sku_u Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I know this is almost identical to Solaris, but I was wondering if the bin file has been dumped for this one and if so if someone could post it to this thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 AFAIK this ROM has never been dumped. You can recognize it by the the copyright date (1984, instead of 1986) and the programmers name (Solaris, instead of Doug Neubauer) on the title screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 (edited) Not been dumped? //looks at his Last Starfighter proto sitting about Hmmm... Then again, where did Tempest get the screenshots on his page for it, if not from an emulator? Edited August 4, 2005 by MayhemUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 (edited) I don't know. Maybe he made a ROM dump of CPUWIZ' proto and deleted the .bin? Edited August 4, 2005 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted August 4, 2005 Author Share Posted August 4, 2005 If it hasn't been dumped, could someone dump it? @Mayhem--you can supposedly do screen captures through a TV as well. I don't now how that is done and I do not know if this is how Tempest grabs his screenshots, but they supposedly are better quality than an emulator through this method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalH Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 No screenshot taken from an actual console will ever be pixel-perfect like that of an emulator. "Better quality", perhaps if you're referring to it being the actual hardware, but emulator output will always look cleaner and sharper, even with a console that can do RGB. Since the best that the 2600 can do is S-Video, you will always have a small bit of chroma bleeding. Luckily, you won't have any chroma crawl or rainbow artifacts due to cross-bleed between the chroma and luma. It's done by simply taking a good quality video capture card that can handle composite or S-Video input, and capturing screenshots from that. However, since the 2600 is noninterlaced in virtually all instances (yes, I know, the 2600 can do interlace), then the capture card will weave each pair of two 2600 frames together, possibly causing "mice teeth" on moving objects. This is fixable by using something like Photoshop's Deinterlace filter set to duplication and not interpolation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I dumped it and gave it to Tempest a long time ago. I'll see if I can find it tonight, if so, I'll post it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I dumped it and gave it to Tempest a long time ago. I'll see if I can find it tonight, if so, I'll post it. 904505[/snapback] My bad, I thought this one was out there already. I'll see if I can post it tonight. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I had a check now I'm home and I don't have the ROM for it so looking forward to that. I presume all lab loaners of the game will be the same? Or maybe not. No idea. No way to dump mine out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XZX Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 http://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/tlsf/tlsf.htm The game at least exists. I looked there and you can find that the prototype did become Solaris. As for that dumped rom, if it is it is not on AtariAge or Edge Emulation. I am going to do a "groupsearch" through Dogpile.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XZX Posted August 4, 2005 Share Posted August 4, 2005 I did not find it. I am going to do "groupsearches" on mamma.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted August 4, 2005 Author Share Posted August 4, 2005 I did not find it. I am going to do "groupsearches" on mamma.com. 904663[/snapback] Don't waste your time. Tempest or CPUWIZ are going to post it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 (edited) I did not find it. I am going to do "groupsearches" on mamma.com. 904663[/snapback] It's not on the net (yet). Trust me, I would know. Edited August 5, 2005 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted August 6, 2005 Share Posted August 6, 2005 Here you go guys... LASTSTRF.ZIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sku_u Posted August 7, 2005 Author Share Posted August 7, 2005 Thanks r! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 CloneSpy: (1/3) 0 1 2 0 LASTSTRF·························································· · 65 9 1 Solaris (1986) (Atari)············································ = · 10 2 Radar Lock (1989) (Atari)········································· = = · Quite different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Great! Thanks, CPUWIZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mos6507 Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Great!Thanks, CPUWIZ. 906074[/snapback] I'm surprised that this is 16K. I wonder how much of the ROM space is actually used. Doug Neubauer told me that between the time he flirted with Atari Inc. and he delivered the final version of Solaris to Atari Corp that the ROM size got bigger and he added more levels and features. So I inferred that the original game he was offering Atari Inc. was only 8K. But maybe it was 16K with a lot of unused space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 So I inferred that the original game he was offering Atari Inc. was only 8K. But maybe it was 16K with a lot of unused space. Both, Solaris and The Last Starfighter, zip to ~12.5k. So they are definitely 16k games with (almost) all of the 16k utilized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted August 8, 2005 Share Posted August 8, 2005 Atari2600.com were selling the Last Star Fighter on their web site. I know as I bought a copy of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Atari2600.com were selling the Last Star Fighter on their web site. I know as I bought a copy of them. 906846[/snapback] Is it sim. to the A8 hacked version (i have several on A8 disk) I also have SR2, which is basically LSF without the loading screen, the screen where it shows the space ship going up and a scrolling msg that begins with 'greetings starfighter' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atariboy2600 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 If anyone wanted a label template of The Last Starfighter for the 2600 here's a label I made using an old VHS box image of the movie I have and use Atari fonts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitardude Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Wasn't that and Dune the games that Lucasfilm sued Atari for royalties even though they never got released? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnhood Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Fantastic. This is akin to discovering the Holy Grail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogstar_robot Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Fantastic. This is akin to discovering the Holy Grail. 968438[/snapback] No. This is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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