Compiling lists of Atari, Corp. (re-release) label variants

[Christophero Sly]

Also, do you have the following scans for me:

 

NTSC Krull 1986 (controller info present)

Had this one in my collection. Here's a better scan than the one I gave you previously.

[shining slade]

Sly, sent you a PM.

[Christophero Sly]

Rom,

 

These are the labels I'm still not sure about.

 

87 Millipede--Does this exist as PAL? Should I add this to my list?

http://www.atarimania.com/zoom_frame.php?T...amp;NUM_IMAGE=0

 

88 PAL Ms. Pac-Man (No controller, CX Yes). Please let me know as soon as you confirm this one.

http://www.atarimania.com/zoom_frame.php?T...amp;NUM_IMAGE=0

 

And, PAL Mario Bros. without CX and controller info. As I said before, the only reference I have for this is the PAL database. Do you think I should remove it from the list?

[staberinde]

Rom,

 

These are the labels I'm still not sure about.

 

87 Millipede--Does this exist as PAL? Should I add this to my list?

http://www.atarimania.com/zoom_frame.php?T...amp;NUM_IMAGE=0

 

88 PAL Ms. Pac-Man (No controller, CX Yes). Please let me know as soon as you confirm this one.

http://www.atarimania.com/zoom_frame.php?T...amp;NUM_IMAGE=0

 

And, PAL Mario Bros. without CX and controller info. As I said before, the only reference I have for this is the PAL database. Do you think I should remove it from the list?

 

88 PAL Ms. Pac-Man (No controller, CX Yes).

-> I have this one, it has a P sticker on back and shows exactly the same colors as a PAL variant on my PAL TV, so yes, this is PAL

 

PAL Mario Bros. without CX and controller info.

-> You can find two scans of those on my site, both are PAL (sticker on back and correct colors).

[Rom Hunter]

Everything added and updated, except for Mario Bros.

 

Many thanks, guys!

 

I will post Staberinde my final Gray Label format question list tomorrow.

 

 

Sly,

 

That 1987 Millipede is PAL too.

 

frogger2 confirmed this with a scan (P sticker on back).

 

Edited December 3, 2007 by Rom Hunter

[Christophero Sly]

I have posted an update to the gray label list. Almost every entry now has a link to a scan on Atarimania. This was the most complicated and confusing update yet, so a few mistakes may have crept in. Please let me know if you spot any. Also, if you have any suggestions for improving the list, please let me know. I'm still working to update the black and red lists in similar fashion.

 

Thank you to everyone who helped out with this update. Your contributions are very much appreciated.

 

Special thanks go out to Rom Hunter for his invaluable assistance.

[staberinde]

Well, I guess most of you guys only collect NTSC, thus having the list organized in an NTSC a PAL part makes sense.

 

But I personally don't really care too much about the label variation being PAL or NTSC, but would prefer to have the list organised by Game and Variation, and then have a specific column (perhaps as a new second column) for the format (like: NTSC, PAL, both).

 

This would make it much easier to see whether some specific variation existis in some specific format, which is somewhat difficult within the current format.

 

Off course I can do that for myself, but perhaps others would like this kind of re-organisation too??

[Rom Hunter]

IMO Sly's lists work just fine.

 

It's quite easy to make a mistake if both PAL and NTSC variations are listed close together.

 

 

Excellent work, Sly!

 

BTW, these two carts are NTSC:

 

As can be seen here (both the first cart scan):

http://www.atarimania.com/detail_soft.php?...VERSION_ID=7288

http://www.atarimania.com/detail_soft.php?...VERSION_ID=7391

 

But the format of these two is still uncertain:

 

Any idea?

 

Edited January 3, 2008 by Rom Hunter

[froggger2]

The MotoRodeo appears to be the same as my PAL version that has a P on the back.

 

 

I bought this MotoRodeo from someone in Europe. This Pal version rolls on my 1985 vintage television while the NTSC Hong Kong version of MotoRodeo I bought from Venezuela does not.

[Rom Hunter]

Thanks.

 

Found the scan here:

http://images.google.nl/imgres?imgurl=http...l%3Dnl%26sa%3DN

 

It's Pitfall Harry's site.

 

So NTSC?

 

Edited January 3, 2008 by Rom Hunter

[Christophero Sly]

Well, I guess most of you guys only collect NTSC, thus having the list organized in an NTSC a PAL part makes sense.

 

But I personally don't really care too much about the label variation being PAL or NTSC, but would prefer to have the list organised by Game and Variation, and then have a specific column (perhaps as a new second column) for the format (like: NTSC, PAL, both).

 

This would make it much easier to see whether some specific variation existis in some specific format, which is somewhat difficult within the current format.

 

Off course I can do that for myself, but perhaps others would like this kind of re-organisation too??

That would be a more logical way to organize the lists. However, I think there is a strong tradition for separating these sorts of lists and databases on the basis of TV format. Most collectors are accustomed to and, probably, prefer it that way. Although I believe everyone could get used to a mixed format, I don't think the gains in logic it offers would offset the potential confusion or break with tradition.

