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#1 FND OFFLINE  

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Posted Tue May 31, 2005 8:01 PM

T-10 - TRON Enduro
T-09 - TRON Pitfall
T-08 - TRON Megamania
T-07 - K-TEL Vulture Attack
T-06 - K-TEL Spider Maze
T-05 - FUNVISION Spider Monster/K-TEL Vulture Attack
T-04 - FUNVISION Time Warp/K-TEL Vulture Attack
T-03 - FUNVISION Space Monster
T-02 - ULTRAVISION Condor Attack
T-01 - CHINESE Condor Attack

Still waiting to find the funny blue one


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Posted Wed Jun 1, 2005 4:15 AM

This really is an impressive sight!
My compliments.

FND, I have some questions:

What exactly does this mean:

T-05 - FUNVISION Spider Monster/K-TEL Vulture Attack
T-04 - FUNVISION Time Warp/K-TEL Vulture Attack

Isn't Funvision's Spider Monster the same game as K-Tel's Spider Maze?
Isn't Funvision's Space Monster the same game as K-Tel's Vulture Attack?
What game is Funvision's Time Warp?
Which ones are PAL and which ones are NTSC?
Can you please show me some game screenshots of your Funvision and K-Tel games?

Thanks!

I hope you'll find that blue one.
It really belongs there.

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Posted Wed Jun 1, 2005 9:50 AM

This really is an impressive sight!
My compliments.

FND, I have some questions:

What exactly does this mean:

T-05 - FUNVISION Spider Monster/K-TEL Vulture Attack
T-04 - FUNVISION Time Warp/K-TEL Vulture Attack

Isn't Funvision's Spider Monster the same game as K-Tel's Spider Maze?
Isn't Funvision's Space Monster the same game as K-Tel's Vulture Attack?
What game is Funvision's Time Warp?
Which ones are PAL and which ones are NTSC?
Can you please show me some game screenshots of your Funvision and K-Tel games?

Thanks!

I hope you'll find that blue one.
It really belongs there.

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Yes the Funvision Spider Monster is K-Tel's Spider Maze, the the other two
Time Warp and Space Monster are both K-Tel Vulture Attack games
with only little thin type name labels stuck over the K-tel name and titles
(basically K-Tel Vulture Attack labels with little stickers stuck on to hide the
old company name and game title) FunVision and K-Tel I am sure were the
same company or at least very closely related as all K-Tel games have Funvision
branded cases (name molded in side of case I believe the boards also the name) I
also believe Ultravision has the same and are also somehow related to the other two.

I havent tested these games in awhile but I believe onlu the games I listed as
funvision are PAL the rest are NTSC

Screen shots can be seen here on AA for the Condor Attack, Vulture Attack and
Spider Maze. I will post some screen shots of the Tron games here in the next
few days

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Posted Wed Jun 1, 2005 10:35 AM

Time Warp and Space Monster are both K-Tel Vulture Attack games with only little thin type name labels stuck over the K-tel name and titles (basically K-Tel Vulture Attack labels with little stickers stuck on to hide the old company name and game title)

So - please correct me if I'm wrong - Time Warp from Funvision is this (PAL) game:
http://www.atariage....wareLabelID=761
in a K-Tel Vulture Attack (NTSC) cartridge?
If it is, does it have the Funvision logo on screen?

And Space Monster from Funvision is this (PAL) game:
http://www.atariage....wareLabelID=767
in a K-Tel Vulture Attack (NTSC) cartridge?
If it is, does it have the Funvision logo on screen?

Screen shots can be seen here on AA for the Condor Attack, Vulture Attack and Spider Maze.

The problem is that AA doesn't have any Funvision screenshots and I really would like to know if the Funvision logo is on screen.

Sorry to bother you with such specific questions, but it really helps me to solve the "Funvision puzzle" (by far the hardest to crack).
Thanks!

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Edited by Rom Hunter, Sun Jun 5, 2005 10:12 AM.


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Posted Wed Jun 1, 2005 1:02 PM

Oh, OK I see what you are looking for. I will get my 2600 out and take pictures of
the Title screens for you. Probably get it done tonight or at least within the next couple
days

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Posted Wed Jun 1, 2005 3:27 PM

That would be great, FND.
I really appreciate this.

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Posted Wed Jun 1, 2005 3:44 PM

Wow Very impressive.
Any hint as too how much $ you have tied up in these carts?
Was it a choice between a 2005 Convertable Mustang or this lot??
Seems to me I've seen some of these go for thousands, is that right??

Good stuff

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Posted Wed Jun 1, 2005 4:13 PM

T-10 - TRON Enduro
T-09 - TRON Pitfall
T-08 - TRON Megamania
T-07 - K-TEL Vulture Attack
T-06 - K-TEL Spider Maze
T-05 - FUNVISION Spider Monster/K-TEL Vulture Attack
T-04 - FUNVISION Time Warp/K-TEL Vulture Attack
T-03 - FUNVISION Space Monster
T-02 - ULTRAVISION Condor Attack
T-01 - CHINESE Condor Attack

Still waiting to find the funny blue one


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What a collection!! It makes me sick to think that I could have bought some of these games as a kid at a drug store in Detroit called Cunningham's, they carried all things K-Tel in there store, but those games looked so bad that I did not want to spend the money.


