We're not sure under what name we're going to list these yet. Finally, these are the only four I have available to scan right now, we would welcome more scans or pictures of other titles in this style with the "New" blurb. I've seen "Demond Attack" and "Air Wolf", so we'll also be adding those although I don't have high quality scans. Please note these are different from the StarSoft titles that are in PAL/German without the "New". Unknown pirate games: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolenta Posted November 24, 2001 Share Posted November 24, 2001 quote: Originally posted by Alex: I believe they're NTSC, made in Taiwan, and sold in North America (exclusively in Canada?). They were sold in the US also. I bought a few at a little store in Elizabeth NJ while I was on a lunch break from jury duty. It's the kind of store that could be found everywhere in Manhattan, tourist traps where they sell all kinds of electronics. I can't remember what year I bought them, whether it was before 1984 or afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicJoke Posted November 24, 2001 Share Posted November 24, 2001 I have "Spider" and "Boxing" both are in bright green boxes. They are the exact same style as the ones you have. Same cheesy labels. On the back are a couple of lines of instructions and a screen shot. They both have price tags on them, but, if you don't mind that I'll scan them for you. Just email me or post a reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 24, 2001 Author Share Posted November 24, 2001 Yes, scans would be great! We can tolerate the price tags. Send them to editor@atariage.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicJoke Posted November 24, 2001 Share Posted November 24, 2001 I just figured out how to put pictures on this board. Alex: Here's one of them. Is this good? If you could, let me know how you want'em scanned in and at what resolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 24, 2001 Author Share Posted November 24, 2001 We'd prefer the front and back of the box, and the main and end label on the cartridge. AFAIK, these didn't come with a manual as the instructions were printed on the back of the box. 150dpi or higher. What you did would be fine at a higher resolution. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ren.dhark Posted November 24, 2001 Share Posted November 24, 2001 I got this games from the UK (I think they´re PAL). If you need scans please let me know. Günther [ 11-24-2001: Message edited by: ren.dhark ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 24, 2001 Author Share Posted November 24, 2001 Yes, scans please! Hmmm, if those are indeed PAL, that will confuse things even more. Do the carts look identical to the picture I posted, and CosmicJoke's scan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 24, 2001 Author Share Posted November 24, 2001 For anyone curious, here is the list of games in this style that I have pictures of. I've indicated the titles I will be able to scan myself, any other scans will be welcome: Air Wolf Baseball Bermuda Bowling (have scan) Boxing Chess (have scan) Demond Attack Free Way Frogger Ice Hockey (have scan) Mr. Postman Paris Attack Pele's Soccer Pitfall Popeye Puzzled World (have scan) Sea Quest See Saw S.O.S. Spider There are probably more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari70s Posted November 24, 2001 Share Posted November 24, 2001 ALEX i got baseball chess frogger pitfall Also tomboy same game) super ferrari and popeye i think these are Tiawain made pirate games this is what i heard when i ordered these games a year back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ren.dhark Posted November 25, 2001 Share Posted November 25, 2001 Yes, they are indentic. Here are the carts (I´ll mail the scans in the next days) Günther [ 11-24-2001: Message edited by: ren.dhark ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicJoke Posted November 26, 2001 Share Posted November 26, 2001 Alex I sent the scans to you in 2(maybe 3)emails. I may have sent one of the emails twice. I had to send them in jpg format since I seem to have problems emailing files over 1 meg or so. I scanned them in at 500 dpi and saved the file at the highest quality for jpg that I could. If these scans are ok, I will do the same thing with the other pirate cart and box, "Spider". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel D. Park Posted November 26, 2001 Share Posted November 26, 2001 Here's a scan for Donkey Kong and Enduro http://www.atari2600.net/aspDisplayPicture...rateDKFront.jpg http://www.atari2600.net/aspDisplayPicture...EnduroFront.jpg By the way I just bought 8 boxed Taiwan carts that look identical to these from a woman in the UK. The carts and boxes are identical. The games were: superman football motocross astra war cobra 104 space robot air wolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariKari Posted November 26, 2001 Share Posted November 26, 2001 While in Australia I managed to find several copies of "CRACKER PET": Crack Pots with the Activision in-game logo removed. The label is actually a pretty cool dragon sticker. End label is standard white block on black face. The quality of the cart looks similar to the scans posted here. I'm assuming it is from somewhere in Asia originally, because I found them with some 2600 clone systems from Taiwan (?maybe?). I'll post scans of these once I get back to Chicago for X-mas...Cool name regardless... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 26, 2001 Author Share Posted November 26, 2001 Cosmic Joke - Got the Boxing, we'll be adding that tonight. I already received Spider, so I don't need that one any more. Joel - Thanks, we will add Donkey Kong and Enduro. If you get a chance to scan any others on the list, that would be great. AtariKari - I've seen Cracker Pet before, but I don't know what company it came from. A box would help, it's almost impossible to tell with loose carts in that style because there were so many pirates. Here is our list online: Taiwanese Pirates So it seems this style was sold in the UK and in North America. We'll be dumping some of the carts we have online to see what video format they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted November 27, 2001 Share Posted November 27, 2001 I think these are the carts known variously as "Cooper Black" (for the cart label font), "Zellers" (for the store they're sold at; maybe? -- are there other styles? am I wrong?) and "Taiwan B" (IIRC) in the Digital Press Collectors Guide. I'm not positive about all this though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 27, 2001 Author Share Posted November 27, 2001 These Taiwan carts do indeed use the Cooper Black font on the end labels. However, they're totally different from the Zellers carts which use a non-serif font and have different packaging (and different titles as well). The cart cases are also different between these and Zellers. So, it might be accurate to call them Cooper Black, but there may be other pirate carts that use Cooper Black with totally different packaging (and maybe a different origin) so I don't know if that's a good solution. The only thing we know is they were made in Taiwan and sold in minor stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Monkey Posted November 27, 2001 Share Posted November 27, 2001 Here is another: Space Tunnel. In 14 years of collecting I've only ever come across 3 of these "Cooper Black's" in the wild here in Canada...and they were all together. This makes me think they may not have been sold here. I've emailed a larger bmp to the editor addy. Space Tunnel [ 11-26-2001: Message edited by: Lost Monkey ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 27, 2001 Author Share Posted November 27, 2001 Thanks, got the scan. However, I don't think we're going to add it to this group yet until we can confirm it with the box. I suspect that this cartridge style was used by more than one pirate manufacturer. Anyone have a box pic to cofirm this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Monkey Posted November 27, 2001 Share Posted November 27, 2001 I do...its on the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted November 27, 2001 Author Share Posted November 27, 2001 Okay, got the pic. Consider it confirmed, it will be added to the existing titles. This has become quite an extensive list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Monkey Posted November 27, 2001 Share Posted November 27, 2001 Just found another...ET Go Home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel D. Park Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 Alex, here is a scan for Bobby is Going Home. http://www.atari2600.net/aspDisplayPicture...nBobbyFront.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapdash Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 Ah, whoops, I got Zellers & "Cooper Black"s mixed up... Guess the next question is, does anybody have "Cooper Black" style carts in a different type of box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atarinvader Posted November 28, 2001 Share Posted November 28, 2001 Ive got Tom Boy and Space Robot. Tom Boy is a pitfall! copy, yet has slightly different graphics and Space Robot seems abit like missle command. Alex I'm have trouble with my email and i'll get the scans to you tomorow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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