 

BTW, these two carts are NTSC:

I got that Ms. Pac-Man photo from someone in the U.K. (unfortunately, he doesn't post here anymore), so I wouldn't be surprised if that label turns out, in fact, to have a PAL counterpart.

 

But the format of these two is still uncertain:

 

Any idea?

I got the Centipede photo from the same person in the U.K., so I'm leaning towards PAL on that one. Although my suspicion is that some form of an '86 Centipede exists in both PAL and NTSC.

 

Thanks.

 

Found the scan here:

http://images.google.nl/imgres?imgurl=http...l%3Dnl%26sa%3DN

 

It's Pitfall Harry's site.

 

So NTSC?

Nice detective work. Very interesting. I don't think I can accept this one as having an NTSC counterpart just yet, but that's an intriguing discovery. Maybe if folks would open some of these Venezuelan copies, we could get an answer.

 

Still chugging away with the updates...

Edited January 5, 2008 by Christophero Sly

[Rom Hunter]

Thanks, Sly.

 

I put the Gray Centipede 1986 cart in our database now (together with a format note), because we didn't have a 1986 Centipede in our database at all:

http://www.atarimania.com/detail_soft.php?...ERSION_ID=20477

 

Edited January 5, 2008 by Rom Hunter

[Rom Hunter]

Sly,

 

I went through your Black Label list.

 

These scans are still missing in our database:

 

NTSC

Berzerk 1985 - Correct

Bowling 1986 - Error (Paddle)

Brain Games 1986 - Black Tape

Concentration 1986 - Black Tape

Missile Command 1985 - Correct

Street Racer 1986 - Correct

 

PAL

Adventure 1986 (does this one really exist?)

Dodge 'Em 1986 - Black Tape

Pele's Soccer 1987 - Error (Instructions)

Pele's Soccer 1988 - Error (Instructions)

 

Also, if you own any scans of better quality, please let me know.

 

I would very much like to refresh the shitty ones.

 

Any questions, corrections or additions are more than welcome.

 

Edited January 6, 2008 by Rom Hunter

[Christophero Sly]

Sly,

 

I went through your Black Label list.

These scans are still missing in our database:

I was just about to send you a PM about all these (and a few more ).

 

NTSC

Berzerk 1985 - Correct

Bowling 1986 - Error (Paddle)

Brain Games 1986 - Black Tape

Concentration 1986 - Black Tape

Missile Command 1985 - Correct

Street Racer 1986 - Correct

Bowling, Concentration, and Street Racer are found only on Atariguide.

 

Here are Berzerk, Brain Games, and Missile Command (poor photo, so you may not want to use it).

PAL

Adventure 1986 (does this one really exist?)

Dodge 'Em 1986 - Black Tape

Pele's Soccer 1987 - Error (Instructions)

Pele's Soccer 1988 - Error (Instructions)

Adventure exists. BSA Starfire was selling it in the marketplace some time back. I could only get the photo below.

 

Black Tape Dodge 'Em appears in the PAL database.

 

I have PAL 87 Pele's. I'll scan it ASAP.

 

88 Pele's may not be verified. It's probable that this entry on my list is in error.

 

 

I'll PM you the rest of what is on my mind.

[Rom Hunter]

Please help me find better scans of the following carts:

 

Adventure and Dodge 'Em 1986 PAL

 

Missile Command 1985 NTSC

 

RealSports Volleyball 1983 PAL

 

1988 PAL Dig Dug, Kangaroo, Ms. PAc-Man, Solaris, Sprint Master

 

Would be great to receive these.

 

Edited July 21, 2008 by Rom Hunter

[Christophero Sly]

Really hope one of us here got this one.

 

Street Racer

 

At least that confirms its existence as NTSC.

[Rom Hunter]

Is that the 1986 version?

 

Edited November 30, 2008 by Rom Hunter

[Christophero Sly]

Is that the 1986 version?

 

I would guess so, and I'm just guessing that it's NTSC too, as it's in a US auction, but it still could be the already known PAL label. Unless someone comes forward to confirm it, it's not a certainty.

Edited November 30, 2008 by Christophero Sly

[jamvan1000]

I have a NTSC 1986 Yars Revenge without Label, Program & Audiovisual ©.

[Philflound]

You mean version g on this page? You should check out my site if you're into variations. Someone dug this from almost 4 years ago.

 

http://www.videogamevariations.com/AtariCompanies/AtariGames/YarsRevenge/yars_revenge_cartridges.htm

 

Phil

[jamvan1000]

thanks phil

[Philflound]

Sly, Rom Hunter, and Staberinde have helped me alot with variations over the past few years. I'm now working on finishing up the 3rd party items along with adding the manuals. Since I'm in the middle of M Network, that will be the first company I list the manuals. I actually have the majority of the manuals in stock or in my collection, so I just have to scan and upload. It's hard work.

 

Phil