:-o :woozy: :woozy:

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Posted Wed Jun 1, 2005 4:14 PM

PS. I think I've bought some Atari games from you, off of Ebay.

:ponder: :cool: :cool:

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Posted Wed Jun 1, 2005 7:25 PM

Wow Very impressive.
Any hint as too how much $ you have tied up in these carts?


exactly 902.24 which includes the cost of shipping, the most expensive parts
were the K-Tel Vulture Attack and Spider Maze Boxes

Seems to me I've seen some of these go for thousands, is that right??


If any were a light shade of blue then maybe, but the carts here are more in the 100 to 200 range.

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Posted Wed Jun 1, 2005 7:34 PM

  What a collection!!  It makes me sick to think that I could have bought some of these games as a kid at a drug store in Detroit called Cunningham's, they carried all things K-Tel in there store, but those games looked so bad that I did not want to spend the money.


I agree if it were not for the cool T-Handle case I doubt many would want them even
today.

Yes, I am pritty sure we have done some ebay but cant put my finger on exactly what
it was

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Posted Wed Jun 1, 2005 7:40 PM

Oh I forgot to add this picture in case some missed my other post

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Posted Wed Jun 1, 2005 7:52 PM

Dang that is nice! Good work.

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Posted Thu Jun 2, 2005 1:30 AM

Time Warp and Space Monster are both K-Tel Vulture Attack games with only little thin type name labels stuck over the K-tel name and titles (basically K-Tel Vulture Attack labels with little stickers stuck on to hide the old company name and game title)

So - please correct me if I'm wrong - Time Warp from Funvision is this (PAL) game:
http://www.atariage....wareLabelID=761
in an old K-Tel Vulture Attack (NTSC) cartridge?
If it is, does it have the Funvision logo on screen?


OK here are the screen shoots but be advised these are PAL format games and I
don't have a compatible system so the screen shoots are pretty screwy but the
Funvision name is visible

I included the three different games on the demo and one screen shot with the
funvision name, the funvision only shows up for a split second after you die
so it took some time to finaly capture the shot

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And Space Monster from Funvision is this (PAL) game:
http://www.atariage....wareLabelID=767
in an old K-Tel Vulture Attack (NTSC) cartridge?
If it is, does it have the Funvision logo on screen?


Again these are PAL format so the screen shoots are screwy

on this game the name FUNVISION is at the top left side and barley visible as I believe it should really be at the bottom anyway I did the best I could to get a picture
of it

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Posted Thu Jun 2, 2005 3:23 AM

FND, I want to thank you!
This is exactly what I wanted to know.
Thanks again!

BTW: here's another version of Funvision's Space Monster:

Space_Monster__Funvision_.gif

And another version:

post_94_1068812103_thumb.jpg

Funny indeed...

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Edited by Rom Hunter, Thu Jun 2, 2005 7:09 AM.


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Posted Thu Jun 2, 2005 3:53 AM

This leaves me with a new question:

Do PAL T-handle cartridges from K-Tel actually exist?
(I mean with the K-Tel name on it and not with a Funvision label stuck over it)

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Edited by Rom Hunter, Thu Jun 2, 2005 7:07 AM.


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Posted Thu Jun 2, 2005 8:54 AM

FunVision and K-Tel I am sure were the same company or at least very closely related as all K-Tel games have Funvision branded cases (name molded in side of case I believe the boards also the name).
I also believe Ultravision has the same and are also somehow related to the other two.

Right you are.
Here's a K-Tel label stuck over an Ultravision label:

Vulture_Attack_label_on_Condor_Attack.jpg

And here are two Funvision V-case style Ultravision games and a Funvision T-handle Condor Attack:

Karate_V_shaped.jpg Condor_Attack_V_shaped.jpg Condor_Attack_from_Funvision.jpg
BTW: notice that the (originally T-handle) labels are too big for the V-grooved cartridges.

And don't forget Goliath too.
Their two T-handles are: Condor Attack (#4) and Spider Kong (#6):

Condor_Attack_T_handle.jpg Spider_Kong_T_handle.jpg

And one look at their box is enough to see the link:

Goliath:
Spider_Kong_Box.jpg
BTW: Notice the mention of the Ultravision console on the box.

Funvision:
Spider_Monster_Box.jpg

K-Tel:
Spider_Maze_Box.jpg

They are all connected...

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Edited by Rom Hunter, Mon Sep 12, 2005 8:50 AM.


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Posted Thu Jun 2, 2005 10:12 AM

Dude, those are some ultra-rare games!

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Posted Thu Jun 2, 2005 12:24 PM

Also since the funvision Time warp I have is also the same game as the Zellers version
they are also connected to the others.

So let see Ultravision, K-Tel, Funvision, Zellers, AND Goliath have have the same art
work, cases and basicly the same games (possibly only company name additions)

Something just struck me I don't think I have ever seen any of these games with
the the name on the screen besides funvision, as all my other games don't have
the company name displayed. its quite possible the main top player of these games
was Funvision and all the others came from there

Begining to look even more feasable that there is a connection at the very top of
these companys and all were getting cases, label art and even rom images from the
same place.

