mvigor Posted December 28, 2001 Share Posted December 28, 2001 Okay. I want to learn to make myself an Atari cartridge. I'll start with something relatively easy, a simple copy of a 4K single game cart. I want to put together a list of what I'll need. Here is what I have thought of so far: 1. A rom dumper 2. An old PC for dumping (my computer is a Mac.) 3. Software for rom dumping that will run in DOS 4. A rom burner 5. EPROMS (4K to start with) 6. An old chip-based cart to desolder for its PCB. 7. Soldering/desoldering tools and supplies. 8. Software that works with my rom burner that will run in DOS. 9. A hex inverter, 74LSO4 (right?) 10. Plans for making a cart that I got from Hozer's Randy several years ago. So far all I have together is #7, 9 and 10. I don't remember my source for the hex inverters either, so when I'm out of the three or four that I have I'll need to find a new place to get those. So I'll get a Pentium 90 laptop from ebay. That's easy enough. But what am I looking for in a rom dumper and rom burner? I'd like to buy them rather than make my own at this point. I'm really a novice solderer, but practicing when I get a chance. Any advice, sources, cautions, etc. would be greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Slocum Posted December 28, 2001 Share Posted December 28, 2001 I use a Needham's EMP-10 EPROM burner (about $200) which uses DOS software. I have heard there are cheaper ones, but I really like mine. Every EPROM burner I've ever seen will also read PROMs. But you can get the ROM image for just about any Atari game ever made on the web. I get my EPROMs from BG Micro. Needham's BG Micro -Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvigor Posted December 28, 2001 Author Share Posted December 28, 2001 Thank you for those links. I have requested catalogs and I'm also checking out ebay for used supplies similar to those recommended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximebeauvais Posted December 28, 2001 Share Posted December 28, 2001 check this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?V...indexURL=0&rd=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvigor Posted December 29, 2001 Author Share Posted December 29, 2001 Thank you - I bid on that auction. Is it your auction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassidy Nolen Posted December 29, 2001 Share Posted December 29, 2001 Looking over what they have there, it seems you could assemble this kit yourself. My question is "what exactly do you do with the hex inverters?". I can solder anything, but I have no clue what to do with the chip. I assume the EPROM lines up with the holes on the cart PCB, so where do you solder in the hex inverter? What does it do? Thanks for the info. I am/was planning on producing a few of the ones I have been unable to find (protos, never released, etc). That Pocket Programmer is also available from the website of the company that makes it. I do not have it off the top of my head, but I found it once on Google. Chips should be available from a computer supply warehouse. Cassidy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Cafeman Posted December 29, 2001 Share Posted December 29, 2001 Question -- Hozer's homebrews for 2600. Are they really Eproms, on a custom board, inserted into the plastic case from some common game like Pac-Man? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Gill Posted December 30, 2001 Share Posted December 30, 2001 Cassidy, Here's how the hex inverter is wired in an Atari pcb to 2732 eprom conversion. http://www.zutco.com/atari/Board.jpg It's a crude picture, but that's the minimum required to make it work. Cafeman, You got it! Hozer's games are Eproms on a nice custom board using an old Atari case. -Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassidy Nolen Posted December 30, 2001 Share Posted December 30, 2001 Thanks Cafeman, I am assuming the 2732 is the hex inverter part number. Can I get that at a Radio Shack, or am I doomed to comb the internet for them? Again, I really appreciate it. Hoping to get a burner setup by the end of January. Cassidy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassidy Nolen Posted December 30, 2001 Share Posted December 30, 2001 OOPS! Two big "Duh's!" First, the 2732 is the eprom number, Second, but more important, thanks to Chuck (not that Cafeman isn't a good guy). Thought I should give credit where it is due. Cassidy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Slocum Posted December 30, 2001 Share Posted December 30, 2001 If you can get 2532's, you don't have to cut any traces. I believe Randy's instruction sheet tells how to use a 2532. Every pin on a 2532 matches that of a standard Atari chip except that the CE needs to be inverted. -Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Gill Posted December 30, 2001 Share Posted December 30, 2001 Paul, You are absolutely right,we are all DEVO. I've just always used the 2732 because they are easier to find and my antique eprom burner doesn't support the 2532. -Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsoper Posted December 31, 2001 Share Posted December 31, 2001 Order a cart from Hozer, open it up to study it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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