Albert Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 http://www.atariprotos.com/2600/software/p...etoftheapes.htmWhile researching his upcoming website AtariProtos.com, Matt Reichert (aka Tempest) made an interesting discovery: The prototype believed to have been Alligator People all these years is actually Planet of the Apes! And after reading his description of the game, along with the screenshots he's taken, we support his conclusion. You can download the binary here, and we encourage you to visit the AtariProtos.com Planet of the Apes page to read more about this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco(2) Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 Amazing discovery, Matt - very nice work! I hope that owner who according to rumor paid $3k+ for it isn't a big Alligator People fan Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Duke Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 Wow, looking at the pictures he had and all, I never noticed some of those things. Like the statue of Liberty at the end, I thought those were some wierd treasures or something, but looking at it, it is the statue of liberty, cool. I want to get that game from hozer and make a cool mock label or something. Pretty cool game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 Do you own it Marco? Who had it originally? Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybergoth Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 Hi there! Well, I interviewed John W.S. Marvin once, since he worked on Silicon Warrior and Lunar Outpost for Epyx. Here's another interview with him, where he's talking about Planet Of The Apes: John W.S. Marvin Greetings, Manuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 Yes, this is the interview I used to verify my suspicions. Very nice. Do you have John Marvin's e-mail address? I'd like to ask him a few questions about the game now that we know its his. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 Ok, I've just discovered that escaping from one of the pits will cost you one of your Escapes. Also, I don't think the difficulty switches do anything but I can't be 100% sure. Time for someone to dissasemble the code! Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybergoth Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Tempest: Yes, this is the interview I used to verify my suspicions. Very nice. Do you have John Marvin's e-mail address? I'd like to ask him a few questions about the game now that we know its his. Unfortunately, since then I changed Computer, OS and Browser twice, so I don't have it anymore. But IIRC I got his Email address back then from the guy who did the particular interview. You should ask him. He was very helpfull. And I'm sure John Marvin would be very happy to hear that his lost game was rediscovered. Besides, he's of course the only one who can do a 100% confirmation Greetings, Manuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyXB Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 Now I understand one think not. Why is this game found with an Alligator People sticker? And is there a game called Alligator People or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 Yes there is a game called Alligator People, John mentioned it in his interview (see my quote above). Planet of the Apes was just accidently put into an Alligator People proto case, probably becuase it was all they could find lying around. No one has found the Alligator People prototype, but its out there somewhere. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted March 24, 2002 Author Share Posted March 24, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Tempest: No one has found the Alligator People prototype, but its out there somewhere. Pretty amusing, one mystery goes away with a new one to take its place! I need to remove the ROM and screenshots from the Alligator People page since it's pretty obvious these games don't have any relationship to one another. ..Al [ 03-24-2002: Message edited by: Albert ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Oberhäuser Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 /em cheers at Tempest! Great research! Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 Looks like I'm taking a trip to Hozer! Maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarimastermarty Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 Awsome discovery!! but Pyramid there already is a mockup label. I saw it at CGE. Not sure who the guy is but he made the label. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snider-man Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 The label you're thinking about is a mock label Lee Krueger made when the game "didn't exist." IT is NOT an official label. However, it is very, very damn cool: I think a LOT of folks are gonna be getting this burned from Hozer ($11)and tossing this label on their new "Planet of the Apes" cart. Someone might want to let Lee know why his cart label gallery is suddenly getting all of these hits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted March 24, 2002 Author Share Posted March 24, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Atari master marty: Awsome discovery!! but Pyramid there already is a mockup label. I saw it at CGE. Not sure who the guy is but he made the label. That would be Lee Krueger's Planet of the Apes label. He has created a whole slew of labels for 2600 games, be sure to check them out. Here's a picture of Lee posing with some of these carts at last year's CGE. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybergoth Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Tempest: Umm ok maybe I'm missing it, but who did that interview? I can't seem to find a name anywhere. The guy running Cyberroach himself did it. Click the Home-button, there you'll find it. Greetings, Manuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco(2) Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Tempest: Do you own it Marco? Who had it originally? Tempest Nope, I don't have it. I missed the auction, I believe it was around '95 or so. I just heard about it a couple of years later. I know the current owner (he's American), but I'm not sure if he wants his name revealed. Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 Thats fine. But you should point him over here so he knows what he has. It probably just went up and value! Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s-kelly Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 The person who originally owned what was believed to be Alligator People is Marlin Bates. I don't believe he collects anymore though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jess Ragan Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 "Oh no, we were wrong! It was 'Apes' all along! Looks like they made a monkey out of uuuuus..." JR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adriana Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 If there's going to be a mock 'Planet of the Apes' label to slap onto a Hozer cartridge, it should be done in the 20th Century Fox label style, NOT Atari's. Authenticity, people! (I'm sort of a stickler for that.) Oh wait, I do graphic design, maybe I should make one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snider-man Posted March 24, 2002 Share Posted March 24, 2002 Actually, I always kinda hated 20th Cent. Fox labels. The end was always some microscopic copyright notice and not the cart name. It's a pain to tell 'em apart when stacked up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Atari Posted March 25, 2002 Share Posted March 25, 2002 "Get yer stinken' paws off my Atari cart you d*mn dirty ape!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted March 25, 2002 Share Posted March 25, 2002 quote: Originally posted by Jess Ragan: "Oh no, we were wrong! It was 'Apes' all along! Looks like they made a monkey out of uuuuus..." JR "I'm Troy McClure.. You may remember me from such Atari games as Save Mary a Beer, and Let's Rip The Spleen Out of That Guy..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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