Oh by the way that Spider Maze box is the one in my collection, has the same sticker
with 148 on it

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Posted Thu Jun 2, 2005 12:29 PM

Notice the screen shot here at AA for the K-TEL Spider Maze says FUNVISION
on the screen

http://www.atariage....wareLabelID=768

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Posted Thu Jun 2, 2005 2:04 PM

  Oh by the way that Spider Maze box is the one in my collection, has the same sticker
with 148 on it

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My Vulture Attack box has a similar sticker, I'll post it tonight.

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Posted Fri Jun 3, 2005 12:59 PM

Also since the funvision Time warp I have is also the same game as the Zellers version.
They are also connected to the others.

So let see Ultravision, K-Tel, Funvision, Zellers, AND Goliath have have the same art work, cases and basicly the same games (possibly only company name additions).

Something just struck me I don't think I have ever seen any of these games with the name on the screen besides funvision, as all my other games don't have the company name displayed. its quite possible the main top player of these games was Funvision and all the others came from there.

Beginning to look even more feasable that there is a connection at the very top of these companys and all were getting cases, label art and even rom images from the same place.

Goliath did also put its name on the screen:

Astro Attack (Goliath - Hot Shot)
Astro_Attack__Goliath___Hot_Shot_.gif

Condor Attack (Goliath)
Condor_Attack__Goliath_.gif

Spider Kong (Goliath)
Spider_Kong__Goliath_.gif

And here's Ocean City Defender from Zellers (with the Funvision logo!):

Ocean City Defender (Zellers)
Ocean_City_Defender__Zellers_.gif
Take a look at the symbol before the Funvision name.
It's the same as the one before the Goliath name.

Spirantho has a T-handle with a Goliath title and number on the label:

Spider Kong
Spider_Kong_Proto__PAL__with_Funvision_on_screen.jpg

The game is Spider Kong (PAL) with the Funvision (!) logo on screen, which is quite unique, because the Goliath T-handle Spider Kong with the official label (see post #17) has the Goliath logo on screen.
This suggests that Funvision came before Goliath.

Other Goliath games like Sea Monster and Phantom Tank carry the Puzzy logo on screen.
Eventually it all leads to Bit Corp, I'm afraid.

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Edited by Rom Hunter, Fri Jun 3, 2005 3:11 PM.


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Posted Fri Jun 3, 2005 4:21 PM

This all seems to run pretty deep and it obvious Rom Hunter has been following this
for quite sometime so I accept Bit Corp is most likey at the top of the pile, good
work and thanks for the pictures and info.

BTW looks near impossible to get all the different T handle carts that I was hoping to
finish one day :(

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Posted Sat Jun 4, 2005 10:38 AM

I'm sure you'll be the proud owner of all of them someday, FND (including the Blue One).

BTW:
It's thanks to pictures like the one of your collection that information can be collected in the first place.
And your screenshots really helped me to erase some question marks about Funvision (one of the most mysterious companies in the history of the A2600).

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Edited by Rom Hunter, Thu Aug 4, 2005 2:29 AM.


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Posted Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:11 AM

Also since the funvision Time warp I have is also the same game as the Zellers version.
They are also connected to the others.

So let see Ultravision, K-Tel, Funvision, Zellers, AND Goliath have have the same art work, cases and basicly the same games (possibly only company name additions).

Something just struck me I don't think I have ever seen any of these games with the name on the screen besides funvision, as all my other games don't have the company name displayed. its quite possible the main top player of these games was Funvision and all the others came from there.

Beginning to look even more feasable that there is a connection at the very top of these companys and all were getting cases, label art and even rom images from the same place.

Goliath did also put its name on the screen:

Astro Attack (Goliath - Hot Shot)
Astro_Attack__Goliath___Hot_Shot_.gif

Condor Attack (Goliath)
Condor_Attack__Goliath_.gif

Spider Kong (Goliath)
Spider_Kong__Goliath_.gif

And here's Ocean City Defender from Zellers (with the Funvision logo!):

Ocean City Defender (Zellers)
Ocean_City_Defender__Zellers_.gif
Take a look at the symbol before the Funvision name.
It's the same as the one before the Goliath name.

Spirantho has a T-handle with a Goliath title and number on the label:

Spider Kong
Spider_Kong_Proto__PAL__with_Funvision_on_screen.jpg

The game is Spider Kong (PAL) with the Funvision (!) logo on screen, which is quite unique, because the Goliath T-handle Spider Kong with the official label (see post #17) has the Goliath logo on screen.
This suggests that Funvision came before Goliath.

Other Goliath games like Sea Monster and Phantom Tank carry the Puzzy logo on screen.
Eventually it all leads to Bit Corp, I'm afraid.

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My version of the Goliath T-handle Spider Kong (with the #6 label of post #17) also shows Funvision on the screen, so if someone has a version that shows the goliath label there are definitively two versions.




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